a born-again Christian can never (keyword: never) lose their salvation

a born-again Christian can never lose their salvation

to illustrate: a child can ask "what does born mean?", or "what does being physically born mean?" even though the child is already physically born, in the same way, just because a Christian can ask "what does receive mean?" just because of the mere difficulty in understanding it, and nothing else. Even with confusion in terminologies, Christians can still be saved.

if a child forgot his/her physical birthday, does that mean the child was never physically born to begin with? that's absurd. The same way, even if Christians forgot the day of their salvation, they can still be saved

for a married couple, if they are unable to make the vow the same way they did at the wedding, does that mean that they cease to be married? Definitely not, since that's not "grounds for divorce" and God hates divorce anyway. The same way, even if you are unable to pray the sinner's prayer like you did on the day of salvation you can still be saved.

if there's fights and arguments in marriage, does that mean that the married couple cease to be married? Again, for the same reason that you will have ups and downs in your walk with Jesus, but still, you can still be saved.

if a seedling bear no fruit, does that mean that ... ok, you get my point, it takes time to bear fruits, but still, you can still be saved.

any more illustrations will be more than welcomed in this thread, thank you

Is it possible for someone to escape the defilements of the world without true saving faith in Jesus Christ?

Thank you for your question, in this world, we can never escape the defilement, but only through saving faith in Jesus Christ is there hope of being saved. I can be forever amazed at how God is able to keep heaven pure, protected from the sins that originated from Adam and Eve

by the way, what would innocence be like?

Thank you for your question, in this world, we can never escape the defilement, but only through saving faith in Jesus Christ is there hope of being saved. I can be forever amazed at how God is able to keep heaven pure, protected from the sins that originated from Adam and Eve

by the way, what would innocence be like?

Defilements (Strong’s #3393) ("pollutions", "filthy things", "contaminations", "world's filth") (miasma see study of related word miasmos) describes the state of being tainted or stained by evil and refers to ‘impurity, impure, tainted, defilement, foulness or pollution.'

Corruption (Strong's #5356 - different Greek word) (to shrivel or wither, spoil , ruin , deprave, corrupt , defile, to destroy by means of corrupting, to spoil as does milk). Corruption - describes decomposition or rotting of an organism and the accompanying stench. The utter depravity of the fallen flesh and the resultant moral decomposition of the world opposed to God is driven by it sinful lusts or evil desires. Internal corruption.

Defilement refers to what is on the outside. But true believers have escaped the corruption (Strong's #5356) that is in the world through lust (see 2 Peter 1:4).

Corruption is much deeper than defilement on the outside: it is decay on the inside. True believers have received a new nature, a divine nature, and they have new and different appetites and desires. *They have been transformed from pigs and dogs into sheep.

Is it possible for someone to escape the defilements of the world without true saving faith in Jesus Christ?

So when 2 Pet 2:20 says they escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ they have only received an outward cleansing. They remain corrupt on the inside? Could you do a word study on the Greek word for knowledge here. I am of the belief that it is the kind of knowledge that comes from experience. They have experienced Jesus. They do not just have some superficial knowledge of Jesus. Further I wonder why when they get soiled again on the outside Peter says they are worse off than before. Why would they be worse off when they never were true believers at all.

a born-again Christian can never lose their salvation

to illustrate: a child can ask "what does born mean?", or "what does being physically born mean?" even though the child is already physically born, in the same way, just because a Christian can ask "what does receive mean?" just because of the mere difficulty in understanding it, and nothing else. Even with confusion in terminologies, Christians can still be saved.

if a child forgot his/her physical birthday, does that mean the child was never physically born to begin with? that's absurd. The same way, even if Christians forgot the day of their salvation, they can still be saved

for a married couple, if they are unable to make the vow the same way they did at the wedding, does that mean that they cease to be married? Definitely not, since that's not "grounds for divorce" and God hates divorce anyway. The same way, even if you are unable to pray the sinner's prayer like you did on the day of salvation you can still be saved.

if there's fights and arguments in marriage, does that mean that the married couple cease to be married? Again, for the same reason that you will have ups and downs in your walk with Jesus, but still, you can still be saved.

if a seedling bear no fruit, does that mean that ... ok, you get my point, it takes time to bear fruits, but still, you can still be saved.

any more illustrations will be more than welcomed in this thread, thank you

Where in scripture is there described such a thing as an anointed sinner?

If Jesus said that unless one is born again, they cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. Then all that are born again are in the kingdom of heaven. Now come judgment day, we know that he will not judge the lost, because they have been condemned because of unbelief. But, he will judge those that are in the kingdom of heaven, and say to some. Depart from me, I never knew you. Ye workers of iniquty.

So when 2 Pet 2:20 says they escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ they have only received an outward cleansing. They remain corrupt on the inside? Could you do a word study on the Greek word for knowledge here. I am of the belief that it is the kind of knowledge that comes from experience. They have experienced Jesus. They do not just have some superficial knowledge of Jesus. Further I wonder why when they get soiled again on the outside Peter says they are worse off than before. Why would they be worse off when they never were true believers at all.

Where in scripture is there described such a thing as an anointed sinner?

Do you realize you are contradicting yourself in the same paragraph?

Tell me how one can be a born again Child of God by receiving Jesus, and sealed by The Holy Spirit, yet Jesus tells some of His Children that HE NEVER KNEW THEM!!?

You are wrong. Yes you are sealed. You now belong to him for better or for worse. Your judgment is more severe that those that are lost because you know the truth and failed to live by it. Please, read more scripture on this. You should know that only the righteous will be judged, and the lost will rise and be cast in the lake of fire,because their judgment has been sealed.

Yeah.. I guess I could just say "you are wrong" too, but I'll let the dozen or more passages in Scripture that speak of a judgement of the LIVING AND THE DEAD. Like this one make my point:
2 Timothy 4:1 New King James Version (NKJV)
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4 I charge you [a]therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead [b]at His appearing and His kingdom:

The living's sin's of course have already been judged and paid for by the Blood of Christ.

And can you please tell me that if Jesus is speaking to His born again Children, when He tells them to depart from Him to Hell, why He said He NEVER knew them? NOT, that He knew them at one time and they did or didn't do something to become unborn again, but that He NEVER knew them.