Sex before marriage: a poll

Trying to get a snapshot of the modern Church view on sex before marriage. Please feel free to elaborate!

It's fun.

I don't even need the Bible or prayer for this one. All I have to do is look at the examples all around me. It creates a whole crapload of drama that I don't want to put up with. I'm a great believer in learning from the mistakes of others.

All the things the Bible designates as "sin" are so labeled for a reason. If you avoid those things you will have a better life. Not "might," not "if you're lucky," you WILL have a better life without the things labeled "sin." So far I've had a pretty good life.

I feel like it's a really good way to get yourself stuck permanently to someone you never intended to be stuck to. All it takes is one time ..with or without protection and you could get pregnant then you are tied to that person even if you choose not to continue a relationship with them.

The number of women, my age, with multiple children, from multiple men, is astonishing.

For some reason I'm reminded of what a former government leader said about avoiding entangling alliances...

I had to laugh at option 2

""" It is okay, God will forgive us """

If it was okay then why would God need to forgive us for doing it???
If it was okay then we would not need to be forgiven by God for doing it..

the modern church view? You’ll have your “it’s ok” crowd. You’ll have the “sex is bad!!!” crowd. You’ll have the crowd that talks about it too much. You’ll have the crowd that has it as a taboo subject.

What does God say though?

Everyone knows what the bible says.

This is really a poll of what people think.

I give general answers, so no one picks a fight with me.

Yup.

And what I think is, it's not worth all the crap and drama it creates. I've seen a lot of people try to get away with it without having to deal with all the junk it creates, but I have never seen anybody get out unscathed.

Boaz and Ruth slept together before they were married and their story had a happy ending. Apparently, she deduced him at the urging of her mother-in-law but he didn't complain one bit. Very interesting dynamic between the two of them.

"You and me baby ain't nothing but mammals, let's do it like they do on the discovery channel."

This thread reminds me of that song.

I don't think all is lost if it happens.

Tommy, based on my own personal experiences I don't believe all is lost either if it happens. First wife was horrible though but I consider that to be an anomaly of some sort.

If I was serious about a woman, I probably would. I'm at an age, and the women who would want me, are about the same, that it wouldn't matter.

I admire your honesty, but vehemently disagree with the idea that once we get to a certain age disobeying God's commands doesn't matter anymore. God didn't put an age limit on sexual immorality and there's a reason why (I'm not entirely sure I know the reason, but I'm completely sure I don't want to learn the reason though painful experience).

The problem is not sex but marriage. What is marriage? Marriage is not what many think.

Marriage as per God is on the basis of "..when two or three agree, God is in their midst (as a witness)..." And specifically when a man is bound to a woman through love, when the two agree to be together. Marriage is not a wedding- weddings are traditions of men that is mostly applied in place of God's law and are generally evil in this end times.

A boyfriend and a girlfriend are already married as long as they agree to be together and consummate their marriage with sex. This makes your poll null and void because your idea of marriage is different from what God has said. Garden of Eden is a perfect example of marriage and was overseen by God. So, a marriage is overseen by God only; the reason God says "...let no man separate what God has joined..."

Therefore:
1. Breaking up with a girlfriend or boyfriend is divorce
2. Weddings and marriage certificates or divorce certificates do not mean anything positive spiritually but only serve to fulfill the law of the land (statutory). But let's be careful even as we give Caesar what belongs to him lest we forget God because weddings have become an oath taking/promise making ceremonies yet we have no control of the future. Jesus said it is evil.

It wouldn't matter to me. I'm sure God has some concern.

I'm 39, divorced, and have two offspring.

It just doesn't seem like a big deal anymore.

Like I said, I admire your honesty because it does take courage. I still disagree with your opinion, though I wonder if I'd been through your experiences how exactly those would shape my own opinion.