Are Roman Catholics Christians

Let's just admit that Christianity is a pretty complex subject and straight answers don't really exist because of the evident confusion and variety in doctrine, denominations, and faiths...... I swear, you can find an apparent justification for almost all denominations, they can all point in the good book why they are right in believing what they believe.

The catholic church can not be traced back to the 1st century, peter would reject the church of rome and many of its children (orthodoxy and many so called protestant denominations who kept her works based gospel) as it is,

Let's just admit that Christianity is a pretty complex subject and straight answers don't really exist because of the evident confusion and variety in doctrine, denominations, and faiths...... I swear, you can find an apparent justification for almost all denominations, they can all point in the good book why they are right in believing what they believe.

That is far from the truth. Gods word is straight forward and simple. Men are sinners and in need of redemption. Christ died to redeem them but they must come to Him and seek for forgiveness.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I agree with what you have said, especially the first part of your sentence...sort of.

Some doctrine is important. It's crucial.

But a complete theological scaffolding tends to do something odd. It either becomes too...lenient, or it becomes too merciless.

There are always verses and then there are verses that pull against them. And when men try to build something that answers every single question about God, they tip too far one way. I don't know why...

Let me put it this way so you can see the irony in this mess.

God, the all knowing timeless being which far surpasses all understanding. He was, is and is to come. Never changing, completely omniscient, omnipotent and all powerful. His intellect and creativity is something that cannot be conceived within the human futile mind. By the way, this book(bible) here tells exactly everything about God and who he is, come learn about him, we'll teach ya.

No thanks. I already have seen some men and women leave in utter confusion. Then again, I've seen another church confuse them too, because they come out with the tendency to want men to answer their every question instead of waiting on God.

oh, I had thought you were telling me to come to the catholic church to be taught and get answers. My mistake.

From reading the law of the Catholic fathers as their apologetics. They have no biblical foundation.( sola scriptura) But rather seek after oral traditions of men that they must call apostolic succession. Men putting their faith in that seen other men .

Its there attempt to make all things written in the law and the prophets (sola scriptura) to no effect so that the pew Catholics (non venerable/worship-able ones) can seek after the approval of that seen (fathers) the temporal, and not walk by faith the unseen, eternal .

They have set up their own faith base based on necromancy or what they call patron saints (3500 and rising) and what they call private revelations, to give the illusion God is still adding to His book., violating the final warning not to add or substract .

Below are the kind of laws they must follow when seeking the approval of men . They insist a man as that seen must teach them . It exposes the motive of operation the spirit of the antichrists.... the many that were there .


The law of men #80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same "divine well-spring", come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal." Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".

Pope Urban VIII on Private Revelation... His Holiness, Pope Urban VIII stated: "In cases which concern private revelations, it is better to believe than not to believe, for, if you believe, and it is proven true, you will be happy that you have believed, because our Holy Mother asked it. If you believe, and it should be proven false, you will receive all blessings as if it had been true, because you believed it to be true."(Pope Urban VIII, 1623-44)

It helps benefit thos who go above that which is wriiten by giving them the sky as the limit Just believe either way o it make this entiy they call Mary happy a person can use the imagination of their own hearts as a different source of faith (necromancy) other than all things written in the law and the prophets (sola scriptura)

Sola scriptura. The one reforming authority (as it is written) in any generation .. still makes the devil flee .

Let's just admit that Christianity is a pretty complex subject and straight answers don't really exist because of the evident confusion and variety in doctrine, denominations, and faiths...... I swear, you can find an apparent justification for almost all denominations, they can all point in the good book why they are right in believing what they believe.

Every denomination have their interpretation but Protestant base on the Bible. Different interpretation but the same text book. But catholic totally different text book. Example one of her text book call lumen gentium say Islam worship Abraham god.
Her text book is nothing but lie.

Sorry but Christians are not judged after death. Christians have already confessed themselves as sinners to the Savior. Christ took our place in judgment and gave us justification by grace.

Christians are made the righteousness of Christ and He was made sin in our place. Vicarious atonement is Gods plan.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

lol are you kidding me? Where did you get this fun fact? A cereal box? Organized Christianity (as we know it) stems all from Catholicism. Everything started from there. Protestantism derived from Catholicism. I love how I too was sold this idea of protestants being "superior" in faith and character since them Catholics were so "lost."

The true early Christians were all killed off and persecuted for a reason......

Let's just admit that Christianity is a pretty complex subject and straight answers don't really exist because of the evident confusion and variety in doctrine, denominations, and faiths...... I swear, you can find an apparent justification for almost all denominations, they can all point in the good book why they are right in believing what they believe.

Some Evangelicals don't want to investigate the Truth. they want you to join their Born Again religious scam where you will be taught that you are stealing God and won't received blessings if you don't give 10 percent then love offerings then prayer requests. some groups will say that you don't need to do good works but it is not included the giving of 10 percent and other form of collections.

I suspect some Evangelicals here are receiving allowance from their pastors to advertise their faith/criticize Catholics and other non Evangelicals in order to join them.

The Evangelicals are also hypnotized that as long as you are Born Again then you will always be progressive in life hihihihi

just give anything what their pastors wanted (10 percent/love offerings/prayer requests)

at least in the Catholic and Orthodox Churches you can attend mass w/o giving a cent until your death.

hey please treat us for a nice cheeseburger meal. ahahahaha

It's not that I am searching for an answer for every question.

I am just trying to irrefutably KNOW that I am saved, and what is the best and most pleasing way to live for the creator.

That's all, even this basic inquiry has yielded very mixed answers.

Sorry for trying to use reason........

No i am Not kidding you, but the catholic church evidently has you fooled.

Organized christianity was never a thing God intended, he started a body, a group of local churches which started in jerusalem and reached the world known to rome, it looked nothing like the catholic church, all i have t do is look at Gods word, and see what they did, and what they tought, then walk into a catholic temple (which i have numerous times)to realise they look nothing alike.

Oh and ps, please do not call me a protestant, in order for me to protest a church i have to consider it a church,

I am a child of God and who gave me that right? Well according t john the only people given that right are those who recieve HIM, which i have,


Oh and by the way, the roman church killed or imrisoned anyone who did not agree with her for centuris, and it burned any books or writtings of any people who did not agree with her, when did God tell the church to do this?

Catholics have the same canon. They only have a couple extra books.

Why would there be separate interpretations within the protestant branch if protestants are right and everyone else is wrong? They don't even appear to agree with eachother.

I will admit the word of god only

Man makes the word donfusing, when you have the HS, he takes what is confusing to the world and makes it Understandable

Why would you rather follow men then God?