Biblical demonology
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I'm not offended, just that I get touchy about what people think is either mental illness or demons afflicting homeless, when often it's neither. I know what you mean about false spiritual leaders putting the blame on demons when it's really mental illness. I see it all the time too, and I work to expose it. I pray that all Christians be able to tell the difference. That's one of the Spirit gifts, discerning of spirits.
I knew a homeless woman here who claimed she was possessed by multiple demons because a pastor told her so. She went through many 'casting-outs', but it did no good, until she finally got proper medical and psych help. She had schizophrenia, real bad, and other things. A year later she's pretty much ok now, with meds.
But I know another person who was diagnosed with various disorders, and all he really needed was Jesus, prayer, and some help working some money problems out, and once he got that and off the meds he was fine. There are 'quacks' all over the place, preachers, psychiatrists, charlatans. People are just so quick to label some one as demon possessed or having mental illness.
I knew a homeless woman here who claimed she was possessed by multiple demons because a pastor told her so. She went through many 'casting-outs', but it did no good, until she finally got proper medical and psych help. She had schizophrenia, real bad, and other things. A year later she's pretty much ok now, with meds.
But I know another person who was diagnosed with various disorders, and all he really needed was Jesus, prayer, and some help working some money problems out, and once he got that and off the meds he was fine. There are 'quacks' all over the place, preachers, psychiatrists, charlatans. People are just so quick to label some one as demon possessed or having mental illness.
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The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɪˌlɪm/ (Hebrew: נְפִילִים, nefilim) were the offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge, according to Genesis 6:1–4.
A similar or identical biblical Hebrew term, read as "Nephilim" by some scholars, or as the word "fallen" by others, appears in Ezekiel 32:27.[1][2]
When people began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that they were fair; and they took wives for themselves of all that they chose. Then the Lord said, “My spirit shall not abide in mortals forever, for they are flesh; their days shall be one hundred twenty years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went in to the daughters of humans, who bore children to them. These were the heroes that were of old, warriors of renown.
The word is loosely translated as giants in some Bibles and left untranslated in others. The "sons of God" have been interpreted to be fallen angels according to some classical Judaic explanations.According to Numbers 13:33, they later inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan.
I think archiologists have found huge bones of these giants...
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I also think "demons" can take many forms such as angels..just like satan can take on many forms...in the firm of booze to an amcoholic..in the form of meth to a drug adict..in the form of a prostitute or porn to someone who struggles with sexual perversion..in the form of chocolate to an obese person..in the form of money to a greedy person..n the form of false piotiy or self righteousness to the christian striving to live a life for Christ..etc...Jesus cast out many demons...
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"Jewel5712, post: 3661962, member: 271742"]I also think "demons" can take many forms such as angels..just like satan can take on many forms...in the firm of booze to an amcoholic..in the form of meth to a drug adict..in the form of a prostitute or porn to someone who struggles with sexual perversion..in the form of chocolate to an obese person..in the form of money to a greedy person..n the form of false piotiy or self righteousness to the christian striving to live a life for Christ..etc...Jesus cast out many demons...[/QUOTE]
I didn't feel it necessary to press reply to everything you have just said but people can read them rather taking uo all of that space again. so I will reply in order.
They have found bones of giants in many places. 3 off of the top of my head were Santa Catalina Island near Los Angeles, in central Nevada I believe on Piute indian land and at flower mound Ok.
The second post that I reply to isabout the two most common usages of the word demon, both noun and pro-noun. I have studied what is commonly called 'Dual Diagnosis' for years, not as a phd or md but merely as a counselor. It when substance abuse and mental illness become intertwined. Many people are quick to blame Demons for the demonic effects of addictions and many things that seem natural to most of us, can take a demonic toll on those that become afflicted. Something I was never taught but came to figure out both through study and experimentation {
} is any that any thing that can generate pleasure can become addictive. Pleasure is addictive!
Food, books, sex, television, and games from pack man to poker become our personal demons [noun] while others open us up and lower our defences from spiritual Demons [pro noun] like substance abuse, astrology, porn, etc. All of these things are all real. There are too the demons that come from within our minds be they from neglect, abuse, malnutrition during formative years. Or are passed along thru birth like phsycal alcoholism / drug abuse on the part of the mother before birth. That they had no part of. These things can greatly affect the brain in ways it took me years to 1/2 understand.
I didn't feel it necessary to press reply to everything you have just said but people can read them rather taking uo all of that space again. so I will reply in order.
They have found bones of giants in many places. 3 off of the top of my head were Santa Catalina Island near Los Angeles, in central Nevada I believe on Piute indian land and at flower mound Ok.
The second post that I reply to isabout the two most common usages of the word demon, both noun and pro-noun. I have studied what is commonly called 'Dual Diagnosis' for years, not as a phd or md but merely as a counselor. It when substance abuse and mental illness become intertwined. Many people are quick to blame Demons for the demonic effects of addictions and many things that seem natural to most of us, can take a demonic toll on those that become afflicted. Something I was never taught but came to figure out both through study and experimentation {
} is any that any thing that can generate pleasure can become addictive. Pleasure is addictive!Food, books, sex, television, and games from pack man to poker become our personal demons [noun] while others open us up and lower our defences from spiritual Demons [pro noun] like substance abuse, astrology, porn, etc. All of these things are all real. There are too the demons that come from within our minds be they from neglect, abuse, malnutrition during formative years. Or are passed along thru birth like phsycal alcoholism / drug abuse on the part of the mother before birth. That they had no part of. These things can greatly affect the brain in ways it took me years to 1/2 understand.
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I didn't feel it necessary to press reply to everything you have just said but people can read them rather taking uo all of that space again. so I will reply in order.
They have found bones of giants in many places. 3 off of the top of my head were Santa Catalina Island near Los Angeles, in central Nevada I believe on Piute indian land and at flower mound Ok.
The second post that I reply to isabout the two most common usages of the word demon, both noun and pro-noun. I have studied what is commonly called 'Dual Diagnosis' for years, not as a phd or md but merely as a counselor. It when substance abuse and mental illness become intertwined. Many people are quick to blame Demons for the demonic effects of addictions and many things that seem natural to most of us, can take a demonic toll on those that become afflicted. Something I was never taught but came to figure out both through study and experimentation {} is any that any thing that can generate pleasure can become addictive. Pleasure is addictive!
Food, books, sex, television, and games from pack man to poker become our personal demons [noun] while others open us up and lower our defences from spiritual Demons [pro noun] like substance abuse, astrology, porn, etc. All of these things are all real. There are too the demons that come from within our minds be they from neglect, abuse, malnutrition during formative years. Or are passed along thru birth like phsycal alcoholism / drug abuse on the part of the mother before birth. That they had no part of. These things can greatly affect the brain in ways it took me years to 1/2 understand.[/QUOTE]
A couple things.
"Pleasure is addictive" SPOT ON!!! As our society reaches new level of pleasure people can experiance it is super important for us to remember this as more and more will become addicted to pleasure. Great observation!
Second, i dont think u need to worry to much about the demon illness thing. The bible clearly recognizes both demons and illnesses and differentiates between the two. Demons can cause illness in ppl as they r unatural and thats what causes the confusion. Most christians know this difference and it is only a super small minority who wld advocate for exorsism over treatment.
That said i do think the medicine industry is out of control and drugs are way overperscribed.
They have found bones of giants in many places. 3 off of the top of my head were Santa Catalina Island near Los Angeles, in central Nevada I believe on Piute indian land and at flower mound Ok.
The second post that I reply to isabout the two most common usages of the word demon, both noun and pro-noun. I have studied what is commonly called 'Dual Diagnosis' for years, not as a phd or md but merely as a counselor. It when substance abuse and mental illness become intertwined. Many people are quick to blame Demons for the demonic effects of addictions and many things that seem natural to most of us, can take a demonic toll on those that become afflicted. Something I was never taught but came to figure out both through study and experimentation {
} is any that any thing that can generate pleasure can become addictive. Pleasure is addictive!Food, books, sex, television, and games from pack man to poker become our personal demons [noun] while others open us up and lower our defences from spiritual Demons [pro noun] like substance abuse, astrology, porn, etc. All of these things are all real. There are too the demons that come from within our minds be they from neglect, abuse, malnutrition during formative years. Or are passed along thru birth like phsycal alcoholism / drug abuse on the part of the mother before birth. That they had no part of. These things can greatly affect the brain in ways it took me years to 1/2 understand.[/QUOTE]
A couple things.
"Pleasure is addictive" SPOT ON!!! As our society reaches new level of pleasure people can experiance it is super important for us to remember this as more and more will become addicted to pleasure. Great observation!
Second, i dont think u need to worry to much about the demon illness thing. The bible clearly recognizes both demons and illnesses and differentiates between the two. Demons can cause illness in ppl as they r unatural and thats what causes the confusion. Most christians know this difference and it is only a super small minority who wld advocate for exorsism over treatment.
That said i do think the medicine industry is out of control and drugs are way overperscribed.
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I didn't feel it necessary to press reply to everything you have just said but people can read them rather taking uo all of that space again. so I will reply in order.
They have found bones of giants in many places. 3 off of the top of my head were Santa Catalina Island near Los Angeles, in central Nevada I believe on Piute indian land and at flower mound Ok.
The second post that I reply to isabout the two most common usages of the word demon, both noun and pro-noun. I have studied what is commonly called 'Dual Diagnosis' for years, not as a phd or md but merely as a counselor. It when substance abuse and mental illness become intertwined. Many people are quick to blame Demons for the demonic effects of addictions and many things that seem natural to most of us, can take a demonic toll on those that become afflicted. Something I was never taught but came to figure out both through study and experimentation {} is any that any thing that can generate pleasure can become addictive. Pleasure is addictive!
Food, books, sex, television, and games from pack man to poker become our personal demons [noun] while others open us up and lower our defences from spiritual Demons [pro noun] like substance abuse, astrology, porn, etc. All of these things are all real. There are too the demons that come from within our minds be they from neglect, abuse, malnutrition during formative years. Or are passed along thru birth like phsycal alcoholism / drug abuse on the part of the mother before birth. That they had no part of. These things can greatly affect the brain in ways it took me years to 1/2 understand.
They have found bones of giants in many places. 3 off of the top of my head were Santa Catalina Island near Los Angeles, in central Nevada I believe on Piute indian land and at flower mound Ok.
The second post that I reply to isabout the two most common usages of the word demon, both noun and pro-noun. I have studied what is commonly called 'Dual Diagnosis' for years, not as a phd or md but merely as a counselor. It when substance abuse and mental illness become intertwined. Many people are quick to blame Demons for the demonic effects of addictions and many things that seem natural to most of us, can take a demonic toll on those that become afflicted. Something I was never taught but came to figure out both through study and experimentation {
} is any that any thing that can generate pleasure can become addictive. Pleasure is addictive!Food, books, sex, television, and games from pack man to poker become our personal demons [noun] while others open us up and lower our defences from spiritual Demons [pro noun] like substance abuse, astrology, porn, etc. All of these things are all real. There are too the demons that come from within our minds be they from neglect, abuse, malnutrition during formative years. Or are passed along thru birth like phsycal alcoholism / drug abuse on the part of the mother before birth. That they had no part of. These things can greatly affect the brain in ways it took me years to 1/2 understand.
"Pleasure is addictive" SPOT ON!!! As our society reaches new level of pleasure people can experiance it is super important for us to remember this as more and more will become addicted to pleasure. Great observation!
Second, i dont think u need to worry to much about the demon illness thing. The bible clearly recognizes both demons and illnesses and differentiates between the two. Demons can cause illness in ppl as they r unatural and thats what causes the confusion. Most christians know this difference and it is only a super small minority who wld advocate for exorsism over treatment.
That said i do think the medicine industry is out of control and drugs are way overperscribed.[/QUOTE]
Yes..i agree with the medicine thing..would really like to see holistic meds..herbs etc get bigger. Again..all bout money honey...just a bit of intetest..apple cider vinigar can help control blood sugars to a diabetic...the issue is controling purity amd how much perscribed to really help a person..
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I'm not going to put down the use of medication but big pharma and Doctors seem to lean on medication rather than nutrition. For singles this is especially important. I don't feel much like cooking for myself and doing the clean up afterwards. So I'll eat something from a bag or a can much more often than cook something from scratch just for myself. I've learned that cognitive decline & depression can be improved simply by taking 'B' vitamins with a meal once a day.
I would be in favor of having MDs study nutrition more than math or art
I would be in favor of having MDs study nutrition more than math or art