Praying in Tongues

So you are saying that tongues and other gifts including knowledge and faith and love are not the inward work of the Holy spirit?

Edify:

G3618

οἰκοδομέω

oikodomeō

oy-kod-om-eh'-o

From the same as G3619; to be a house builder, that is, construct or (figuratively) confirm: - (be in) build (-er, -ing, up), edify, embolden.

One can be sad, depressed, worried about something, needing direction (just one example) and praying in Holy Spirit ministers.

There's never been any of you protestors that wanted to pray but couldn't find the words? Or ever thought that it would be so helpful if we could just have a conversation with the Father?

Holy Spirit is our helper in every way.

yes, it does, healing and miracles happen every day. God heals and saves and delivers people every day because HE Loves. You limit God and think you are Biblical in doing so. You have a secular humanist approach to your Biblical understanding. you look at the word of God to disprove God working today. As other Look at the Word of God and have faith HE still heals and delivers and saves. You attack what you do not know or what is not to your intellectual acceptance. That sir, is Pride.

That is never the work of tongues. Gifts are to edify others and this is the way of love because love is always about others and never self.

This i will tell you plainly, there's no one in the entire world is embolden to raise the dead physically. You don't need to show me how because anything would be falsehood.
And i know it is God who raises the dead but today He doesn't, not that He can't, know the times and seasons

God is not dead and the season of grace doesn't mean healings and miracles. Grace is of the new covenant/ the new covenant is of the kingdom of God and one feature about this kingdom is that it comes with NO OBSERVABLE SIGNS. No one can say "look those that are speaking meaningless words or these that are healing, or here it is or there it is.."

If we don't know what to say, the Lord still knows what we need before we ask him. That does not mean we don't ask, but we ask knowing that he cares for us and understands. At times before I would be crying and not fully understand why. I may be reading the bible or in prayer for example and I would start crying. Still in the moments if I don't fully understand why I am sad or emotional, the Lord knows and cares.

yes, it does, healing and miracles happen every day. God heals and saves and delivers people every day because HE Loves. You limit God and think you are Biblical in doing so. You have a secular humanist approach to your Biblical understanding. you look at the word of God to disprove God working today. As other Look at the Word of God and have faith HE still heals and delivers and saves. You attack what you do not know or what is not to your intellectual acceptance. That sir, is Pride.

I didn't say God doesn't or can not heal or save, i said gifts ceased in the 1st century and the men going around today thinking they are gifted are deceived.

Q. Are there men today who are gifted to the extent they have power to raise the dead physically?

You don't need to answer that because we can all see the answer is a big NO. Can we say that God has limited Himself? No. It is just the season for harvesting.

I don't care if you picked it up with or from. First off where does it say 1cor 12 thru 14 chapters that raising the dead is a gift? You do not know the context of 1cor 12 to 14 do you? NO one here has said the power to raise the dead is a gift. Only you.

raising the dead is an act of God period. If ones pray to God to bring back a person which happens all the time. But you make humanistic excuses for them. raising the dead is not part of the Charismata in 1cor 12 to 14.

If God raises the dead because someone is praying that is called an answer to prayer GOD did it and should be given full glory for it. I will attempt ask you a question .

man in hospital dies on table for 15 minutes doctors use shock treatment and he comes back to life . Did the doctors raise the dead or did God?

apparently you choose to be angry. I did not blame you for anything. I addressed the behavior you choose to display and you have hounded CS1 and you have hounded many others in the past, including me so I know what I am talking about

you had stopped it...but you are right back doing what is or should be, beneath you as you have called yourself a teacher

there is no way you can be happy with yourself so enjoy it

I see you avoid my question
if you do not wish to answer it or cannot just let me know please, thank you,

man in hospital dies on the table for 15 minutes doctors use shock treatment and he comes back to life. Did the doctors raise the dead or did God?

The kingdom of God within is the new birth. That's an inward work of Holy Spirit giving eternal life through the blood sacrifice of the Cross. There's a new boss in town. Lol No more under the dominion of the world, flesh, and Satan.

But, being baptized or whelmed of Holy Spirit does come with giftings and power.

I am not angry, i just did not let something go, to hold someone accountable,

remember what you do when you assume things, Or you point fingers,

But its ok, i am not the only one who sees this,

Once again, mods should be held to a higher standard, if he would have just answered my question like most people do (whether i agree with them or not is not the issue) non of this would have happened. But as usual, he assumes things which are not true, and out of these false assumption (i hate him and i am against certain gifts) we see the result

no one said it was tongues doing anything

you apparently have the gift of twisting what others post and it does not come from God

1Now about spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed. 2You know that when you were pagans, you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3Therefore I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

4There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. 5There are different ministries, but the same Lord. 6There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all men.

7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines. I Corinthians 12

the gifts are for the edification of believers within a body of believers or, as indicated many times in this thread, AND found in scripture, also for the PERSONAL edification of the believer

it is not love to deny that God gives these gifts through His Spirit

and it is not love to mock and continue to disrupt what was meant to be a productive and useful thread...but what else is new here, eh? love would include listening to others and putting them first since you mentioned love

Raising the dead is an act of God, which one in the following list is not an act of God; healing/ tongues/teaching/evangelism/ apostalship/ other miracles??

John 14:12Truly, truly, I tell you,whoever believes in Me will also do the works that Iam doing. He will do even greater things than these,because I am going to the Father.

Jesus raised the dead physically and as per the promise above, you should be doing more than just speaking meaningless words.

actually the Bible says TEACHERS are held to the highest standards

and you have called yourself a teacher more than once

oh the irony

whatever as you say

done with it really. listen. don't listen. not my problem. I handed the note over and it's yours to do with as you please

he raises the dead every time His Son is accepted and new life is given

I know that is not what you have in mind, but God can and does raise people up physically as well

to say otherwise, means you consider yourself omnipresent and in a manner of speaking, folks who deny deny deny with no proof are basically saying they are god and they will decide and tell everyone else they are wrong

of course, I should with you unwilling to answer my question.

"man in hospital dies on table for 15 minutes doctors use shock treatment and he comes back to life . Did the doctors raise the dead or did God?"

1. if the doctor brought him back the doctor has the power to raise the dead and you are ok with that because it is a doctor.
2. If you agree with that then God is not the only one who controls those who die and come back. man too is as long as they are a doctor and maybe they have the gift of raising the dead. I'm sure those of secular humanism swallow that much better than praying for one to come back to life.

the problem is God is the only one who gives life and or does raise the dead. Not the doctor. it does not matter if you are dead 5 minutes, 15, or four hours you are not coming back IF GOD does NOT allow it to be so. Those of secular humanism say well he was not dead more than 4 minutes, therefore, he could be brought back. really? that is not what the word of God says. men are more willing to give credit to doctors and for bringing a person back from the dead, then God.