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Each name of the days of the week come from some Greek god or another. Maybe we should just number the days of the week as it was practiced in biblical times, Sunday is now just the first day of the week....Saturday, the seventh. Oh yeah, I seem to 'remember' that God rested on this day, something to do with the Sabbath.
Why do you suppose that the first day of the week is the common day of worship and rest for Christians?
How did this come about?
 

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Why do you suppose that the first day of the week is the common day of worship and rest for Christians?
How did this come about?
I believe that the Catholic church started this tradition of Sunday worship and is still practiced today by most Christian religious denominations. Something to do with a misunderstanding about the "Lord's Day', which is really a reference to the second coming of Jesus to judge the world. According to scripture, the Lord's Day is a day of wrath. I have no problem at all with those that want to continue the practice of Sunday worship as instituted by the Catholic church. I personally believe any day is acceptable to worship the Lord and there are numerous such biblical passages to substantiate this belief of mine. We would all do well to worship the Lord each and every day.
 
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oh, yes he 'cares' very much and is a great and informed 'teacher', sharing his wisdom -

we, hub and me, are always open to receiving what those who Love Jesus are led to share...
 

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I believe that the Catholic church started this tradition of Sunday worship and is still practiced today by most Christian religious denominations. Something to do with a misunderstanding about the "Lord's Day', which is really a reference to the second coming of Jesus to judge the world. According to scripture, the Lord's Day is a day of wrath. I have no problem at all with those that want to continue the practice of Sunday worship as instituted by the Catholic church. I personally believe any day is acceptable to worship the Lord and there are numerous such biblical passages to substantiate this belief of mine. We would all do well to worship the Lord each and every day.
Thanks for summarizing where you are at on this.
What you are saying is a common misunderstanding from my perspective.
Here's why.

The term "the Lord's Day" is not the same as "the Day of the Lord". They are two separate terms.
The exact term "the Lord's Day" is used only once in the Bible (Rev.1:10) and there it is not defined.
To define the term we need to look to historical writings from the same time period.

The writings of the early church define the term "the Lord's Day" for us.
The term "the Lord's Day" means the first day of the week, the day of our Lord's resurrection, a day of Christian gathering.
These early writings are from the first to third centuries AD. Long before there was an official Catholic Church.
 

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Thanks for summarizing where you are at on this.
What you are saying is a common misunderstanding from my perspective.
Here's why.

The term "the Lord's Day" is not the same as "the Day of the Lord". They are two separate terms.
The exact term "the Lord's Day" is used only once in the Bible (Rev.1:10) and there it is not defined.
To define the term we need to look to historical writings from the same time period.

The writings of the early church define the term "the Lord's Day" for us.
The term "the Lord's Day" means the first day of the week, the day of our Lord's resurrection, a day of Christian gathering.
These early writings are from the first to third centuries AD. Long before there was an official Catholic Church.
I believe what you have stated about the Day of the Lord and the Lord's Day being two separate things is worthy of further study and consideration. It appears also that perhaps the Catholic church adopted the practice of Sunday worship from previous earlier practices of other Christian churches.
 

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I believe what you have stated about the Day of the Lord and the Lord's Day being two separate things is worthy of further study and consideration. It appears also that perhaps the Catholic church adopted the practice of Sunday worship from previous earlier practices of other Christian churches.
Many point to what they call the "Sunday law" in Canon 29 of the Council of Laodicea. Dated 364 AD.
But notice that the Lord's Day is already the day of worship. The change is actually the day of rest, not the day of worship.

Canon 29
Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.
 

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Sunday

The name comes from the Latin dies solis, meaning "sun's day": the name of a pagan Roman holiday. It is also called Dominica (Latin), the Day of God. The Romance languages, languages derived from the ancient Latin language (such as French, Spanish, and Italian), retain the root.

French: dimanche; Italian: domenica; Spanish: domingo
German: Sonntag; Dutch: zondag. [both: 'sun-day']


........oops.......

:)

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/...HZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?qid=20090110155946AAm6YVC


he name "Sunday", the day of the Sun, is derived from Hellenistic astrology, where the seven planets, known in English as Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, the Sun, Venus, Mercury and the Moon, each had an hour of the day assigned to them, and the planet which was regent during the first hour of any day of the week gave its name to that day. During the 1st and 2nd century, the week of seven days was introduced into Rome from Egypt, and the Roman names of the planets were given to each successive day

Sunday - Wikipedia


..........double oops........

:)

seems it may BE pagan after all
 

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Sunday

The name comes from the Latin dies solis, meaning "sun's day": the name of a pagan Roman holiday. It is also called Dominica (Latin), the Day of God. The Romance languages, languages derived from the ancient Latin language (such as French, Spanish, and Italian), retain the root.

French: dimanche; Italian: domenica; Spanish: domingo
German: Sonntag; Dutch: zondag. [both: 'sun-day']


........oops.......

:)

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/...HZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?qid=20090110155946AAm6YVC


he name "Sunday", the day of the Sun, is derived from Hellenistic astrology, where the seven planets, known in English as Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, the Sun, Venus, Mercury and the Moon, each had an hour of the day assigned to them, and the planet which was regent during the first hour of any day of the week gave its name to that day. During the 1st and 2nd century, the week of seven days was introduced into Rome from Egypt, and the Roman names of the planets were given to each successive day

Sunday - Wikipedia


..........double oops........

:)

seems it may BE pagan after all
Now apply the same logic to Saturday. Thanks.
Unless you don't believe that the name of the day of the week determines which deity is being worshiped.
 

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it could have something to do with " early in the mourning on the fist day of the week"......
 

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it could have something to do with " early in the mourning on the fist day of the week"......
Interesting to compare the Gospel accounts of that.

Matthew 28:1
After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

Mark 16:2
Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb

Luke 24:1
On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb.

John 20:1
Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.
 
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All substance of the universe belongs rightfully to God. Any sin is the abuse of it. We as Christians redeemed by God carry out the work of redemption in world. As Christ who touched many unclean and they became clean because of his righteousness, so we also touch what is unclean and we in Christ and Christ in us empart Christ's righteousness and the unclean becomes clean. Paul said this," all things are lawful but all things are not beneficial." This is why we have liberty, that we in Christ name, continue the work of redemption of the world, by preaching, teaching, evangelizing, serving, and sanctifying. There by redeeming the days the hours the materials of the world.
 

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Now apply the same logic to Saturday. Thanks.
Unless you don't believe that the name of the day of the week determines which deity is being worshiped.
Saturday has already been covered.........I was responding (and you should know it) to this:

"How could Sunday worship have come from paganism,
when Sunday was never a pagan holiday?" — RALPH WOODROW


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