The creator and the thing

Is the Bible more important than God? What comes first God or the Bible? Will you need a Bible in the kingdom of heaven? Do you think Christians put way to much importance on the Bible (The created thing) rather than the creator.

I think those are fair questions. I don't know if we will need it in Heaven, but it's truth will always be. I think we may still derive pleasure like we do now in Jeremiah 15:16

I'm going to use the word to explain..

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:1‭-‬3 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/jhn.1.1-3.KJV

The Bible, written word of truth, is inspired by Him so of course He comes first.

Studying the word brings us closer to Him. I think the bible is the only living thing, EVER. I find that so cool. I do think that we need to spend more time in prayer and doing the word. But I think time in the word can bring us to those.

The Bible is all about the Creator. I just think He gave us His Word, just as He gave Himself. Separating His truth given from Him seems a conflict of interest.

Hey! Trap... PTL!
Jesus said in Jn 5:39 "Search the scripture; for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

So No. Definitely not, but much the rather in every way! For the Lord uses scripture, his word, to reveal himself to us. In fact, one could say that the Lord is found in the words of the bible by the ministry of the Holy Spirit toward those who are able to hear him.
For the New Covenant believer; devotions in scripture reveal Jesus to us, Spirit to spirit, an we learn of him.
The Spirit also uses our devotions in scripture to fulfill the promise of the New Covenant by writing the Lord's commandments into our hearts and minds, which is how we stop being conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. The scriptures are also the nutrients for faith so that it can become strong and full of power. The fervent effectual prayer of a righteous man availeth much. Another promise found within scripture that by these we might be made partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
Maranatha!

A need to rethink:

I would suggest we take a step back, and consider rethinking things a bit.

Sometimes our THINKING about a thing doesn't genuinely reflect the thing itself.


The Bible is... what exactly?

So what are we really talking about?
Are we really talking about a physical book of little pages we can toss into a glove box?
Or are we really talking about something far more metaphysical?

Aren't we really talking about God's own thoughts, divine eternal thoughts, thoughts which are themselves non-material, and which pass into our minds through other entities, called words, which are ALSO non-material.

We're really talking about non-material entities... strange and mystical things called thoughts.

Can God's eternal thoughts really be separated from Him?
If his eternal thoughts are eternal... then haven't they always been part of God, and haven't they always been?

And lets think about that... lets think about his eternal thoughts being PART of Him.


What IS this God we worship?

What IS he?

He is eternal.
He is a person (not a human person, but a person).
He is immaterial... having, and needing, no body.
What is a person with no body?
A mind.
God is spirit; God is unembodied mind.

Think about that, God is unembodied mind.

So, if God is unembodied mind... how much of the great unembodied mind would be thoughts?
How much of a mind is thoughts?
Can you have a mind without thoughts?
Can the two be separated at all?

Thoughts.

The great unembodied mind cannot be separated from his eternal thoughts.
Christ was even called "the word made flesh".
Christ was called the logos made flesh... logos meaning both "words", and a kind of "intrinsic wisdom"
Christ was the "immaterial words" and the "immaterial thoughts" made into flesh.
Now do you see why?
Christ is the "words and thoughts made into flesh" because GOD IS MIND.


Clarification

A philosophical discussion of the Godhead may sound unusual to some; so let's clarify a bit.

I'm not saying God is a brain, and I'm not saying God is a finite mind like MY mind or YOUR mind.
God is the infinite, eternal, all powerful, necessary being that must be, and he is immaterial.
The only words we have to describe that kind of entity are spirit, and mind.
When we say God is spirit, we are essentially saying God is unembodied mind.
Philosophically they can be used interchangeably.


So where does this end up?

God, who is eternal spirit, eternal mind, gave us a great gift.

God took some of his eternal thoughts, which are PART OF his eternal mind, and put them into words we could understand, and gave those to us.

Those words, those thoughts... they are, quite LITERALLY, PART OF HIM.




Let's think more highly of our Bibles.
Have a blessed Thanksgiving.
Max



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Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

And we shall be in the presence of GOD the WORD himself. (John 1) Hallelujah.

And I will tell you something else as well. There will not be any Old Testament Law!

Your question is intellectual. Reading teh Biblewithout the Holy Spirit guiding a person, and if he thinks he is seizing the truth of it is also intellectual.

God is not impressed by such an attitude.

When we have come to believe Jesus Christ the Bible is no longer just an object, it is theprinted Word and the Word is God. Jesus is God. The believer is led by the Holy Spirit and taught by the same…….

Without the Holy Spirit the written code kills; with It there is life.

Do not ask if the Bible is a "thing" if you do not know by the experience of receiving the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It would be like trying to see the things in which we who believe have our faith...…..

Please read, learn to understand just what Jesus has to teach on thee law…..do not stop meditating until you truly understand His teaching.

Here, lemme help you get more comfortable............



THERE! Now you can pfish to your hearts content

Naw, he'll need a motor on that thing if he's gonna troll.

No..

God..

No.. We shall have all knowledge..

No.. It is my experience that Christians sadly do not put enough importance on the Bible.. Most Christians are Bible illiterate and are severely lacking in scriptural knowledge.. Thus they are easy prey for deceivers and denominations that twist the Word of God and create false doctrines to lead them to eternal destruction..

People who attack the Bible usually are following false doctrines,, some more then others..