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You know better than I Quantrill, You and I agree on absolutely nothing. However, I have have studied a little bit of European history. ( american) and I Agree with you on this. The Jewish people were taking over all the businesses in Germany. Hitler was " the devil" but he came at just the right time...( When the Germans were fed up.) And they were more justified in their actions then when we (Europeans) committed genocide on an entire race of people here in America Which we had no justification for but greed!!!
( not American*) But European..
 
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You know better than I Quantrill, You and I agree on absolutely nothing. However, I have have studied a little bit of European history. ( american) and I Agree with you on this. The Jewish people were taking over all the businesses in Germany. Hitler was " the devil" but he came at just the right time...( When the Germans were fed up.) And they were more justified in their actions then when we (Europeans) committed genocide on an entire race of people here in America Which we had no justification for but greed!!!
i dont think the Jews were ever out to control the world they just happen to always be the best at what they do, when the hope diamond was cut it was cut by Jewish diamond cutters, it was one of the biggest diamonds ever found and they wanted the best craftsmen working on it.
the state of Israel and Zion movement has been a big deal to many the last 50 years, its supported by many but also many Jews do not support it. you aslso dont hear much on the Jews that were in Palestine before who were mostly appalled by what happened to most all of the non Jewish citizens who were evicted from their homes by force. it was very ugly and still is to this day.
 

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Are Jews a Different race than Israeli ? I am confused about this because american Israeli people refer to themselves as Jewish but the people that I have met from Israel refer to themselves as Israeli?
You know if you are an Israeli or a Jew then …. Especially if you are born in Israel… Why play stupid?
 

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You know better than I Quantrill, You and I agree on absolutely nothing. However, I have have studied a little bit of European history. ( american) and I Agree with you on this. The Jewish people were taking over all the businesses in Germany. Hitler was " the devil" but he came at just the right time...( When the Germans were fed up.) And they were more justified in their actions then when we (Europeans) committed genocide on an entire race of people here in America Which we had no justification for but greed!!!
Sort of like when God sent Israel into the promised land. Israel destroyed all those Canaanites due to their greed. They greedily wanted the land of milk and honey. Strange how God blessed them in that.

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You know if you are an Israeli or a Jew then …. Especially if you are born in Israel… Why play stupid?
Then what??? You did'nt answer my question.. ( you know... (The stupid one) What is the difference???
 
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i dont think the Jews were ever out to control the world they just happen to always be the best at what they do, when the hope diamond was cut it was cut by Jewish diamond cutters, it was one of the biggest diamonds ever found and they wanted the best craftsmen working on it.
the state of Israel and Zion movement has been a big deal to many the last 50 years, its supported by many but also many Jews do not support it. you aslso dont hear much on the Jews that were in Palestine before who were mostly appalled by what happened to most all of the non Jewish citizens who were evicted from their homes by force. it was very ugly and still is to this day.


There are a lot of Christians in Palestine... Several members from my church took a pilgrimage there this past summer...
 
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Then what??? You did'nt answer my question.. ( you know... (The stupid one) What is the difference???
Like the actress "Gal Gadot" She refers to herself as Israeli... Jerry Seinfeld refers to himself a Jew.. And I'm really not stupid. Just unfamiliar with that region of the world.. LOL!!!
 

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It was a mixture of occult practices and Norse mythology. A large dose of Roman Emperor worship
was added to the mix. The original Aryans were actually Persians. Thename of Iran comes from
the Persian name which means Land of the Aryans

Its strange that Hitlers physical appearance didn't match his idea of a Blue eyed blond super race!
 

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The Nazis killed anyone who didn't fit their ideals...unless they were worth something to them. There's multiple stories of Jews and other people being protected by high ranking Nazi officials because of their supposed 'worth'.

Now in terms of their beliefs. Well that's an interesting one because you have to separate the Nazis and the Wermacht. A lot of Nazis in high command were 'anti-religion'. Himmler and Goebbels for example. On the flip side lots of Nazis tried warping Christianity into their Aryan ideals and portrayed this as a fight against the Jews. I read a book about Nazis and the occult and that contained far too much stuff to write about here but was very interesting.

Much of the regular German population, and one can assume, the Wermacht, were predominantly Protestant. But then the bit I find interesting is Hitler was in some sense trying to become a god. He was trying to become the father of the German people. He set rules, he tried to replace faith in God with faith in himself.

I mean obviously this topic has a million different answers but the Nazis killed millions of people simply because they didn't like them and anyone could make the argument they had no faith at all.

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Did you that Germany has excepted 150,000 more Immigrants in there country
than America? Mostly Middle eastern people escaping oppression in their country...
How has that turned out for them ? Did you know that Merkle has about lost her job,
mostly because of her generous immigration views ?

Merkel’s generous refugee policy puts Germany at risk
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-threatens-german-security-islamist-terrorism

“ Islamist terror attacks have increased markedly in the country since
it opened its doors to migrants fleeing the Syrian Civil War…

Germany was the target of eight times more Islamist plots in 2016 than in 2015.
Most of these planned attacks were the work of newly arrived asylum seekers.
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Clinton says Europe must curb migration to halt nationalism
https://euobserver.com/tickers/143483

Who Really Locks Migrants in Concentration Camps?
https://www.thetrumpet.com/17434-who-really-locks-migrants-in-concentration-camps
 

prove-all

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Oct. 27 100 years after WWI, far right seeks to 'glorify German Empire'
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...-wwi-far-right-seeks-to-glorify-german-empire

In spring 2017, its editors introduced a new series: Compact History.
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Is It Right to Blame World War I’s Treaty of Versailles for the Rise of Hitler?
https://newyorktonight.wordpress.co...-treaty-of-versailles-for-the-rise-of-hitler/

Germany is not to blame for World War i and ii. Instead Germans should celebrate
‘1,000 Years of German Empire—Our History, Our Achievements, Our Pride.’

It states that “the American financial capital enslaved Germany
—and promoted the dictator,” referring to Adolf Hitler.

Welcome to the new German history .
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This movement to rewrite German history comes at the same time as a Continent
-wide shift. Europe Returning to Its Roots: the Holy Roman Empire.

Germans want to be proud of their history, and they want their nation to throw its weight
around on the world scene. The biggest obstacle to this is their history. Already a shocking
number are ignorant of it—hence this effort to rewrite it.

Late German historian Immanuel Geiss firmly believed in Germany’s guilt for World War i.
Because of Germany’s role in World War i and ii, he said that Germany must “make do with
the status of lesser powers in Europe” and forget about “all patriotic dreams of a German Reich.”

The truth: In 1972 Geiss pronounced the controversy over, declaring,

“The overwhelming role played by the German Reich in the outbreak of World War i
and the offensive character of Germany’s war objectives is no longer a point of con-
troversy, nor is it disputable.”

Fischer’s work has been forgotten and new interpretations of history are slipping in.
Over the last few decades, a whole school of German historians gave similar warnings
based on this history.

Heinrich August Winkler, chair of modern history at the Humboldt University in Berlin, wrote,
“In light of the role that Germany played in the genesis of the two world wars, Europe and the
Germans cannot and should not desire a new German Reich, a sovereign nation-state, anymore.
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In September, Aachen Cathedral held a weeklong festival to celebrate Charlemagne
(or Karl der Grosse, as he is known in Germany). Austria is using its rotating presidency
of the European Union to put the Holy Roman Empire on display, advertising the Imperial
Treasure in Vienna and the crown of the Holy Roman Empire.
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Austria displayed this heritage at the heart of the EU—in the European Council building
in Brussels—to try and get Europeans to reengage with this history.

This new European view of history is being pushed from the top. The EU designated 2018 as
the “European Year of Cultural Heritage.” It called for all member states to work together
for “the improvement of the knowledge and dissemination of the culture and history of
the European peoples.”

As part of this year of cultural heritage, a meeting was held this summer in Berlin.
The organizers wrote, “Cultural heritage must be given a much bigger importance
in education activities—both formal and informal—for all ages. … Special attention
must be given to history education and heritage interpretation.”

Why is this history receiving a resurgence all across Europe?
https://www.thetrumpet.com/17990-german-history-is-changing
 

Quantrill

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So much concern over a white people becoming nationalistic. Being proud to be German or white...My, my. If it were Mexicans who were proud of their heritage, and nationalistic, everyone would just bow and grovel at their feet saying how good and cultural they are. Oh yes, let the Mexican flag fly as it displays such nationalism among the Mexican people. They are so hard working and cultural, ...you just can't say enough good things about them.

But let some white people somewhere become proud of their heritage....nothing but hate filled mongers. The evil people.

Surely the white race will grow up one day.

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How has that turned out for them ? Did you know that Merkle has about lost her job,
mostly because of her generous immigration views ?

Merkel’s generous refugee policy puts Germany at risk
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-threatens-german-security-islamist-terrorism

“ Islamist terror attacks have increased markedly in the country since
it opened its doors to migrants fleeing the Syrian Civil War…

Germany was the target of eight times more Islamist plots in 2016 than in 2015.
Most of these planned attacks were the work of newly arrived asylum seekers.
-

Clinton says Europe must curb migration to halt nationalism
https://euobserver.com/tickers/143483

Who Really Locks Migrants in Concentration Camps?
https://www.thetrumpet.com/17434-who-really-locks-migrants-in-concentration-camps
Yes, Germany lives in the 21st century! They are intelligent people. They Know who their enemies are . And they take care of it... I cannot get my head around the fact that after all the criticism that Germany has received over the years you fault them for their Humanity! Really???
 

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what exactly was the belief system of the nazis? all you ever hear are terms like pagan, occult, astrology, etc but no specifics...
Nazism was essentially Fascism - the state became *god*. And since Hitler was the absolute dictator, Hitler became *god*, and was worshiped for all practical purposes.
"Wilfried Daim suggests that Hitler and the Nazi leadership planned to replace Christianity in Germany with a new religion in which Hitler would be considered a messiah." Hitler took the biblical concept of the Millennium and promoted a Thousand Year Reich (Reign).

"Moreover the allegiance of the army is now to be personal. On the very day of Hindenburg's death, each officer and man in the German army swears by God to 'render unconditional obedience to the Führer of the German Reich and People, Adolf Hitler' and to 'be ready, as a brave soldier, to stake my life at any time for this oath'."

http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories

So it was a secular, humanistic, political, and *civic religion* which dabbled in the occult, where the Nazis were devoted to Hitler, the Fatherland, and the Reich. The ethnic composition of this Reich was to be *Aryan*, so all non-Aryans were to be exterminated for *racial hygiene*. This would produce the Master Race (Ubermenschen). This was in keeping with Social Darwinianism (the survival of the fittest) with help from the State. According to a book titled Table Talk, which presented some of the ideas of Hitler "..the teachings of Christianity are a rebellion against the natural law of selection by struggle and survival of the fittest..."
 

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what exactly was the belief system of the nazis? all you ever hear are terms like pagan, occult, astrology, etc but no specifics. and no i dont buy the idea that "they were just crazy" like i was told in school.
In many ways the Nazis and Marxists/Communists are a product of Charles Darwin and his false science of biological evolution.
Once the notion of human beings being merely biological and not sacred was taken up by societies this led to social and political Darwinism whereby man-made religions could give value to some and dehumanise others.
We see this being readily applied in the "right" to abort babies because babies are not human, definitely not sacred.

Behind all this chaos of Marxism, facism, Leninism, secularism, humanism, theosophy, occultism etc etc was also the work and
purpose of Satan & Co. who were determined to obliterate the Jews (Judah) in order to prevent the future reestablishment of
the reborn nation of Israel.
 

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Genesis 49:
1 And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.
16 Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.
17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that bites the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
 

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Sort of like when God sent Israel into the promised land. Israel destroyed all those Canaanites due to their greed. They greedily wanted the land of milk and honey. Strange how God blessed them in that.

Quantrill
is it that you don't believe the Bible or that you haven't read it?

when they reached the land they were afraid and wanted to go back to Egypt.

and then what, under Joshua? have a look for example at Jericho and Ai. they were commanded to take the land, and to destroy all of Jericho. because of greed in that event, the Lord punished them at Ai.
 

Quantrill

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is it that you don't believe the Bible or that you haven't read it?

when they reached the land they were afraid and wanted to go back to Egypt.

and then what, under Joshua? have a look for example at Jericho and Ai. they were commanded to take the land, and to destroy all of Jericho. because of greed in that event, the Lord punished them at Ai.
What Bible are you reading? One you wrote?

Yes, they were ordered by God to destroy Jericho. How does that fit with you?

Because Achan took some grament, instead of destroying all, they were punished. After that, they continued on in destroying the Canaanites.

The point is, God used them to destroy all of the Canaanites. No problem.

Quantrill