I apologize if I seem to be stringing things along, I wondered about this from the way you worded things in post #64 and was asking as to Eve being separated from Adam before or after he was placed in Eden/paradise/third heaven ect.. ,see Ezekiel 28:12-13,Luke 23:43,2 Corinthians 12:3-4 Revelation 2:7,Revelation 22:1-3 and then examine the events of Revelation chapter 12.
I apologize if this seems to be a short answer but another member has brought up Ezekiel 28(i thought you would) and i am curious as to how the other members will view the exact timing of Satan's casting out and tying to not say things that would lead to an oppinion but rather see how they form their own oppinions(I appologize if it seems odd,lol).
OK, now worries, I wass unsure of what you were saying be, I understand now.
OK so
I beleive Ez 28 is speaking of satan not Adam, as
Adam was naked and never had
v13 "Every precious stone was your covering: the ruby, topaz, and diamond, beryl, shoham, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald and gold"
Adam is a human not a kerub/cherub
v14
You were the anointed keruḇ that covered. And I placed you, you were on the set-apart mountain of Yah"
and Adam was never :thrown to earth"
v17 “Your heart was lifted up because of your loveliness, you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendour. I threw you to the earth, I laid you before sovereigns, to look at you."
Ibelieve this passge changes meaning due to COMMA placement:
I believe due to doctrine of the entire word this is correct:
Luke 23:43; 2
(23:43) And יהושע said to him, “
Truly, I say to you today, you shall be with Me in paradise.”
I believe due to doctrine of the entire word thsi is not correct for it would contradict every other passge concening this topic
Luke 23:43; 2
(23:43) And יהושע said to him, “Truly, I say to you
, today you shall be with Me in paradise.”
This one was vision/in the spirit by Paul's own words:
2 Corinthians 12:1-4,1 To boast, indeed, is useless for me, for
I shall go on to visions and revelations of יהוה."2 I know a man in Messiah who
fourteen years ago – whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, Elohim knows – such a one was caught up to the third heaven."3 And I know such a man – whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, Elohim knows –"4 that he was caught up into paradisea and heard unspeakable words, which it is not right for a man to speak. Footnote: aLit. garden."
Rev 2:7 is those who enter: Revelation 22:14
Revelation 22:1-3 is those who enter, Zechariah 14 If I remeber correctly...
Rev 12 I have studied many many times, there is a lot there...