BIBLE VERSES EXPLAINING SOME TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

Well I am not into all that stuff, I do agree that the internet trolls and the provocateurs have inflamed emotions and created paranoia.

However the the pope is a false position, no he is not the successor of Peter that is not what Jesus was teaching.

Well non-denominationalism is still better that a huge self-serving institution/organization that really has no resemblance to first century Christianity in creed or practice.

I believe this link is not Lie, I am not investigate one by one, but I Google about pope innocen III from catholic source

I quote part of It to make this posting short

Who am I and of what lineage that I should take my place above kings? For to me it is said in the prophets, ‘I have this day set thee over nations and over the kingdoms, to root out and pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build and to plant.’ To me it is said in the apostles, ‘I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.’ The successor of St. Peter is the Vicar of Christ; he has been established as mediator between God and man, below God but beyond man; less than God but more than man; who shall judge all and be judged by no one.
From his other writings it is clear that Innocent III understood the preeminence of the spiritual over the temporal, including the predominance of the Church over the State. For example, in his letter to King John Lackland of England he writes, “Jesus Christ wills that the kingdom should be priestly, and the priesthood kingly. Over all, he has set me as his vicar upon earth, so that, as before Jesus ‘every knee shall bow,’ in like manner to his vicar all shall be obedient, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd. Pondering this truth, thou, as a secular prince, has subjected thy realm to Him to whom all is spiritually subject.”

http://catholicism.org/pope-innocent-iii-and-the-marks-of-a-great-papacy.html

Pope ask question why he above the King, It was king equal to law. Above king mean above law.

Basically It inline with what in the link, He believe he is vicar of Christ or represent Christ oN eart,

And we know Christ rule all King oN earth that mean he believe he represent Christ to rule all the King oN earth, to me this is the consept of one world government

It is cover up but If you carefully investigate, you see the real agenda.

I believe this link is not Lie, I am not investigate one by not but I Google about pope innocen III from catholic source

I quote part of It to make this posting short

Who am I and of what lineage that I should take my place above kings? For to me it is said in the prophets, ‘I have this day set thee over nations and over the kingdoms, to root out and pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build and to plant.’ To me it is said in the apostles, ‘I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.’ The successor of St. Peter is the Vicar of Christ; he has been established as mediator between God and man, below God but beyond man; less than God but more than man; who shall judge all and be judged by no one.
From his other writings it is clear that Innocent III understood the preeminence of the spiritual over the temporal, including the predominance of the Church over the State. For example, in his letter to King John Lackland of England he writes, “Jesus Christ wills that the kingdom should be priestly, and the priesthood kingly. Over all, he has set me as his vicar upon earth, so that, as before Jesus ‘every knee shall bow,’ in like manner to his vicar all shall be obedient, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd. Pondering this truth, thou, as a secular prince, has subjected thy realm to Him to whom all is spiritually subject.”

http://catholicism.org/pope-innocent-iii-and-the-marks-of-a-great-papacy.html
Pope ask question why he above the King, It was king equal to law. Above king mean above law.

Basically It inline with what in the link, He believe he is vicar of Christ or represent Christ oN eart,

And we know Christ rule all King oN earth that mean he believe he represent Christ to rule all the King oN earth, to me this is the consept of one world government

It is cover up but If you carefully investigate, you see the real agenda.
My brother, catholic may help a Lot of poor, the question is is she teach the real gospel?

The real gospel say Abraham God declare Jesus is God.

Catholic teach islam God is Abraham God, mean agree that Jesus is only prophet.

That is Lie teaching.

You can give a million dollar to each poor, but If you not give them the real teaching of Jesus Christ, they go to hell forever

Which is greater charity give million dollar to make them temporary rich oN the earth for 100 year than die and go to hell for million years. Or not give a cent, but give the real teaching of Jesus than go to heaven, Richter than earthly King for million year?

To me give real gospel is more charity than give million dollar.

As I have been saying to Epostle the whole time, and now apparently must repeat to you, when someone criticizes the Catholic "church", it is invalid, inappropriate, and ineffective to point fingers at the Protestants in response.

It is the equivalent of a child in trouble insisting "But they did it too; why aren't you punishing them?" What the other children did is irrelevant. What the Protestants have done is irrelevant. If you want to defend the Catholic "church", don't point fingers at others, period.

As to what "you guys and your mentors" do, that is also irrelevant. I speak for myself. I don't care for being lumped together with others with whom I may not agree.

God has always evangelized this lost world by the witness of individual saints. Organized religious empire like Rome are too self sufficient to be use of God. Catholic will never forgive protestants for abandoning the mother of all churches.

The devil loves the Roman catholic church for creating a false sense of righteousness. Righteousness created by superstitions and rites that only they are able to perform.

Jesus condemned the Pharisees because they did the same false worship and false piety.

I would love to see the pope get saved and begin to preach the gospel according the bible as did the apostles and many evangelicals over the centuries. The same evangelists that Rome hunted down and burned at the stake.

So many precious souls in the catholic church that are dying for lack of knowledge of the Savior.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

The Pope is a better man than you.

How do you know he's not saved? That's a typical response from a self-righteous Protestant numbskull. You don't have the authority to condemn anyone. He's a child of God and so are many Catholic's. They have their rightful place in the body of Christ. Had it not been for the Catholics and Charles Martel, all of Europe would have fallen to Islam in the 8TH century.

I don't like badmouthing any Church, but the Protestant's pride themselves on it. They love to show the world all of the problems in every sect of Christianity. The Fundamentalist and Calvinist are the most offensive self-righteous bunch in all of Christianity. They've done more to divide the Church and alienate people from Christ than any other group. And you're following in their footsteps....

...and that's the way the devils want it!

The pope is not a man of God. He is a man of the church. No man of God could teach the heinous doctrines of the Catholic church and be a born again Christian. I find it quite revealing the catholic church does not teach that even their popes are certain of heaven. They teach that they will spend only a minimal amount of time in purgatory. No catholic is allowed to know with certainty that they are going to heaven. They may only hope against hope that they have acquired sufficient grace through the sacraments to have their good out weigh their evil.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

"Vicar" means servant, ambassador. It does not mean "dominating dictator". You read INTO things whatever you want. Here is an example of your inability for context.

The actions of this vigorous pope were complicated and involved. Thus, I will briefly touch upon one or two examples from each of the following general areas of concern: How he dealt with powerful worldly powers; when necessary, how he corrected their immorality; how he suppressed heresies; how he maintained internal Church discipline, affirmed and asserted Church teaching; and how he opposed the aggression of Islam.
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As we observed from his inaugural sermon quoted above, the young pope clearly understood his responsibility and the greatness of the task ahead of him. He recognized that his most immediate concerns were to free Rome and the Papal States from rival factions, to emancipate Italy from German domination, to pursue the Crusade against the Muslim invaders, to cleanse the West of heresy, and to maintain the victories of his predecessors over the temporal powers.
http://catholicism.org/pope-innocent-iii-and-the-marks-of-a-great-papacy.html

I don't argue with anti-Catholic bigots who refuse every possible explanation there is...repeatedly AND TWIST EVERYTHING IN SIGHT. I've given you enough chances to stop your persecution. You went on and on and on about the Pope and Muslims. I spent a lot of time post space to wake you up from your pope/muslim spell, so what do you do??? You change the subject like every anti-Catholic does when they get corrected or refuted. Everything that is true in your fundie cult came from the Catholic Church. If she is wrong, then so are you. Tomorrow or next week, you will fall under the Pope/Muslim spell again, and ignore everything I explained to you. I can't give reading lessons in a forum. You are a waste of my time.

Here a question for you. Do we need a man as that seen to teach us?

Bad mouthing or speaking God's truth according as it is written and in love expose the wiles of the devil. Catholicism simply has another gospel, another christ that they call a Pope and the scripture identifies as a daysman ?

Should other Christians ignore that in exchange for a false peace ?

Origin of vicar
1250–1300; Middle English < Anglo-French vicare; Old French vicaire < Latinvicārius a substitute, noun use of adj.; see vicarious
Related formsvic·ar·ship, nounsub·vic·ar, nounsub·vic·ar·ship, nounun·der·vic·ar, noun

Vicar mean substitute

Definition of substitute

sub·sti·tute
ˈsəbstəˌto͞ot/
noun

1. 1.
   a person or thing acting or serving in place of another.
   "soy milk is used as a substitute for dairy milk"
   synonyms:replacement, deputy, relief, proxy, reserve, surrogate, cover, stand-in, locum (tenens), understudy; More
   
   

verb

1. 1.
   use or add in place of.
   "dried rosemary can be substituted for the fresh herb"
   synonyms:exchange, replace, use instead of, use as an alternative to, use in place of, swap
   "cottage cheese can be substituted for yogurt

"Vicar" means servant, ambassador. It does not mean "dominating dictator". You read INTO things whatever you want. Here is an example of your inability for context.


Christ the Holy anointing Spirit of God is our Victor, do we need two? One not seen as the things of God, another seen like Peter as the things of men ?

I would suggest no man can serve two teaching masters . (1) They will love the thing of God not seen(the faith principle) and hate the things men seen (walking by sight) . (2) or love the things of men(walking by sight) seen and hate the things of God not seen (the faith principle .

Which teaching master will you follow today? Men in purple, or God in red

Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Mathew 16:22-23

"Vicar" means servant, ambassador. It does not mean "dominating dictator". THE GOSPEL IS PREACHED AT EVERY MASS.

The actions of this vigorous pope were complicated and involved. Thus, I will briefly touch upon one or two examples from each of the following general areas of concern: How he dealt with powerful worldly powers; when necessary, how he corrected their immorality; how he suppressed heresies; how he maintained internal Church discipline, affirmed and asserted Church teaching; and how he opposed the aggression of Islam.
and
As we observed from his inaugural sermon quoted above, the young pope clearly understood his responsibility and the greatness of the task ahead of him. He recognized that his most immediate concerns were to free Rome and the Papal States from rival factions, to emancipate Italy from German domination, to pursue the Crusade against the Muslim invaders, to cleanse the West of heresy, and to maintain the victories of his predecessors over the temporal powers.
http://catholicism.org/pope-innocent-iii-and-the-marks-of-a-great-papacy.html
That contradicts you agenda of Catholic hate. I think your biggest problem is you take on things that are above your reading level. You see things that are not there and then you bug me about it over and over again.
From his other writings it is clear that Innocent III understood the preeminence of the spiritual over the temporal, including the predominance of the Church over the State.
You missed that out of blindness or poor reading.

The actions of this vigorous pope were complicated and involved. Thus, I will briefly touch upon one or two examples from each of the following general areas of concern:

• How he dealt with powerful worldly powers;
• when necessary, how he corrected their immorality;
• how he suppressed heresies;
• how he maintained internal Church discipline,
• affirmed and asserted Church teaching;
• and how he opposed the aggression of Islam.

Miss that too??? Which is it, Jackson??? Blindness or poor reading???

I've given you enough chances to stop your persecution. You went on and on and on about the Pope and Muslims. I spent a lot of time and post space to wake you up from your pope/muslim spell, so what do you do??? You change the subject like every anti-Catholic does when they get corrected or refuted. Everything that is true in your fundie cult came from the Catholic Church. If she is wrong, then so are you. Tomorrow or next week, you will fall under the Pope/Muslim spell again, and ignore everything I explained to you. I can't give reading lessons in a forum.STOP FEEDING OFF THAT ANTI-CATHOLIC POOP (like those fake documents written by "Bible Christian hate cults) IT WILL ROT YOUR MIND.

So vicar mean Actinobacteria AS or represent

Pope akting AS Christ oN earth, mean Actinobacteria AS King that rule all King oN earth.

Read onces again this quote. This quote is from catholic.org, not protestant

Who am I and of what lineage that I should take my place above kings? For to me it is said in the prophets, ‘I have this day set thee over nations and over the kingdoms, to root out and pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build and to plant.’ To me it is said in the apostles, ‘I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.’ The successor of St. Peter is the Vicar of Christ; he has been established as mediator between God and man, below God but beyond man; less than God but more than man; who shall judge all and be judged by no one.

Pope innocent (not protestant. ) ask who am I ....that I should take my place above kings



Kings plural. Yes If he act AS Jesus, he is above all kings

Let me remind you one more time, this is pope own word, not protestant Lie to you.

Check the link, It is catholic link.

Than pope say, for to me It is Said in the prophets, I have this day over nations and over the kingdoms

So basically pope defined vicar literally mean act AS Jesus AS the King of King.

He believe he is over/above nations and above kingdoms (plural)

Yes Jesus above all nations and kingdoms.

Than pope (not protestant or anti catholic ) say


The successor of St. Peter is the Vicar of Christ; he has been established as mediator between God and man, below God but beyond man; less than God but more than man; who shall judge all and be judged by no one.

Below God but more /above man who shall judge all( all mean all man include all King, because No except ion in this statement )

In the history, King is also the higest judge, act tell the story of Paul, he was judge by governur but he not satisfied and request to higher court to a Caesar that is equal to King.

Pope judge all but judge by No one, mean he realy think AS representative of Christ oN earth that rule all King

To me this believe is the seed of one world government

Base of what pope innicent statement above, vicar mean what original mean (acting oN behalf)
You are entitle to disagree with my analysis, but please give me a reason why my analysis wrong. Be my teacher, show me why my analysis wrong.

Did not hear the gospel once in twenty years of religious education in elementary school, high school or during church.

That's the problem. Everybody seems to think they have the truth. There is heresy in every church and very few of them are damnable. You demonize and condemn others in the faith and that makes you an enemy of Christ.

The gospel taught in Catholicism is the same gospel taught by Protestants. It's the Protestant's who deceive people by making them think the way you do. You listen to their cunning badmouthing garbage and you fall for it. Ultimately it does nothing for the cause of Christ.

"Protestants build themselves up by condemning and putting others down in the faith."

On the first page of "The Christian Expositor" it says that their site exposes all the problems in the church. Why are Christians so bent on bringing to light what they THINK is wrong with everyone else in the faith? I know why their bent on it! It's what the devil wants them to do! Demonize one another!

You have been well indoctrinated and deceived by Catholic demonizers like John MacArthur and the host of others who follow in those footsteps.

I did not hear the gospel once, are you or were you Catholic?

What kind of numbskull reply is that?

What many don't realize is that had it not been for their Catholic upbringing many would likely be unbelievers or Atheist today. Catholic school was a blessing to me.

I believe you're not being honest. Just badmouthing like all the rest!

That is just silly, go to any Catholic Church this Sunday and if you know the Gospel then you come back and tell me if you heard it.

They do not accept it and therefore do not teach it.

Even when I was a young Catholic and people spoke about all of its persecutions, wealth and abuse at least I knew enough to keep my mouth shut and not defend what was indefensible.