Obedience, Oh No!

Okay ralph, when you get like this I just have to leave.

And by the way, the parable of the samaritan doesn't involve a donkey in a ditch to the best of my recollection.
And if you are going to go back to the law to argue against the parable, you've gone the wrong way.

I couldn't remember where in the law the Parable of the Samaritan is based on. I'll have to look it up. So I used the passage I could remember in the law about being kind and helpful to your enemies. I would certainly help B----n if I saw he needed help, even though he has not treated me very kindly in our discussions about Hypergrace theology. But that hardly means I have to regard him as a brother. If he's been nice to you, fine. And if you want to consider him a fellow believer you certainly have that right, just as I have the right not to.

But that hardly means I have to regard him as a brother. If he's been nice to you, fine. And if you want to consider him a fellow believer you certainly have that right, just as I have the right not to.

Okay ralph, when you get like this I just have to leave.

And by the way, the parable of the samaritan doesn't involve a donkey in a ditch to the best of my recollection.
And if you are going to go back to the law to argue against the parable, you've gone the wrong way.

You showed him no mercy with that post.
And in your next post, you said no one can know who is saved.
Yet we know that the immoral, revilers, swindlers, idolatrous, covetous are going to hell.
And you used that verse to describe him.

You need to look into this all.

And now I feel like I upset ralph too much. And I feel bad. But we really have to start calling each other on our crap in here. And from even our own "side" we need to do it. But it's kind of difficult when it's become the norm to talk to each other in a bad way.

You know, there was a guy coming in here a few nights ago preaching nihilism! THAT'S who we need to fight strenuously with - not each other.

And we have GOT to stop demanding some perfection of knowledge and doctrine from others that even WE DON'T HAVE! None of us is perfect. None of us has perfect knowledge. We have become way to quick to judge each other all kinds of bad things just because we're at different stages of understanding/growth.

We HAVE to find a way to disagree without the anger and arrogance. We HAVE to. He's coming soon. We have to start calling each other on our crap attitudes towards each other. We have to help each other to a better walk.

And when we get new members, we teach them to deal with everyone with arrogance because they see us acting that way. And so we don't help them at all by showing them a good example of maturity in discussions.

I'll shut up now. Ralph, I'm sorry. I love you brother. Do you know I love you? I don't have to agree with you or anyone else on everything. I love you. There has just got to be a way for us to disagree peaceably and stop making every single thing a salvation issue or a reason to beat each other up or call each other unsaved. If we really feel someone is unsaved, our nastiness certainly doesn't show them our Lord.

I'm not talking about those who occasionally come in to start a melee and who we ALL disagree with. I'm talking about how we are with each other who we see every day in here.

Yep. Jesus say love your enemy, and if one slap your right cheek, give your left cheek. That mean, we have to respons politely each other thought we may not fully agree each other. This is love and a Christian way of communication

Not that our brothers really ARE our enemy...we just decide they are because their view of some scripture angers us...

If the law is instructional how can it be irrelevant. If the law ever was a tudor/teacher then is still is. As Pauls says:

Rom. 7:7 "What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet."

Granted we will never be able to keep the law, that is why we have grace. If the law defines sin, is still gives us a direction. If anyone on this forum could keep the two great commandments perfectly, then they would not have to do the law.

Paul goes on in Romans:

Rom. 7:12 "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good."

We worship God in spirit and truth (John 4:24). Keeping the commandments is the least of our service, which we will not do perfectly. Thank God that Jesus made that unnecessary.

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And now I feel like I upset ralph too much. And I feel bad.

I love you brother. Do you know I love you?

Thank God that Jesus made that (keeping dead laws) unnecessary.

amen, saved by grace, not by works

Seemes like If JESUS we're to come walking around the corner some people would run up and hug HIS shadow Istead of hugging JESUS.

He did not set them aside, as the wod says not one jot or tittle will pass awway until all is fulfilled, they still work even today showing people how sinful they are so they can be led to christ and find salvation.

Sadly some want to take the schoolmaster and be bound to him even after they are saved.

Walking in a shadow would be in light or in darkness...?

Lol

By which I certainly don't mean, 'be disobedient' even tho I'll likely be so slanderously accused.

As important as it is to be wary of evil, I think it's wiser to be looking for Christ than to be looking for Satan.

By which I certainly don't mean, 'be disobedient' even tho I'll likely be so slanderously accused.

As important as it is to be wary of evil, I think it's wiser to be looking for Christ than to be looking for Satan.

It would be light for those under law but HE has already came to earth and paid for our sins so thin It would now be darkness FOR those who are trying to be righteous by their own strength.

sidenote:The WORD of GOD Is light but the flesh Is carnal sold under sin.

Perhaps a good study of the Letter to the Ephesians may help some..