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DarthStav

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RedeemedGift said:
Is it a contradiction? Or is it referring to the special intimacy that the Son has with the Father? Because that's the context of the scripture you're using.
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So I'll flip this around, how can Jesus see the father if he is the father. He is God, so he doesn't need to see himself, does he.
 
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This is the Introductions forum. This biblical discussion belongs in the BIBLE forum..

Welcome to CC. :)
 
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DarthStav said:
So I'll flip this around, how can Jesus see the father if he is the father. He is God, so he doesn't need to see himself, does he.
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That is the confusion of "persons/beings". Jesus is not the person/being of God the Father.

Jesus is a father to his disciples however (Isaiah 9:6; Hebrews 2:13; Isaiah 8:16,18; John 13:33). "God" is a reference to His nature as Deity.

The Son, sits on the "right hand" of the Father on the Throne of Deity.
 
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DarthStav said:
So I'll flip this around, how can Jesus see the father if he is the father. He is God, so he doesn't need to see himself, does he.
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The Son is not the Father, He is God. The Father isn't the Son, but He is God.
 
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DarthStav said:
So I'll flip this around, how can Jesus see the father if he is the father. He is God, so he doesn't need to see himself, does he.
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Jesus is a manifestation of God that came in the flesh.. The three are One.. So God as the Father can look upon Jesus and Jesus can look upon the Father.. No problem..

1 Timothy 3: KJV
16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
 
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DarthStav said:
Hi, I am happy to join in on your spiritual discussion's. I'm a pretty well rounded guy & love to talk about anything. A little history, I lived a Christian lifestyle for about 20 year's but became traumatised by the church I was involved in. I left that church & didn't like the idea of going back to another.

I fell away from reading the Bible & worshipping Jesus, it bothered me that I was slipping away, but the more I fought to keep the faith the harder it became to stay. I won't say that spiritual thing's are completely gone out of my life (Or life itself) But I am happy now, more than I've ever been.

Thing's make so much more sense now than before, I could jump into the sky and never come back down....

Wahoo!
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Hi ! And Welcome here :) .I'm so glad you choosed to follow God .God Bless you.
 
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Magenta said:
Hello DarthStav, yes, I designed that, using elements I sourced from the web, so it is a kind of digital collage that I put together as my welcome message to newcomers. I have made quite a few others as well, other welcome messages, and many templates I have added prayers or Scriptures to, plus things like birthday messages for members here. Thank you for your encouragement, though I am quite content in my current professional occupation :)

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I missed your collages
 
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