Not By Works

Still secure in my eternal life that Jesus has given me by grace through faith with no religious hoops, strings, rigmarole attached.....

It pleased God, by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

To a worker for, Cainologist and or Pharisee it is foolish that we can just believe and be saved.....the flip side of the coin-->those who know the truth know it is foolish to believe works have any bearing on gaining eternal salvation/life by grace through faith......!!!

Amen Brother...The more I read the Word , the more I realize that we can only forever approach God through our LORD Jesus Christ with empty hands...
I went a few months thinking how good I had been , not realising that every day I commit a sin , you know the unseen ones , and then bam , the rug was pulled from under my feet , again I was humbled , and was taught a lesson , God is now in control of my life , no matter how good I think I am , I came above my station , kind of a proudful head , and then I was brought low again and coming to my LORD once again with empty hands , and that is how it is...

The good works that follow are the works from the Holy Spirit , it is He who directs our paths...Tell me something please , anyone , what makes a person believe that they need works , i understand the Catholic ways , but people who claim they are Christians and read the same Scriptures we read , why does some people get By grace we are saved , not by works lest anyone should boast , why do they have to add to it , why don`t they see what we see ,?...We all have the Holy Spirit , yet the Holy Spirit is showing one thing to one side , and the workers another , no that cannot be , God is not a God of confusion , so obviously the side that add works are confused yet they do not see it , why ?...xox...

When I use the check mark from me it says amen. The button they forgot when they designed this site.

If you want me to Suggest a very good BIBLE TEACHER, my suggestion would be Dr. John MacArthur

You are right, there is no AMEN button. If your Salvation was REAL, this time, you will notice a HUNGER FOR THE WORD OF GOD, and regularly, preferably, FEED on that word every Day. If you want me to Suggest a very good BIBLE TEACHER, my suggestion would be Dr. John MacArthur, and the Series of Sermons that was my Spiritual Milk, was his Verse by Verse all the way Through the Book of Revelation.

Here is that series that was my Spiritual Milk:
https://www.gty.org/library/resources/sermons-library/scripture/1?book=66&chapter=0

If you are faithful, your Born Again Human Spirit will grow in understanding, LEAPS and BOUNDS. KEEP up the Bibles Studies, and He will USE YOU some day in the work of the Ministry. God is the Author of Poetic Justice, so do not be surprised if HE puts it on your HEART to be involved in witnessing to AIDs patients. Praise the Lord. Remember, MEET A REAL NEED first and He will open the Door to Witnessing in LOVE, after you meet a real need.

You will know that you have a DEEPER LOVE for the Brethren, too.

Magenta, I notice that we are BOTH Senior Members, . . . . . . . and I have to wonder, what is the next step in seniority process?
. . . . . . . Perhaps, "One Foot In The Grave".

Let me bring to your attention that MacArthur has said you can take the mark of the beast and still be saved, which is a very serious blunder to make. It was a Q&A session where someone asked if you can still be saved after taking the mark of the beast and he said yes and rambled on. As people caught wind of this and made all kinds of videos exposing him teaching falsehoods his follower Phil Johnson posted an article about the controversy, which you can read HERE and as you can see, they are teaching the same falsehood and babble on in this "correction" article.


To add insult to injury, johnny is a calvinist.

Revelation 2:14, "But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality."

Revelation 2:20, "But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols."

Revelation 1:10-11, "1:10, "I came to be in the Spirit on the Day of יהוה,a and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying, “I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the First and the Last,” and, “Write in a book what you see and send it to the seven assemblies of Asia – to Ephesos, and to Smurna, and to Pergamos, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodikeia.”

Revelation 2:1-3, “To the messenger of the assembly of Ephesos write, ‘He who is holding the seven stars in His right hand, who is walking in the midst of the seven golden lampstands, says this: “I know your works, and your labour, and your endurance, and that you are not able to bear evil ones, and have tried those who say they are emissaries and are not, and have found them false; and you have been bearing up and have endurance, and have labored for My Name’s sake and have not become weary.”

A.T.
19:1-9
1:15-18

God rebukes the churches in Pergamos and Thyatira for Immorality.

Revelation 2:14-16
14 But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality. 15 Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. 16 Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.

Revelation 2:20
20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.

In these passages, God warns of eating meat sacrificed to idols, but it is discussed in a different context than merely buying the meat in a market, as the gentiles would.
It was the Pagans who sacrificed animals to a so called god, not gentile belivers.

Instead, these churches that Jesus addresses had members who were violating the very principle that Paul and the book of Acts warned against: they were actually engaging in pagan feasts themselves, which involved meat sacrifice and sexual orgies.

God references Balaam and Jezebel–names of individuals from the Old Testament who led Israelites into idolatry.

The Jerusalem council sent Paul and Barnabas to the gentiles with the following directives.
Acts 15:29

29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.
Farewell. (side note, nothing here about being cirumcised)

Pagan feasts involved meat sacrifice and sexual orgies.

The reason for the directive was because the gentiles would have been aware of this and may have even participated themselves.

the Gentiles needed some basic guidance to prevent them from returning to the pagan system

The Jews would have known this as well, hence the angst between the early church.

But the truth is the gentiles in the church who were but pagan, were belivers purchased the meat to eat as it was cheap leftovers.

God rebukes two churches for engaging in these idolatrous feasts, which included indulging in the sacrificed meat and engaging in fornication.

Jerusalem council

Acts 15:6-11

The Jerusalem Council
6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. 7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, 9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”

Let me bring to your attention that MacArthur has said you can take the mark of the beast and still be saved, which is a very serious blunder to make. It was a Q&A session where someone asked if you can still be saved after taking the mark of the beast and he said yes and rambled on. As people caught wind of this and made all kinds of videos exposing him teaching falsehoods his follower Phil Johnson posted an article about the controversy, which you can read HERE and as you can see, they are teaching the same falsehood and babble on in this "correction" article.


To add insult to injury, johnny is a calvinist.

Well, I have listened to the ENTIRE SERIES at LEAST FOUR TIME, and I Have NEVER HEARD HIM MAKE SUCH A STATEMENT, so unless you can prove it, it is JUST ANOTHER FAKE NEWS REPORT.

The ONLY UNPARDONABLE SIN IS BLASPHEMING THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHICH IS REJECTING WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS TRYING TO PUT ON YOUR HEART TO BELIEF ABOUT JESUS.

READ THE REST OF IT.

Magenta, I notice that we are BOTH Senior Members, . . . . . . . and I have to wonder, what is the next step in seniority process?
. . . . . . . Perhaps, "One Foot In The Grave".

So are you saying that it is ok to "eat meat sacrificed to idols" as long as it is not done while having a sexual orgy?

I think both, either done alone or togather are not permissable.

It is not ok to eat meat sacrified to idols.. According to the Messiah:

Revelation 2:14, "But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality."

Revelation 2:20, "But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols."

are you really claiming that it is ok? To kill an animal in sacrifice to a pagan idol and eat it?

The Most High says to not even make or have idols... it is the 2nd Commandment...

Exodus 20:4-6,4 “You do not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of that which is in the heavens above, or which is in the earth beneath, or which is in the waters under the earth,"5 you do not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, יהוה your Elohim am a jealous Ěl, visiting the crookedness of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,"6 but showing loving-commitment to thousands, to those who love Me and guard My commands."

So what? I ONLY agree with 3 Points of that Calvinist issue, so BOTH SIDES OF THE DEAD ARGUMENT REJECT ME.

I am HAPPY that both ARMENIANS and CALVINIST cannot hang there TITLE on ME. They can ONLY call me CHRISTIAN.

I'm confused... Why a sad face when I said meat sacrificed to idols and/or sexual perversion are wrong?

I'm confused... Why a sad face when I said meat sacrificed to idols and/or sexual perversion are wrong?