Not By Works

Amen! “Perfect” in Job 1:8 does not mean that Job was sinless, without fault of defect, flawless, 100% of the time. JJob had admitted his human sinfulness (Job 7:21; 13:26).

The word "perfect" which in Hebrew is "tam" does not necessarily imply absolute sinlessness. It signifies, rather, completeness, integrity, sincerity, but in a relative sense. The Hebrew term tam is equivalent to the Greek teleios, which is often translated perfect in the NT but which is better translated "full grown" or "mature.”

The Bible does not say that Zacharias and Elisabeth were sinless but rather blameless. They accepted God's way and sought to live by it, but without FAITH, they could not be considered blameless by committing theirselves to walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord.

In regards to man being sinless:

Ecclesiastes 7:20 - For there is not a just man on earth who does good and does not sin.

Romans 3:23 - ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

Very useful, thank you for elaborating and putting it in the wider context of other scriptures.
You have great patience.

No, Jesus taught that the Jews religion "Taught for Doctrines the Commandments of MEN".

11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

The Jews were still pushing the Pharisees version of God's Laws which Jesus said they corrupted. They didn't eat with gentiles, couldn't take a walk and eat a strawberry on the Sabbath, couldn't help a brother in need on the Sabbath and believed if a person didn't cut the skin off their private parts and follow their version of "The Law of Moses" including the Levitical "Works of the Law" for remission of sins, God wouldn't accept them.

Peer pressure is a big deal sometimes and even Peter was carried away with the Mainstream Preachers and the religious doctrines and traditions of their time.

Paul explains;

Rom. 2:
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25 For circumcision (being a Jew) verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. (Gentile)
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision (Gentile) keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? (Jew)
27 And shall not uncircumcision (Gentile) which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

I understand how much of God's Word offends you G9. I am truly sorry.

John 8:
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

These are the Word's of the Christ that you hate so much. It's not to late to repent and turn to Him.

Luke 23:
40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

This thief most certainly knew who Jesus was before that moment. If you want to use this verse to tell tales about others, it is your work. Maybe your Jesus inspired you to do such things, but the Word which became Flesh, the Messiah of the Bible, actually teaches against such things.

Acts 15:
4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

Jesus said the Pharisees were liars and Hypocrites and that they omitted important parts of His Commandments.

Matthew 23: 4 For they (Pharisees, not God) bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

You can preach that the Pharisees were all the sudden loyal and obedient to God after they killed Him if you like. Maybe your Jesus inspires this in you.

But the Word which became Flesh, the Messiah of the Bible, teaches the opposite of them and Peter knew it.

Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke (heavy burdens of the Pharisees) upon the neck (Shoulders) of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

It is the Christ and His Prophets that says the Mainstream preachers of their time corrupted God's Words, I just believe what they say, I don't judge Him as untrue as do you.

Jer. 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

Jer. 5:
30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;
31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Matt. 15:
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men (Not God)

So as is your custom, you rail against God through those who simply post His Words. I might remind you that He is the only way to Eternity. Your rejection of Him and His Word's will lead to no good thing G9.

2 Peter 3:9, “יהוה is not slow in regard to the promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward us, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”

Do you realize you ignored what Paul himself said? Peter lived himself lived like a Gentile, but he was showing preference to the Jews.

This was not in step with the gospel. Because the Jews by birth didn’t even live by the Law. So why cause the Gentiles to want to be like Jews?

The lawyers, legalists, workers for and Pharisees will always ignore most of Paul's writings.....just saying......

You seem to know Paul and his writings well, I have a question to you about somethign Paul said:

Was Peter the apostle to the Gentiles or Paul?

Matthew 28:19-20, “Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you each and every day until the end of the age.”

“nations” is word #G1484 ἔθνος ethnos (eth'-nos) n., 1. a race (as of the same habit), i.e. a tribe., 2. (specially) a foreign (non-Jewish) one, Gentiles., 3. (usually, by implication) pagan., [probably from G1486], KJV: Gentile, heathen, nation, people, Root(s): G1486

Yet Paul says Peter was sent to the Jews:

Galatians 2:7-8, “In fact, they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel for the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel for the circumcised. For the one who worked through Peter by making him an apostle to the circumcised also worked through me by sending me to the Gentiles.”

However Peter says he was sent to the Gentiles:

Acts 15:6-7, “So the apostles and the elders met to consider this statement. After a lengthy debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God chose me to be the one among you through whom the Gentiles would hear the message of the gospel and believe."

1Timothy 2:7, "For this reason I was appointed to be an announcer, an apostle, and a faithful and true teacher of the gentiles. (I am telling you the truth. I am not lying.)"

Paul says he is not lying, but before 1 Tim was written Peter said he was sent to the Gentiles and Acts 10 confirms this:

Acts 10:
26 But Kĕpha raised him up, saying, “Stand up, I myself am also a man.”"
27 And talking with him, he went in and found many who had come together."
28 And he said to them, “You know that a Yehuḏi man is not alloweda to associate with, or go to one of another race. But the Mighty One has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean.”

Under the NEW COVENANT there is NEITHER JEW nor GENTILE, but rather the TWO have BECOME ONE and are altogether a NEW CREATION in Christ JESUS!

In Corinth Paul decided to go to the Gentiles.

Acts 18:6 And when they opposed and reviled him, he shook out his garments and said to them, “Your blood be on your own heads! I am innocent. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.”

7And having departed from there, he came to the house of a certain one named Titius Justus, worshiping God, whose house was adjoining the synagogue. 8And Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed in the Lord, with his all household. And many of the Corinthians hearing believed and were baptized.

I would agree with this statement. However when carrying a message to those who do not know the Messiah, them being Gentiles at that time, the word would have to be brought to Gentiles. After I saw that you posted I wanted to ask you the same as I asked Cee, about my last post. What do you think?

SO was Peter wrong or something when he said:

Acts 15:6-7, “So the apostles and the elders met to consider this statement. After a lengthy debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God chose me to be the one among you through whom the Gentiles would hear the message of the gospel and believe."

Paul was specifically sent to the Gentiles, Peter was used for both.........

OK thank you for the answer. According to what is written it seems likely.

No. But that's interesting. Peter was the first to proclaim to the Gentiles though. Notice I answered you, Paul decided to go. Because it doesn't say Paul was sent to them. At least not in Acts 18. He said, I will go.

However elsewhere God says he will go before Kings... and Gentiles.

Matt 10:18 and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, to bear witness before them and the Gentiles.

Thank you for the reply and that brings this to mind: even though in Mat 10 Yahshua/Jesus was speaking to the 12 is this appiled to the 12, the 12 and Paul, only Paul?

Peter proclaimed God to the Gentiles before Paul came on the scene in Acts 10.

44While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. 45And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.

Yes I said that in my original post quote : "Peter said he was sent to the Gentiles and Acts 10 confirms this"

You're right. I quickly quoted the wrong Scripture. This is the one I mean to quote:

Acts 9:15 But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel.

I've noticed this myself. It seems many times they just gloss right over his writings. And quote some other Scripture.