Jewish & Gentile Relationship

But does it not stump you for one minute, that we are not reaching Orthodox Jews?

You must never forget, that Paul is pointing to a day that Gentiles must revile the Messiah in a Kosher manner. Do you think Jesus/Yeshua is any way different today as Yosef/Joseph was in Egypt? There are endless books on the coming of Mashiach Ben Yosef and Mashiach Ben David and their differences and they COMPLETELY parallel the life and history and 2,000's of Jesus/Yeshua? It is in our hands to either bring the Messiah to the Jewish people (and that will cost some of us our lives) and we must never boast over them. I pray daily however for ALL souls to know the REAL Jesus and fulfill their roles that we are all called to do.

Not real for sure what you're talking about...."boasting over them"....and for the record...I have witnessed to as many Jews as possible in my life and even on one occasion had one send me a Tanach from N.Y. because I met him at a funeral of his friend and spent three hours talking to him about JESUS....I told him that I love the Jewish people and would lay my life down for a Jewish person in a micro second because after all a Jewish man laid his life down for me.........

I said "reaching the Jews" has nothing to do with His second coming.
I know that millions of Jews have been saved, but a majority have rejected Him.
And the truth is that more rejected Jesus during His personal ministry ( about 3 1/2 years) than accepted Him as Messiah.
If you think there is going to be a great revival and most Jews will be saved before Jesus returns, you have no understanding of Scripture.

My name is Mike and I truly have a heart for all people on this earth to know G-d and His Messiah Yeshua/Jesus. It is evident that the church has done a wonderful if not an excelling job at reaching various nations (especially in the last 50 years), and spreading the word of G-d to the best of their abilities. But does it not stump you for one minute, that we are not reaching Orthodox Jews? One needs to go no further than any of the Gospels or Romans 11 to recognize one major part of being a "Christian" or "Follower of the Messiah", is to reach the Jewish people about their 100% Kosher/Jewish Messiah. To go even further, we know that Yeshua/Jesus has not completed the FULL mission of what a Messiah must do and the Jews call this Mashiach Ben Yosef (Messiah Son of Yosef) and he will need to return as Mashiach Ben David. Now, this is not to disregard the teachings of Sha'ul/Paul to the Gentiles and their non-observance of the Torah, but as Colossians 1:9-13 teaches us, we even as Gentiles have the Spirit to KNOW G-d's wisdom (Torah), in order to "provoke" Jews back to their Messiah.

Question: Why are we either not reaching this goal of redeeming the Orthodox Jewish Community OR why are we not questioning ourselves for not fulfilling such a major part of our role, which will ring in the Messiah's 2nd coming?

My name is Mike and I truly have a heart for all people on this earth to know G-d and His Messiah Yeshua/Jesus. It is evident that the church has done a wonderful if not an excelling job at reaching various nations (especially in the last 50 years), and spreading the word of G-d to the best of their abilities. But does it not stump you for one minute, that we are not reaching Orthodox Jews? One needs to go no further than any of the Gospels or Romans 11 to recognize one major part of being a "Christian" or "Follower of the Messiah", is to reach the Jewish people about their 100% Kosher/Jewish Messiah. To go even further, we know that Yeshua/Jesus has not completed the FULL mission of what a Messiah must do and the Jews call this Mashiach Ben Yosef (Messiah Son of Yosef) and he will need to return as Mashiach Ben David. Now, this is not to disregard the teachings of Sha'ul/Paul to the Gentiles and their non-observance of the Torah, but as Colossians 1:9-13 teaches us, we even as Gentiles have the Spirit to KNOW G-d's wisdom (Torah), in order to "provoke" Jews back to their Messiah.

Question: Why are we either not reaching this goal of redeeming the Orthodox Jewish Community OR why are we not questioning ourselves for not fulfilling such a major part of our role, which will ring in the Messiah's 2nd coming?

We should reach out to everyone, but God will bring the nation of Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah in the future.

God is going to restore the kingdom on earth to the Jews.

Jesus has to fulfill the role of perfect King on earth, and then the law will be fulfilled, which He will do in the future, and He will rule out of Jerusalem.

Israel is blinded in part, they acknowledge the Old Testament for the most part, but not the New, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in, when salvation is no longer available to them, and so all Israel shall be saved.

It might be kind of hard to reach the Jews concerning the truth of Jesus, for they are blinded in part right now, but in the future God will bring the nation of Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

God said He is going to bring all the Jews out of the nations, and put them on their land, and will not leave any of them in the nations anymore.

Which all of them will be on their land when the man of sin, New Age Christ, establishes peace in the Middle East, which will pave the way for all Jews to go to Israel, which is what the New Age Christ wants, but God means it for good to the Jews.

The thing we need to warn the Jews about is do not take heed to that man in the future who establishes peace in the Middle East, for three and one half years later he will claim to be their God and Messiah, but he is of the occult, and evolution, and people can still evolve, and no personal God, and then deceive the world that does not love God to follow him, and when they take the mark of the beast, which has to do with technology, then the fulness of the Gentiles will have come in, and God will turn the nation of Israel to the truth.

You have brought up a very important point. One reason that Israel is not filled with Messianic Jews is because its against the law in Israel to preach the Gospel. Christian organisations working in or for Israel are allowed and encouraged to give material aid to Israeli citizens but on the condition that they don't proselytize. Most Christians living in Israel are ethnic Palestinians Any Jewish congregation would need to keep a very low profile or face persecution from authorities and Orthodox Jews

Judaism as a whole is anti Christian. This is partly due to persecution down the centuries from those who claimed to be Christian
and to reasons found in the bible. Another reason is that many Evangelicals have a strange ideas about how and when Jews are
supposed to be converted ie wait for the second coming to sort it all out. Meanwhile ignore thousands dying without Christ

My last reason given is probably why the thousands of Jews not living in Israel are left to their own devices coupled with the
notion that Judaism as practiced today somehow pleases God

it is clear that Orthodox Jews are not sitting in our churches and they are the only reason we have salvation. They hold the keys to many spiritual gifts (Matt 23:1-3, Romans 15:17, Romans 11, etc). That is the only reason for this post.

Timothy's Circumcision

Question: Why are we either not reaching this goal of redeeming the Orthodox Jewish Community

I would not be too sure about your belief that no religious Jews are coming to believe Jesus..

Thanks for this, Very informative!

At the same token, God is able to work even n them if they are open. He will show them the way. Like this young lady, And its not works which bring them, it is peoples lives, The sister that came back totally changed because she was a new creature, the friend who took her to church (even though probably not a good church to first experience christian churches) and Gods pulling and leading and guiding.

Yeah even brainiac Jewish scientists..
His Word is powerful like a two edged sword.

That one really touched me, about the mom.. wow!!

Yeah it had me in tears when i first watched it.. Just how powerful and genuine is his testimony

How many non-Jews have been saved compaired to how many of theme there are? Even if a billion are saved there are around 5 billion people in the world. You realize the is only about 15 million of us and over 1 million are SAVED!!!!

So, please explain how I am miss understanding you... Jews have nothing to do with the second coming, it's only the little bit of non-Jews that brings Messiah's return....?

Could both have a part to paly.... even Jews?

They arent reached because they are blinded as a nation until the fullness of the gentiles comes in. We do have plenty of missionaries (jewish and gentile ones) in Israel doing work. GOD BLESS THEM
Thats what I believe. Romans 11:25-26

But as many have said here already: There ARE messianic jews, a ton of them! Thousands got saved during Peter's ministry in the 1st century and throughout the centuries.
So there are plenty of jews saved. Just not the majority as a NATION.