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Would you be kind enough to answer the 6 questions below in CAPS? I'm most interested in the last POST RESURRECTION two.
When Jesus prays to the Father:
IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
When Jesus prays to the Father:
IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
Again, what is your point....are you trying to say that JESUS is not GOD.......and some of the scriptures you cite have no bearing on disproving or proving anything....HE disrobed himself of GLORY and took upon himself the form of a man....what is so hard about understanding 1 God manifested three ways.......
A MAN
MIND <----INTELLECT, INVISIBLE THE FATHER
BODY <----SEEN CHRIST
SPIRIT <----BREATH and or WORD HOLY SPIRIT
What is so difficult about that......JESUS is the PHYSICAL ICON of the INVISIBLE FATHER.....it is not difficult to grasp....
YOU asked questions....what is the POINT you are trying to prove?
A MAN
MIND <----INTELLECT, INVISIBLE THE FATHER
BODY <----SEEN CHRIST
SPIRIT <----BREATH and or WORD HOLY SPIRIT
What is so difficult about that......JESUS is the PHYSICAL ICON of the INVISIBLE FATHER.....it is not difficult to grasp....
YOU asked questions....what is the POINT you are trying to prove?
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Would you be kind enough to answer the 6 questions below in CAPS? I'm most interested in the last POST RESURRECTION two.
When Jesus prays to the Father:
IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
When Jesus prays to the Father:
IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
Would you be kind enough to answer the 6 questions below in CAPS? I'm most interested in the last POST RESURRECTION two.
When Jesus prays to the Father:
IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
When Jesus prays to the Father:
IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
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Would you be kind enough answer the six specific questions. I've asked, IN CAPS, below:
I'm especially interested in a reply to the last POST RESURRECTION two. Thx in advance...
When Jesus prays to the Father:
1) IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
2) DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
3) DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
4) IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
5) DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
6) DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
Would you be kind enough answer the six specific questions. I've asked, IN CAPS, below:
I'm especially interested in a reply to the last POST RESURRECTION two. Thx in advance...
When Jesus prays to the Father:
1) IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
2) DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
3) DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
4) IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
5) DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
6) DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
There is no Post 82664
Would you be kind enough answer the six specific questions. I've asked, IN CAPS, below:
I'm especially interested in a reply to the last POST RESURRECTION two. Thx in advance...
When Jesus prays to the Father:
1) IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
2) DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
3) DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
4) IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
5) DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
6) DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
Would you be kind enough answer the six specific questions. I've asked, IN CAPS, below:
I'm especially interested in a reply to the last POST RESURRECTION two. Thx in advance...
When Jesus prays to the Father:
1) IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
2) DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(I came from the Father, Jn 3:16 God sent his Son, I leave this world & return to the Father:
3) DID HE SEND HIMSELF?
4) IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
5) DOES HE SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus:
6) DOES THE LAMB/CHRIST TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND?)
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I answered your question.
If you expect others to answer your questions then you need to do the same.
Which one of His commandments do you struggle with keeping?
No other gods
Worshipping graven images
Taking His name in vain
Honoring your father or mother
Murder
Adultery
Stealing
Lying
Coveting
JLB
I agree, except for a person who leads people to depart from the faith by false doctrine of lawlessness.
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
1 Timothy 4:1
How can a person remain saved who departs from the faith in Christ.
JPT
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Hi justpassinthriugh,
Asking for 1 scripture to answer a book full of questions is unreasonable. I believe answers you question can be found here:
https://www.gotquestions.org/it-is-finished.html
Asking for 1 scripture to answer a book full of questions is unreasonable. I believe answers you question can be found here:
https://www.gotquestions.org/it-is-finished.html
Believe means have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. Obedience which follows is WORKS.
Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of his finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our obedience/works.
*See post #83,424 - https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/not-by-works.146296/page-4122#post-3834802
Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of his finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our obedience/works.
*See post #83,424 - https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/not-by-works.146296/page-4122#post-3834802
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Is God invisible? How do you suppose he would reveal himself to humanity if he is invisible, Spirit?
1. Jesus is in the flesh as the SON of MAN and setting the example for humanity to pray to OUR FATHER which MADE US ALL
2. JESUS is in the Flesh and LIMITED by the flesh having disrobed himself of GLORY
3. GOD is reconciling MAN UNTO HIMSELF through the PHYSICAL ICON of HIMSELF
4. JESUS which is the PHYSICAL representation of the INVISIBLE GOD had momentarily disrobed himself of the GLORY he HELD with the FATHER and is as MUCH GOD in his glorified STATE as the FATHER IS
5. HE sits on the THRONE AS GOD <---REVELATION and retakes HIS place that HE LEFT to fulfill 3
6. Does the LAMB described SOUND like JESUS or do you suppose it is a REPRESENTATION of CHRIST in HEAVEN (DO you think GOD is limited to one place at one time?)
1. Jesus is in the flesh as the SON of MAN and setting the example for humanity to pray to OUR FATHER which MADE US ALL
2. JESUS is in the Flesh and LIMITED by the flesh having disrobed himself of GLORY
3. GOD is reconciling MAN UNTO HIMSELF through the PHYSICAL ICON of HIMSELF
4. JESUS which is the PHYSICAL representation of the INVISIBLE GOD had momentarily disrobed himself of the GLORY he HELD with the FATHER and is as MUCH GOD in his glorified STATE as the FATHER IS
5. HE sits on the THRONE AS GOD <---REVELATION and retakes HIS place that HE LEFT to fulfill 3
6. Does the LAMB described SOUND like JESUS or do you suppose it is a REPRESENTATION of CHRIST in HEAVEN (DO you think GOD is limited to one place at one time?)