America’s Next Civil War

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Angela53510

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I sure wish they had those country flags! I am certain the OP had a Canadian flag, and said he was Canadian. But, of course that could be by way of the UK!

Really, Obama and Trudeau are part of a greater spiritual war. They are both men without God, trying to push our respective countries down the path of unrighteousness. I don't look often enough at the spiritual side of these kind of leaders, and perhaps I should. I just feel Canada is under attack from within. Trudeau has the media on his side, esp. CBC, because he promises more and more funding. Not sure why a big media outlet can't make money hand over fist like the rest of them.

Trump has made our country a much richer and safe place to live. Defeating Isis, and so quickly, was a miracle that makes the world a safer place. I know Trudeau would love to see Isis thrive, but thankfully, we don't have the military or the money to promote them. As long as Trump remains president, we can all work against those terrorists!

Good insight and notes, 7seas!
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I sure wish they had those country flags! I am certain the OP had a Canadian flag, and said he was Canadian. But, of course that could be by way of the UK!

Really, Obama and Trudeau are part of a greater spiritual war. They are both men without God, trying to push our respective countries down the path of unrighteousness. I don't look often enough at the spiritual side of these kind of leaders, and perhaps I should. I just feel Canada is under attack from within. Trudeau has the media on his side, esp. CBC, because he promises more and more funding. Not sure why a big media outlet can't make money hand over fist like the rest of them.

Trump has made our country a much richer and safe place to live. Defeating Isis, and so quickly, was a miracle that makes the world a safer place. I know Trudeau would love to see Isis thrive, but thankfully, we don't have the military or the money to promote them. As long as Trump remains president, we can all work against those terrorists!

Good insight and notes, 7seas!

I could not agree more with regard to 'a spiritual war'. I believe anyone with biblical knowledge and the ability to seek God and pray, knows that the devil has found allies in both those men and they have, apparently, the ability to deceive as they are themselves deceived. both history and the Bible itself makes this truth known

thx re the notes

if the op is not originally from the UK, he can straighten me out on that, but I thought I read that not too long ago
 

Locutus

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You obviously don't live in BC! Andrew Weaver and his Greens hold the balance of power in the legislature, and they will not allow the pipeline to be twinned. Horgan is conducting a fake poll to get people to support proportional representation, while the Greens, all 3 of them, hold a gun to his head. The ballots are mail in, we are in the middle of a Canada wide postal strike, and they will not extend the deadline for ballots. Last I heard, they had received 7% of the ballots back, with only 10 days to go.

BC is doomed, and being so normally left, and Green, it is not going to change.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Locutus!

As for the US, it is divided, but there is no Mason-Dixon Line. Some areas may be more rural or urban, more black than white or vice versa, more red than blue or the opposite, but it simply isn't as cleanly cut as the first Civil War was.

Just the opinion of another Canadian!

(By the way, why did we lose those country flags in the change over? They were so helpful. I've been assumed to be an American twice lately, once by someone who thought I was too liberal, the other time by someone using it as an insult, because I was so conservative. Nope, just Canadian!)
Too any assumptions here Angela, I married a Canadian in 1981 and moved here then - I've lived in BC ever since and moved to Vancouver Island back in 1989. I was born in the UK, spent three years in Australia before getting married

That pipeline will be twinned most likely, the court ordered review of environmental conditions and First Nation consultation will only delay it.

Personally I'm against it on two accounts. 1) more tar sands waste ponds - they do not have adequate clean up funding and never will - think Peggy Witte and the Giant Gold Mine that tax payers are still paying to clean up the toxic mess it left, estimated cost will be $800 million.

2) - I don't think it's in Canadians interest to deplete the oil as fast as they can in a world of harder to find sources.

And no BC is not doomed.
 

Locutus

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It is apparent others want to see the US collapse. Nothing against the OP, but he loathes capitalism,.
I don't want to see the US collapse, but it's quite possible. And no I don't loathe capitalism, I loathe the greedy capitalists, big difference. But you seem to see everything in black and white while living in a world of colour.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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OK. Trying not to boast, just laying out the facts as to just how powerful the U.S. has been, and continues to be. I think most people know, but this graph video truly illustrates what would happen if the U.S. were to implode. This is why it is so vitally important that leftists are defeated EVERYWHERE they pop their socialist head up.
Look at how quickly China has climbed the ranks! Shudder to think what happens if they become numero uno.


yeah I can see that but China is not doing all that great since the stale mate began according to articles regarding their economy and written by respected sources

as an afterthought, China would not be where it is if it had not received so much US tech and stolen what it was not given in trade deals

you can be sure that when greed overtakes common sense, it will not end well.

China is currently trying to stamp out Christianity once again (well they never stopped but has gotten worse) and have it in for muslims as well

I would not trust their leader as far as I could throw him to use an old expression
 

Angela53510

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Too any assumptions here Angela, I married a Canadian in 1981 and moved here then - I've lived in BC ever since and moved to Vancouver Island back in 1989. I was born in the UK, spent three years in Australia before getting married

That pipeline will be twinned most likely, the court ordered review of environmental conditions and First Nation consultation will only delay it.

Personally I'm against it on two accounts. 1) more tar sands waste ponds - they do not have adequate clean up funding and never will - think Peggy Witte and the Giant Gold Mine that tax payers are still paying to clean up the toxic mess it left, estimated cost will be $800 million.

2) - I don't think it's in Canadians interest to deplete the oil as fast as they can in a world of harder to find sources.

And no BC is not doomed.
My apologies I didn't remember you were originally from the UK. Just remembered my flag. LOL

As for living on Vancouver Island, with all the crunchy granolas, I rest my case. LOL

As for as Fort McMurray, not sure what you are talking about. The reclamation of land there is astounding. I have a high school friend, very left wing, who lives and works there and she always posts pictures of the reclaimed land, the wildlife and regrowth. She says if people actually went to the Fort, they would be amazed at the time, effort and money the oil companies put into reclamation.

I would be quite happy if the pipeline went through. I just don't see it passing all those requirements, not with the Greens from the Gulf Islands holding the balance of power in the Legislature, and Horgan their humble slave. Sadly, most of the native bands were in favour of the pipelines. It was mostly Squamish, which doesn't get any benefits, because the pipeline doesn't go through their lands that led the protests. But then, there is always payouts for just being indigenous, I guess!

Well, when people freeze to death this winter because of the lack of supply due to that leak in Fort St. Nelson, or wherever it was, then we might see people appreciating oil a bit more. As long as people don't start burning wood, and really messing up the air, I am just fine with natural gas.
 

Locutus

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My apologies I didn't remember you were originally from the UK. Just remembered my flag. LOL

As for living on Vancouver Island, with all the crunchy granolas, I rest my case. LOL

As for as Fort McMurray, not sure what you are talking about. The reclamation of land there is astounding. I have a high school friend, very left wing, who lives and works there and she always posts pictures of the reclaimed land, the wildlife and regrowth. She says if people actually went to the Fort, they would be amazed at the time, effort and money the oil companies put into reclamation.

I would be quite happy if the pipeline went through. I just don't see it passing all those requirements, not with the Greens from the Gulf Islands holding the balance of power in the Legislature, and Horgan their humble slave. Sadly, most of the native bands were in favour of the pipelines. It was mostly Squamish, which doesn't get any benefits, because the pipeline doesn't go through their lands that led the protests. But then, there is always payouts for just being indigenous, I guess!

Well, when people freeze to death this winter because of the lack of supply due to that leak in Fort St. Nelson, or wherever it was, then we might see people appreciating oil a bit more. As long as people don't start burning wood, and really messing up the air, I am just fine with natural gas.
Only certain parts of the Island are granola eaters. Denman, Hornby Islands are the most notable.

There was a recent report out of Alberta that stated the reclamation fund was only around $1.5 billion which is woefully low - Premier Motley Crew admitted it needs to be addressed, but I doubt it will because this is how the greedy capitalists work, mess up the place, bail out and then taxpayers end up paying.

Nobody gonna freeze, Fortis will up the pressure in the remaining pipe line to 85%, and not all homes use gas, industry use the lion's share.

I worked on the Horizon Project in Alberta project so I'm well familiar with the situation there.
 
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I gave it a look...


This article is just a diatribe of leftist nonsense.

The Walrus is a left-leaning publication, and the author of the article is a leftist who's written several gleeful articles about America's collapse, and he's even written an entire book about how much he hates Trump.
(It's fine if he wants to hate Trump, but we shouldn't pretend he's objective and unbiased.)

This article makes presumption atop presumption... and that just continues throughout the whole piece.
All things right-leaning are bad, and all things left-leaning are good.
The author also writes some fiction.
I'm not sure how an article speculating on a strange imaginary future constitutes news rather than fiction.

Articles imagining the collapse of America are basically just porn for Leftists.

Virtually anything could happen in the future, in America or any other country...
but that proposition isn't enough to turn a silly article into a smart one.




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The Walrus


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Factual Reporting: HIGH
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UnderGrace

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greedy capitalists
Here we go againo_O

Whats worse........ a "greedy socialist" who steals other people's hard earned money or a capitalist who is given money by the consumer for a product/service the consumer wants?
 

Locutus

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Here we go againo_O

Whats worse........ a "greedy socialist" who steals other people's hard earned money or a capitalist who is given money by the consumer for a product/service the consumer wants?
I'm gonna rate this slightly to the right of clueless BigSmile.gif

But I see there is hope for the greedy capitalists in Canada, ol' lefty chip off the block Justin has just doled out a corporate welfare grant to the greedy capitalists by dropping their tax rate from 17% to 13% adding around $1 billion to the national dept in 2019.

All in an attempt to attract investment capital which the dopes in Ottawa think will go to the US Sinking Ship after the Trump gave the greedy capitlasts a corporate welfare cheque in dropping the tax rate.
 
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I'm gonna rate this slightly to the right of clueless View attachment 190900

But I see there is hope for the greedy capitalists in Canada, ol' lefty chip off the block Justin has just doled out a corporate welfare grant to the greedy capitalists by dropping their tax rate from 17% to 13% adding around $1 billion to the national dept in 2019.

All in an attempt to attract investment capital which the dopes in Ottawa think will go to the US Sinking Ship after the Trump gave the greedy capitlasts a corporate welfare cheque in dropping the tax rate.
corporate welfare cheque
This is not capitalism, this is stupid government policy, another reason for limited government and less socialism, ie using taxpayers money to fund private companies, in essence destroying the foundations of a strong capitalist system, which built on competition not government grants.

I think you need to get more clues on what capitalism is!:LOL:
 

Locutus

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What I suggest you do is spend some of your teachers union pension on Chrystia Freeland's Book" Plutocrats: the Rise of the New Global Super-Rich and the Fall of Everyone Else" and then get back to me.

$25 is inexpensive edumacation.
 

Angela53510

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The latest today, which Michelle Rempel Conservative MP from Calgary-Nose Hill published, was that Justin is going to spend $600 million to buy off the press! Yep, $600 of our tax dollars, to selected reporters who have been vetted by a committee appointed by Justin! This is the WORST thing he has done! It's because he knows the country is against him, and he needs reporters to spin a different story.

Meanwhile, there is no money for vets, seniors, and even all the refugees he brought in and dimpled on the provinces.

Here is the link to FB. I think you probably have to be on FB to open it.
https://m.facebook.com/michellerempelmp/
 

RickyZ

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The left has shown they cannot and will not live under conservative rule.
Quantrill
And vice-versa. Neither side can stand the thought of the other. Which is why both sides are to blame for the coming anarchy.
 

Angela53510

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And vice-versa. Neither side can stand the thought of the other. Which is why both sides are to blame for the coming anarchy.

I think he means the left are not willing to obey the law! I may not agree with liberals, but I don't go with weapons to a counter demonstration, covering my face so I can hurt someone, and no one knows who I am. That is pure left tactics. Too bad they took the low road, instead of just standing for what they believe in, instead of becoming violent bullies.
 

Angela53510

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Here is what the National Post has to say on this Angela:

https://nationalpost.com/news/polit...g-point-in-the-plight-of-newspapers-in-canada

Preempting UG's political bias comments on the National Post:



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So slightly right? No wonder I trust their news! Good for them standing up against the mass leftist bias in this country. Like we need the Walrus, when we have CBC and CTV. Last election, the CTV crew was jumping up and down and saying "We won!" In their coverage of the election, as the votes came in. But, hey, biased reporting? As long as it is what you want to hear, it is all good!
 

RickyZ

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I think he means the left are not willing to obey the law! I may not agree with liberals, but I don't go with weapons to a counter demonstration, covering my face so I can hurt someone, and no one knows who I am. That is pure left tactics. Too bad they took the low road, instead of just standing for what they believe in, instead of becoming violent bullies.
Imagine if there were no left or right, just everyone pulling together for the common good.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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Imagine if there were no left or right, just everyone pulling together for the common good.
Oh Ricky😄, how would the campaigning expertise folks get paid if there was no left or right?😂