Future Sins Are Forgiven Verse

Because it also tells us what faith is.
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. For by it the people of old received their commendation. By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.

It seems you and Ralph are speaking about the same thing. Just using different terminology's. I guess, because it "flows from the tongue" better or more eloquently, in stating a difference between a "belief", verses a "living belief", then it is from "faith", verses a "living faith."

If you know anything about Salvadore Dali's art you'd know you don't want to seek inspiration about God from him.

And 'knowing' about Salvadore Dali, you felt it good to post him on a Christian site?

And 'knowing' about Salvadore Dali, you felt it good to post him on a Christian site?

When did I post him on a Christian site??????

those who are in Christ do not make a habit of sinning.

And if they do, "some people", such as that never knew Christ nor God.

Last time I checked I'm not LaJolla.

In discussing the total forgiveness we have through Jesus Christ, for all sin, it is often brought up that there isn't a verse that explicitly states future sin is forgiven (or the sins committed throughout one's life). They will argue that only past sins before conversion are wiped clean. However, present sin and future sin must be dealt with on an individual basis, an on-going basis (i.e., seeking forgiveness).

Now I have had this discussion with many people and some headway actually was accomplished. Eventually they did concede that such forgiveness didn't have to do with judicial standing before God. They understood and agreed that it is through the blood of Christ that we have obtained forgiveness and Jesus is the propitiation for our sins thereby making us justified before God. Not penance, sin confession, or even repentance (throughout one's life), but the blood of Christ is what justifies us. The Gospel that we believe in, that we are saved by grace through faith. Our righteousness, one of faith. Our standing, by the grace of God and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ (who is risen).

Now, what verse is it that claims all sin is forgiven? What single verse establishes this case? To my delight I was reading Hebrews recently and the verse, I am about to share with you, just worded it so perfectly that it stood out to me.

Hebrews 7:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Please take note of the role of the high priest to deal with daily sin through the offering up of sacrifice. Then notice when speaking of Jesus, our High Priest (eternally, after the order of Melchizedek) the verse says "this He did once, when He offered up Himself." He (Jesus) doesn't do daily sacrifices to deal with our ("daily") sin, but He did this once when He died on the cross.

This represents so clearly how through the blood of Christ we have the remission of sin, of all sin. What does scripture say, of such sin? Where remission of these is there is no more offering for sin (Hebrews 10:18). Forgiveness, total and complete forgiveness is granted to us. We are forgiven. We are justified. A single verse that paints it so beautifully (not to mention to myriad of verses revealing Jesus' role as our High Priest).

1 John 2:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Hebrews 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

No priest of any order could enter into the presence of a holy God without blood. Anyone who would attempt to would die. But it's only at the throne where two things are provided:

1) Mercy (forgiveness)
2) Grace (divine power)

These are believers who are told in Hebrews that they can now go boldly before the throne *in times of need* now that Christ has provided his pure blood once for all.

What need would there be to boldly approach the throne for which to receive forgiveness and divine power?

If all future sins are now forgiven and if grace is but a covering of all sins past, present, future...when are the "times of need"? What is meant by this?

There is no need to approach the throne for mercy (forgiveness) or grace (divine power) if there's no sin to forgive or strive against anymore...but we know sinning still happens. It's still a struggle.

Hebrews 7 explains blood had to be shed daily just to be forgiven. Hebrews 10 explains that after Christ there is no more sacrifice for sin needed, just go boldly before the throne now and ask for forgiveness and the strength to stop sinning (Hebrews 4).

The problem with that graphic is that it is too pretty. Isaiah 53 paints the picture of a Man so scarred that He no longer resembles a human - but rather a piece of meat in a locker.

Last time I checked I'm not LaJolla.

Hey Yahshua. Hebrews 4:16 is contextually about temptation, something that happens before sin occurs. Hence forgiveness wouldn't even be needed. Rather, the grace and mercy are, as the verse suggests, to "help in time of need." What is this time of need? When you are in the midst of temptation. Look at verse 15 before reading 16 (of Hebrews 4).

Hebrews 4:15-16 King James Version (KJV)
15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

I've heard it said when you see "therefore" in a verse to ask, "What is it there for?" It is letting us know that we can do something based upon a previous statement, and what we have above is Jesus as our High Priest who was tempted like as we are, and since He was tempted and without sin He can provide us the mercy and grace we need in resisting temptation.

1 Corinthians 10:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

I don't know how I feel about your insistence of belief. Not that I am suggesting someone can not believe and be saved, but rather a believer believes (by definition). The Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin, righteousness and judgement and it is through God's drawing and conviction that people then repent ("the goodness of God leads to repentance"). So, your idea of striving to believe is a little odd, as if you're making it a work.

The Lord convicts and convinces of the Gospel, and our response is faith. It is like listening to a well articulated argument and then you believe. The effort was on the part of the one putting forth the premises, and we simply are the receptacle of such truth. He has done His work and instilled in us the capacity to believe.

Since it was His work to convict us of such truth, would it not be also His work to retain it? We may run into contradictory statements, even deception, but is it not the Spirit's role to lead us into all truth? So who really gets the credit? The student or the Teacher? We may believe, but who is it that convinces us?

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Of course all sin can be forgiven, and also John said sin not.

If we sin it can be forgiven for the blood of Christ washes it away.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

But if we hold unto sin then there is no sacrifice for that sin, for the blood of Christ cannot wash it away, for God will not take away what we hold unto.

And this is an attitude that sin does not affect their relationship with God, so they enjoy sins and think they are right with God, instead of having the right attitude that sin does affect their relationship with God, and they have to depart from sin led by the Spirit.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

But the Lord knows them that are His having this seal, for this is what seals them, and how they are led of the Spirit, that everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

There is no excuse for not abstaining from sin for the power is there to help us overcome the flesh, and abstain from sin by the Holy Spirit, which if a person hates sin, and does not want sin, by the Spirit they can abstain from sins for they will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, for they have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts, and show the ways of the Spirit, and not the flesh, and God will not allow them to be tempted above what they are able to handle, and will give them an escape from the temptation so they can bear it.

Repenting of your sins means you are sorry for all past sins, and to turn away from sins and hate sin, and do not want sin.

All sin can be forgiven, but if we hold unto sin then it cannot be forgiven for then we violated repenting that caused us to be saved in the first place, by not hating sin, and wanting sin, which we are supposed to give that sinful lifestyle up.

But some people did not have the right perspective of repenting of their sins when they first confessed Christ.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

But there are many people that claim Christ that believe they cannot abstain from sins, and sin daily, and sin does not affect their relationship with God, that enjoy fleshy pleasures, and justify drinking alcohol, and smoking marijuana, and worldliness, loving money and material things for their wants, going above their needs, which Paul said if they preach that God does bless the saints with money and material things for their wants, and not a necessity, withdraw yourselves from them, having food and clothing be content, and loving worldly movies, and television, and music, and taking vacations, and cruises, all the while the poor and needy need help.

Which Paul said he can have all faith as to remove mountains, but if he did not have charity, love in action, then he is nothing.

And James said if they do not have charity then their faith is dead.

And John said if they do not have charity then the love of God does not dwell in them, so do not love in word only, but love in deed and in truth.

Some people say we are not saved by our works when James pointed out caring about the poor and needy, but Paul, James, and John, all say the same thing concerning those works.

And love not the world, or the things in the world, for if anybody loves the world, or the things in the world, the love of the Father is not in them.

These people like to say we cannot abstain from sins, and sin daily, but the Bible says they can abstain from sins by the Spirit, and many hold unto sin, and say sin does not affect their relationship with God, but the Bible says the Lord knows those that are His which is the people that hate sin, and do not want sin, and depart from iniquity.

These people like to believe according to liberty of the flesh, and act like their sins are covered regardless if they hold unto sin or not.

They want to act like all is covered under the blood no matter how they act, and they can enjoy sin and still be right with God.

Which they cannot deny it for they say they cannot abstain from sin, and sin daily, so they testify by their own mouth that they sin and do not cease from sin, but then sin is on their record, and the blood of Christ cannot wash it away, for if they cannot abstain from sin then how can all their sins be forgiven if they can never cease from sins.

Which they are ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth that they have to hate sin, and not want sin, and sin does affect their relationship with God.

Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Mat 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Mat 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

They act as if they are clean inside all the while saying sin does not affect their relationship with God, but Jesus said out of the heart proceeds what really a person is about, so if they sin, or hold unto sin, then that is what is in their heart, then how are they clean inside, and if they say they cannot abstain from sins then how are they clean inside if they are always sinning.

2Pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children.

1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

The Bible says that those that are not right with God cannot cease from sins, which if they say they cannot abstain from sins what does that tell you.

They are fleshy in their interpretation of scriptures.

The world is in trouble for their sins but they can get away with it, which is strange.

Luk 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
Luk 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

If a person confesses Christ, and repents of their sins, it should be a given what that means, and not making excuses for their sins as if they cannot help it, but who twisted their arm to sin.

In discussing the total forgiveness we have through Jesus Christ, for all sin, it is often brought up that there isn't a verse that explicitly states future sin is forgiven (or the sins committed throughout one's life). They will argue that only past sins before conversion are wiped clean. However, present sin and future sin must be dealt with on an individual basis, an on-going basis (i.e., seeking forgiveness).

Now I have had this discussion with many people and some headway actually was accomplished. Eventually they did concede that such forgiveness didn't have to do with judicial standing before God. They understood and agreed that it is through the blood of Christ that we have obtained forgiveness and Jesus is the propitiation for our sins thereby making us justified before God. Not penance, sin confession, or even repentance (throughout one's life), but the blood of Christ is what justifies us. The Gospel that we believe in, that we are saved by grace through faith. Our righteousness, one of faith. Our standing, by the grace of God and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ (who is risen).

Now, what verse is it that claims all sin is forgiven? What single verse establishes this case? To my delight I was reading Hebrews recently and the verse, I am about to share with you, just worded it so perfectly that it stood out to me.

Hebrews 7:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Please take note of the role of the high priest to deal with daily sin through the offering up of sacrifice. Then notice when speaking of Jesus, our High Priest (eternally, after the order of Melchizedek) the verse says "this He did once, when He offered up Himself." He (Jesus) doesn't do daily sacrifices to deal with our ("daily") sin, but He did this once when He died on the cross.

This represents so clearly how through the blood of Christ we have the remission of sin, of all sin. What does scripture say, of such sin? Where remission of these is there is no more offering for sin (Hebrews 10:18). Forgiveness, total and complete forgiveness is granted to us. We are forgiven. We are justified. A single verse that paints it so beautifully (not to mention to myriad of verses revealing Jesus' role as our High Priest).

1 John 2:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Hebrews 7:27: Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

In the Old Testament times the high priests made sacrifices daily for the sins of the people. This verse says that Jesus only needed to make one sacrifice one time for sin. He did not need to keep dying every day or multiple times.

Here is how I believe: When a person puts their faith in Jesus Christ, their past sins are forgiven because of/through the blood of Christ. For the believer in Christ, any sins they commit on a daily basis are also forgiven because of the blood of Christ. Forgiveness is because of the blood of Christ, not because the believer does enough penance or is sufficiently sorry.

Here is the OP's commentary on the verse:
Please take note of the role of the high priest to deal with daily sin through the offering up of sacrifice. Then notice when speaking of Jesus, our High Priest (eternally, after the order of Melchizedek) the verse says "this He did once, when He offered up Himself." He (Jesus) doesn't do daily sacrifices to deal with our ("daily") sin, but He did this once when He died on the cross.
This represents so clearly how through the blood of Christ we have the remission of sin, of all sin. What does scripture say, of such sin? Where remission of these is there is no more offering for sin (Hebrews 10:18). Forgiveness, total and complete forgiveness is granted to us. We are forgiven. We are justified. A single verse that paints it so beautifully (not to mention to myriad of verses revealing Jesus' role as our High Priest).

What I find intriguing is that I think I pretty much agree with what is said in those paragraphs of commentary. I might say it differently, but have no problem agreeing with what is written. Yet I find nothing in the verse given nor in the commentary written that says future sins of a person are automatically and completely forgiven at the moment that a person puts their faith in Christ.

The provision is made and the sacrifice is complete. All who believe are forgiven.