Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

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If He didn't then how could this be true?:

Therefore, it was necessary for him to be made in every respect like us, his brothers and sisters, so that he could be our merciful and faithful High Priest before God. Then he could offer a sacrifice that would take away the sins of the people. Since he himself has gone through suffering and testing, he is able to help us when we are being tested.
Hebrews 2:17‭-‬18 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/heb.2.17-18.NLT
 
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Christ's DNA was from Adam via Mary, but his spiritual legacy came from GOD. So he was like man in every way except that his spiritual nature was unmarred by the consequence of Adam's sin. Which proves that sinful nature is not something intrinsic to the flesh. It is something inherited from one's father.
 
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Scripture says Jesus was tempted in every point yet without sin. Our sin nature is inherited from Adam. You could say sin is in our family tree. In Christ who is second Adam we are adopted into a new family tree. One where sin no longer condemns us and we inherit eternal life.

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I think that he had. But he always won over it.
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Christ's DNA was from Adam via Mary, but his spiritual legacy came from GOD. So he was like man in every way except that his spiritual nature was unmarred by the consequence of Adam's sin. Which proves that sinful nature is not something intrinsic to the flesh. It is something inherited from one's father.
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What proof do you have that our sinful nature is not passed by both parents?
 
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notuptome said:
Scripture says Jesus was tempted in every point yet without sin. Our sin nature is inherited from Adam. You could say sin is in our family tree. In Christ who is second Adam we are adopted into a new family tree. One where sin no longer condemns us and we inherit eternal life.

For the cause of Christ
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But that is not addressing the topic here. What about Jesus having a sin nature?
 
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DevotiontoBible said:
If He didn't then how could this be true?:

Therefore, it was necessary for him to be made in every respect like us, his brothers and sisters, so that he could be our merciful and faithful High Priest before God. Then he could offer a sacrifice that would take away the sins of the people. Since he himself has gone through suffering and testing, he is able to help us when we are being tested.
Hebrews 2:17‭-‬18 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/heb.2.17-18.NLT
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a. He disrobed himself of the Glory he had with the Father
b. He took upon him the form of a servant
c. He came in the LIKENESS of sinful flesh (the ability to sin, but did no sin)
d. He took our sin upon himself
e. He became a curse for us (Galatians)
f. He was temporarily forsaken by the Father as he hung on the tree (cross)
g. He imputes his righteousness through faith eternally

Many people blow right though the fact that JESUS told the young ruler....

Why do you call me GOOD, there are NONE GOOD but GOD......<---he said this because of the above.....
 
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DevotiontoBible said:
What proof do you have that our sinful nature is not passed by both parents?
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Do you mean what evidence? For one, in the bible inheritance, which includes spiritual legacy, passed through the father, not the mother. For two, subsequent generations were visited with the sins of their fathers, not their mothers.

Thou shalt not make to thyself an idol, nor likeness of anything, whatever things are in the heaven above, and whatever are in the earth beneath, and whatever are in the waters under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down to them, nor serve them; for I am the Lord thy God, a jealous God, recompensing the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, to the third and fourth generation to them that hate me, and bestowing mercy on them that love me to thousands of them, and on them that keep my commandments. Exodus 20:4-6​
 
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DevotiontoBible said:
What proof do you have that our sinful nature is not passed by both parents?
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The bible states as much....for by ONE man sin entered........exactly why Jesus was born of the woman overshadowed by the Holy Spirit....if he had had an earthly father he would have been born in sin......
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Do you mean what evidence? For one, in the bible inheritance, which includes spiritual legacy, passed through the father, not the mother. For two, subsequent generations were visited with the sins of their fathers, not their mothers.

Thou shalt not make to thyself an idol, nor likeness of anything, whatever things are in the heaven above, and whatever are in the earth beneath, and whatever are in the waters under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down to them, nor serve them; for I am the Lord thy God, a jealous God, recompensing the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, to the third and fourth generation to them that hate me, and bestowing mercy on them that love me to thousands of them, and on them that keep my commandments. Exodus 20:4-6​
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"Fathers" mean both parents:

You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected—even children in the third and fourth generations of those who reject me.
Exodus 20:5 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/exo.20.5.NLT
 
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dcontroversal said:
The bible states as much....for by ONE man sin entered........exactly why Jesus was born of the woman overshadowed by the Holy Spirit....if he had had an earthly father he would have been born in sin......
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There is no proof of that. Show proof that the sin nature is only in men not women.
 
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DevotiontoBible said:
"Fathers" mean both parents:

You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected—even children in the third and fourth generations of those who reject me.
Exodus 20:5 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/exo.20.5.NLT
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You're using a gender-neutralized bible. The word is father.

H1 אָב 'ab (awb) n-m.
1. father
 
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