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Well, it's a quick in and quick out again - it's off to Church now! Will pop back in later to say 'G'day! (((HUGS))) Love to all ma gorgeous peoples! Love you all in Christ! XO
 

slave

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slave is also a username

my question is, how to overcome the perception that
a slave is someone who is forcefully controlled by a might-makes-right slave master?

So the point of the human argument in Scripture of being slaves to righteousness (or a proper relationship to God thru Christ Jesus) is tantamount to knowing the Master (well) of whom you belong to. When you know God thru Jesus via the Holy Spirit you know (John 10:10) well that the Character of God and Jesus is to love us fully poured out and love us our best interests in mind. The irony is He knows that better than we do until He shows us ... After all - He made us to enjoy His fellowship and Lordship.

So how well do you really know Jesus? Thats the question which answers your question when it is well received and applied to.


Romans 6:15-23 English Standard Version (ESV) ...Slaves to Righteousness

15 What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16 Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves,[a] you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. 19 I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.


20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.21 But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 

HoneyDew

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Worked a 12 hour day today. Would love to stay and chat but.....

See you all tomorrow. :D
 
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To become one with Jesus Christ, a person must be willing not only to give up sin, but also to surrender his whole way of looking at things. Being born again by the Spirit of God means that we must first be willing to let go before we can grasp something else. The first thing we must surrender is all of our pretense or deceit. What our Lord wants us to present to Him is not our goodness, honesty, or our efforts to do better, but real solid sin. Actually, that is all He can take from us. And what He gives us in exchange for our sin is real solid righteousness. But we must surrender all pretense that we are anything, and give up all our claims of even being worthy of God’s consideration.

Once we have done that, the Spirit of God will show us what we need to surrender next. Along each step of this process, we will have to give up our claims to our rights to ourselves. Are we willing to surrender our grasp on all that we possess, our desires, and everything else in our lives? Are we ready to be identified with the death of Jesus Christ?

We will suffer a sharp painful disillusionment before we fully surrender; hence, the experiential crisis at first. When people really see themselves as the Lord sees them, it is not the terribly offensive sins of the flesh that shock them, but the awful nature of the pride of their own hearts opposing Jesus Christ. When they see themselves in the light of the Lord, the shame, horror, and desperate conviction hit home for them.

If you are faced with the question of whether or not to surrender, make a determination to go on through the crisis, surrendering all that you have and all that you are to Him. And God will then equip you to do all that He requires of you. This is having the audacity to allow the Lord be indeed your Sovereign Lord and Master.

whether or not to surrender, make a determination to go on through the crisis, surrendering all that you have and all that you are to Him. <-- how do we make a determination, especially since our heart refuse to let us?

and how to do multiple quotes?
 

Monnkai

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Look What I found :) Sure the boxers it comes with wont fit me since it was targeted at children in the 90's. I already have the book but an extra copies always nice. I already bought a Goosebumps poster a French Goosebumps book and a book that comes with a flashlight. I think I spent enough for one month....Maybe.....
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slave

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whether or not to surrender, make a determination to go on through the crisis, surrendering all that you have and all that you are to Him. <-- how do we make a determination, especially since our heart refuse to let us?

and how to do multiple quotes?
Well first you have to understand the nature of Spiritual Mastery; we are no god. Thus, it is one of the two Spirits that rule us - You are right that your desires; by way of spirit - which are of the flesh and world that you delight in is running the ship or soul as it were. But you have said you have given your life to God now about a year ago - thus, now it is time to allow God to change and transform your mind and your character in Him through obedience. How do we make a determination to do that? (Matthew 6:21) says "...where your heart is; there your treasure will be also." So, by your will you can place your trust and life in God and He will begin the transformation process through righteousness. When we willfully start Praising God - God will produce in us humility. Ok, great speech Dan - but now what right?

Well, Decide to make a choice and go with it! - "Meditate upon these things..." (1 Timothy 4:15) Meditation means getting to the middle of a thing, pinning yourself down to a certain thing and concentratedly brooding upon it. The majority of us attend only to the "muddle" of things, consequently we get spiritual indigestion, the counterpart of physical indigestion, a desperately gloomy state of affairs. We cannot see anything rightly, and all we do see is stars. "Faith is...the evidence of things not seen." Suppose Jesus suddenly lifted the veil from our eyes and let us see angels ministering to us, His Own Presence with us, the Holy Spirit in us, and the Father around us, how amazed we should be! We have lived in the "muddle" of things instead of in the middle of things. Faith gets us into the middle, which is God and God’s purpose. Elisha prayed for his servant, "LORD, I pray Thee, open his eyes, that he may see," and when his eyes were opened he saw the host of God and nothing else.

We have to learn to pay attention to reality; one soul attending to reality is an emancipation to hundreds more. We are impertinently inquisitive about everything saving that one thing. Through inattention to our own true (John 12:24-26) experience:

"I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies it produces many seeds. The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life."

As we respond in obedience to God, He promises to lead and guide us through life with a sense of victory and hope. The times of trial, distress, and isolation are times God accomplishes His greatest work, when He molds us into the likeness of Christ (Himself).

"The one great need for the one who has given their lives completely to Christ is to be ready for Jesus Christ, and we cannot be ready unless we have seen Him." The way we come to see Jesus is through surrender. The blessing of living life abandoned to Him is to witness His daily power and grace alive and flowing through our lives into the lives of others.

In abandonment and surrender we find the capacity we live as in a dream, when all around us and in us are the eternal realities. "Attend to these duties, let them absorb you, so that all men may note your progress." We are apt to be busy about everything but that which concerns our spiritual progress, and at the end of a profitless day we snatch up a Bible or Daily Devotional and read a few verses, and it does us good for precisely three-quarters of a second. We have to take time to be diligent. Meditation is not being like a pebble in a brook, allowing the waters of thought to flow over us; that is daydreaming.

Meditation is the most intense spiritual act, it brings every part of body and mind into harness. To be spiritual by effort is a sure sign of a false relationship to God; to be obedient by effort in the initial stage is a sure sign that we are determined to obey God at all costs.

Take time. Remember we have all the time there is. The majority of us waste time and want to impose ourself on eternity. "Oh well, I will think about these things when I have time." The only time you will have is the day after you are dead, and that will be eternity. An hour, or half an hour, of daily attention to and meditation on our own spiritual life is the secret of progress.
 

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I gotta get a new View attachment 184651 . The outlet breaker popped off the other day, and I thought it was the microwave finally dying, so I unplugged it and took it outside. Came back in and discovered it was only the stupid breaker, but I've been wanting to get a new microwave anyway, so it's all good.. (y)(y)

Merry Christmas BluecatwomanLady! This is a good one too! You can start your car with it too! ;):LOL::unsure::):geek::cool:


 

slave

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whether or not to surrender, make a determination to go on through the crisis, surrendering all that you have and all that you are to Him. <-- how do we make a determination, especially since our heart refuse to let us?

and how to do multiple quotes?
Multiple quotes: Just hit the lower left 'REPLY' Icon button once on any reply you wish to respond to and hit the next post again the same way - on the same lower left 'REPLY' button if you desire even a third multiple quote hit that next post 'Reply' button once more the same way - then when you are ready to reply accordingly - begin typing in your text and send. It will show you the accumulation of quotes as you gather them.