Do you pray for the lost? Then welcome to Calvinism

How do you guys deal with the following verse....

The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.

Now folks please direct all your attention to Jesusism…… Calvin cannot keep up with the truth He gives to all freely.

God foreknew that many would reject Him. Scripture also says that He created hell for the devil and his angels, yet he said that hell would be populated by man.

"Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied" (Proverbs 27:20).

God still makes the offer of 'whomsover will may come" even though He knows they won't, just as He presented the Kingdom to Israel even though He knew they would not receive it through His death.

Although a true Calvinist doesn't believe a person even needs to be saved.

Let me throw that right back at you:

Why pray for the lost, when God has already predestinated who will be saved and who wont? Our prayers wont affect it one bit.

Btw: The Bible tells us to pray for ALL men, God wants ALL MEN to be saved. Contrary to what calvinism teaches.
(It says ALL MEN, not all KINDS of men, or all ELECT men. Thats just adding to scripture)

Your ideas are strange, IMHO.

Ephesians 1:4; 5:25

(Note: Debating according to calvinist philosophy is pointless, their opponent is predestinated to be a non-calvinist anyway.

How many people here know any calvinist street preachers? How many know calvinist churches that run bus ministries? How many know calvinist churches that go evangelizing weekly as a church?

I know not ONE! Granted this is anecdotal evidence. But its clear that this kind of doctrine that its already decided who is saved WOULD lead to apathy and lack of interest in evangelizing, which is why worldwide pentecostals are dominating in the spreading of the gospel, say what you will about em. Bettter pentecostal than pagan, amen?

The work I see calvinists MOST involved in is "defending the faith" a.k.a debating:
(Note: Debating according to calvinist philosophy is pointless, their opponent is predestinated to be a non-calvinist anyway. Similarly debating heretics is useless, God has just predestinated them to be a heretic)
Btw Can you imagine Elijah debating the prophets of ba'al? "How can we come together as a community and understand each other better. I respect you guys for being consistent in your beliefs!"
I think not!

How do you guys deal with the following verse....

The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.

Calvin taught us that it is acceptable to burn our enemies at the stake . . .

How do you guys deal with the following verse....

The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.

Hey BB...….I hope you see the referenced Authority is Jesus Christ in my post. I know nothing of any of the sects calling themselves Christian or Jew…….I believe Jesus.

Our Father also has declared He has created some just to show His wrath. I have a personal understanding of this, but most would not understand.

He also declares , so what if I justify the ungodly."

God's ways are not our ways and His mind is notour mind.

Yes, simply quoting does not mean that I am calling you out . . . just adding to the thought of what Calvin "gave us" . . . I prefer Jesus Who "gave Himself for us . . ."

He certainly created Satan and the Antichrist to show His wrath to. I do believe that those two are 'elected' to their fate. I also believe that Israel is 'elected' to be God's chosen people.

Your ideas about calvinism and generally about other Christians, about other views and theologies. I noticed several times before.

I am with you. I know nothing of Calvinism except it is said they are strictly OSAS. When I heard that, I was scared off of even thinking about learning more....God bless you. I thought something was wonky there…...it was I.