What became of the NT pattern of two baptisms?

I have seen the baptism Jesus submitted to as “proof” that it is necessary because we all should do as He did. Did it occur to anyone that Jesus was merely doing what any Jew entering the priesthood was required to do? This was a prerequisite for becoming a Jewish Priest. Since this was seen as the beginning of His official reign as priest/king, then just maybe the context is somewhat different than what some believe. Just as the baptism John was doing, was simply to “prepare” those being washed to be ready. The whole ceremonial act of washing and dunking was simply to declare the “filth” of sin, and our need of a REAL cleaning, one that lasts.

Symbolocally speaking this is true. The washing, the anointing, then the sacrifice, the

Just like symbolically speaking. A priest (us) had to also be washed in the river jordan. Then the sacrifice given, then the anointing.

But it is symbolising a spiritual event. The washing of regeneration performed by the HS (titus 3: 5) bit remember, we are also anointed by the spirit also.. Just like the spirit anointed Christ when he came out of the water

Both are a partnership between God and humankind from my perspective.
We immerse those who are water baptized.
And we lay hands on those who are Holy Spirit baptized.

Sorry, I disagree.

So, you would consider that a baptism?

Holy spirit baptism is not dependent on any man or any action.

Holy Spirit baptism is God baptising you. Are you honestly going to sit there and say that is equal to some sinner baptising you in water?

Thats fine, It does not make you right.
One baptism equals one baptism. If you think the baptism of man is more important and powerful than the baptism of God. You have issues. Serious issues

This topic is about the NT pattern of two baptisms.
I have provided seven biblical examples.
What are you going to do with those seven?

Where does the Bible call water baptism "the baptism of God"?
Perhaps I'm not the one with serious issues.
Besides your pet verse, do you have anything else that indicates only one baptism?
You are actually playing both sides of this. You claim there is only one baptism
while contending one is of God and one is of man. (that makes two)

That is just a ridiculous statement, on so many levels.
We were identified as sinners prior to coming to Christ. But we are now justified by grace.
Would you dismiss every ministry of the church claiming it is done by "sinners"?
As if we are somehow unfit, even though God has given us this work to do.

2 Corinthians 5:17-19
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

Wow, I forgot how argumentative and self righteous you can be.

What is ridiculous is saying the baptism performed by man is equal. or more effective as the baptism performed by God (thats human logic)

The bible says I was Saved by the washing (this is done by baptism) and regeneration (new birth) of the Holy Spirit. Not by any work of righteousness which I have done, (or not by the work of righteousness in obedience of being immersed in some water by some man in a ceremony God commands, which like circumcision of the OT can never take make a person clean (we are clean by the washing of water by the word My scripture says)

My scripture says I was baptized (immersed or placed into) the death and burial of Christ, This is an act of God, not some act of man immersing me in water

My scripture says I was baptized into Christ, Again, This is an act of God. not some man immersing me in water.

You want water to be your c leaning agent, and a sinner to be your baptizer to eternal life. Feel free

I will trust in the power of God to baptize me, christs death, and into christ himself. As the children of Isreal were placed into union (baptized) into moses.

You probably wouldn't introduce a personal attack like this unless you thought you were losing the debate.
And that's what this is, a debate. Why should I be criticized for confidently presenting my views?
Or be slanderously characterized as "argumentative and self-righteous" for doing so?
That seems quite inappropriate to me. But then I'm the one being attacked.

Just to be clear, I have always maintained that water baptism is a ceremony.
And I define a ceremony as an outward demonstration of an inward reality.
The inner reality was done by God. We agree on that point.
The outward demonstration has been assigned to us. As has the authority to do so. Jesus said:

Matthew 28:18-20
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Are you claiming to have been baptized in the Holy Spirit?
Jesus told the disciples to wait for the baptism which was outpoured at Pentecost.
The outpouring came with evidence. What evidence did you get?

You started it, Does this mean you think you are losing the debate? (I did nt know it was a debate in the first place is that what you think it is?)
Your the one who has once or twice now called my view ridiculous. So take your false accusation of me slandering you and put it back on the shelf. because you are wrong.

Whats wrong, you can give it out but you can't take it?

If your going to call someone view rediculous. You can expect backlash. If you want to debate, Then debate then show your view and prove me wrong, Saying it is ridiculous is just proving my point.. and does not suport your view at all.

When are people going to relise when you make stupid comments like that, Those SAME comments can be used against you? thus making that comment self righteous (your trying to promote sef and how smart you are) and being argumentative with no proof?

I am claiming the HS has baptized me into christ. That the HS has baptised me into his death and burial, where my sins were washed (also called the washing of the HS)

What evidence did I get? lol.. You need to study up the word baptize man. That evidence was given to the disciples to prove to THEM that the HS had come

Do we need proof today the HS was given? If you need proof. then something is wrong, because we have 2000 years of evidence the HS has come

and PS. the signs, they are given because of the anointing of the spirit. NOT THE BAPTISM.

The baptism of the spirit is him immersing us into Christ. nothign more nothing less

Here's a wretch in the ol sprocket.

Jh 02:13 ¶ And the Jews’ passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
Jh 02:14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
Jh 02:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;
Jh 02:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.

Lk 04:28 And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
Lk 04:29 And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.
Lk 04:30 But he passing through the midst of them went his way,

Mt 04:01 ¶ Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
Mt 04:02 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
Mt 04:03 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
Mt 04:04 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Mt 04:08 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Mt 04:09 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Lk 04:07 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
Mt 04:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Mt 04:05 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
Mt 04:06 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Mt 04:07 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Lk 04:13 And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.
Mt 04:11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Mk 01:36 And Simon and they that were with him followed after him.
Mk 01:37 And when they had found him, they said unto him, All men seek for thee.
Mk 01:38 And he said unto them, Let us go into the next towns, that I may preach there also: for therefore came I forth.
Lk 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Lk 12:49 ¶ I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?


Lk 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!

I dont know what you mean by creeds of the church. Which creed are you talking about..there seem to be a lot of different ones. Depending on which church you go to! Maybe its on..the other side of the page.

the spirit of anti-Christ - a replacement gospel that opposed the necessity of receiving the anointing of the Holy Spirit.
Most likely the majority way by the time of Constantine and the first Roman Church.
Explains why the last verses of the gospel of mark were erased.

And now today after 1500 years of other gospels and doctrines most churches are vehemently opposed to the latter rain revival
of the original Pentecostal gospel promised.
But regardless of the intransigence of the majority there is occurring throughout the world the most amazing Holy Spirit revival
where hundeds of thousands of people are being converted and are then plunged into water baptism and also baptism of the
Holy Spirit with signs and miracles following - speaking in new tongues, healings, dramatic life changes, and much more.