I don't even know what to say to this... 
My kitty and my puppy are angels. Just ask 'em.
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Do animals have immortal souls? My take on the debate
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Oh come on, that's a visual we can play with isn't it? The fern in my picture window could be a demon. Which explains the spider plant next to it sort of withering seemingly on a daily basis. Hmmmm.....
My kitty and my puppy are angels. Just ask 'em.
My kitty and my puppy are angels. Just ask 'em.
Exactly. With God, everything is possible. We don't know exactly HOW nature praises God, but it does. The bible says so, and I believe the bible.
Many more years ago than that an experiment was done with plants. I know a woman who knew the researcher involved. Plants are not only conscious but are emotional.
Makes sense really since all things come from the Holy Spirit Creator. Living Holy Spirit would not make anything that was just there but without any kind of spirit of its own.
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such a beautiful beautiful passage and beautifully rendered...I don't think I have said that before about your work
entire creation is praising and worshiping God...we may not understand it, but it seems to occur anyway
I know when I go out into God's creation my heart soars and you cannot help but praise Him!
entire creation is praising and worshiping God...we may not understand it, but it seems to occur anyway
I know when I go out into God's creation my heart soars and you cannot help but praise Him!
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Thank you, 7seasrekeyed I love making these I started it after reading one of @blue_ladybug's posts
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we must never forget what the Bible teaches us, no matter what!!!
satan is continually counterfeiting Christ to lead people astray -
and as we, hub and I have been taught/learned the hard way,
he does have the power to possess not only people, but also,
animals...READ your Bibles and learn...this is KEY to survival...
satan is continually counterfeiting Christ to lead people astray -
and as we, hub and I have been taught/learned the hard way,
he does have the power to possess not only people, but also,
animals...READ your Bibles and learn...this is KEY to survival...
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Yeah I bought an Appaloosa horse once that I swore was possessed. She was so easily spooked by any noise, she would rare-up when anything noisy happened. Sometime I think she heard things that weren't there. I bought her for my daughter to ride, but she never could.
She sure could jump. I had her pened in a pasture with a four foot fence. If something spooked her she would jump right out of that and I would have to chase her down. I sold her to an Indian that bred Appy-mules for their jumping ability.
She sure could jump. I had her pened in a pasture with a four foot fence. If something spooked her she would jump right out of that and I would have to chase her down. I sold her to an Indian that bred Appy-mules for their jumping ability.
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Which post?
Neither do some people.. lol
Ask God that question. All I know is, ALL CREATION will and does, give praise to God. It says that in the bible. Every time the sun shines, or the wind blows gently through the trees and the leaves rustle, every time a flower blooms or a bird sings, it's praising God.
Ask God that question.
All I know is, ALL CREATION will and does, give praise to God. It says that in the bible. Every time the sun shines, or the wind blows gently through the trees and the leaves rustle, every time a flower blooms or a bird sings, it's praising God.
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Yeah I bought an Appaloosa horse once that I swore was possessed. She was so easily spooked by any noise, she would rare-up when anything noisy happened. Sometime I think she heard things that weren't there. I bought her for my daughter to ride, but she never could.
She sure could jump. I had her pened in a pasture with a four foot fence. If something spooked her she would jump right out of that and I would have to chase her down. I sold her to an Indian that bred Appy-mules for their jumping ability.
She sure could jump. I had her pened in a pasture with a four foot fence. If something spooked her she would jump right out of that and I would have to chase her down. I sold her to an Indian that bred Appy-mules for their jumping ability.
horses can be brought around but you have to know horses...the quickest way to get badly hurt or worse, is think they are all domesticated like dogs. just like people, horses have their own quirks and personalities, plus, many of them will 'test' you to see what you are made of...if you are fearful or very inexperienced, they will really get the best of you...especially horses with a lot of history with humans. I could tell alot of stories LOL!
I can assure you that the mare you described was NOT possessed by demons
I would also like to add, generally, that there are not demons under every rock and I know you are not saying that, but you have described normal behavior for a horse that has not been well handled. there are some horses that are just 'born bad' but they are few and far between.
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Well yes 7seas, I was being facetious about the possession. I knew she had been mistreated, but she was bargain priced. I thought I could do something with her as I had helped a buddy with his horse rearing up. I seemed to be making headway but then she would revert. One day my daughter said she would never trust her, so I just sold her.
I like this guy's spirit!
I like this guy's spirit!
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Well yes 7seas, I was being facetious about the possession. I knew she had been mistreated, but she was bargain priced. I thought I could do something with her as I had helped a buddy with his horse rearing up. I seemed to be making headway but then she would revert. One day my daughter said she would never trust her, so I just sold her.
I like this guy's spirit!
I like this guy's spirit!
sadly, she would just keep getting worse until the right person came along and understood her
too many horses end up like that and there are no bargain horses. you either pay for a well trained and safe animal up front or you pay for the bargain horse the longer you keep it
guess you learned that though
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Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Ecc 3:20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Ecc 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
When the saints and angels are in the New Jerusalem, the new earth and heaven, the former heaven and earth shall not be remembered, nor come to mind, for it is associated with sin and rebellion.
Animals, pets from earth, will not be in heaven, or the new earth, for if a person knows of their pet in the new earth, they would only know that by knowing about earth, and they will know of the sin and rebellion that took place there.
The saints will not even know their family, and friends, from earth, for they will know nothing prior to the New Jerusalem, which is a place where sin has never been, and sin will never be, and sin and rebellion will never come up again.
Ecc 3:20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Ecc 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
When the saints and angels are in the New Jerusalem, the new earth and heaven, the former heaven and earth shall not be remembered, nor come to mind, for it is associated with sin and rebellion.
Animals, pets from earth, will not be in heaven, or the new earth, for if a person knows of their pet in the new earth, they would only know that by knowing about earth, and they will know of the sin and rebellion that took place there.
The saints will not even know their family, and friends, from earth, for they will know nothing prior to the New Jerusalem, which is a place where sin has never been, and sin will never be, and sin and rebellion will never come up again.
While we don't know (at least I don't) whether there will be animals in New Jerusalem, there will certainly be animals in the millennial kingdom.
Isa 11:
6) The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7) And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8) And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Rubbish.
Isa 11:
6) The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7) And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8) And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Rubbish.
Well Matt, let's look at Isa. 65 and the new earth:
Isa. 65:20 "There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed."
Is this really talking about saints that were resurrected? No, these are people dying. This is the judgment period when the rest of the dead are raised. As saints we will know all things, history included. Paul even said so:
1 Cor. 13:12 "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."
Think about it.
No, the millennial kingdom is not the judgment period.
There will be some regular, natural people who make it alive through the trib, and will be allowed into the kingdom. These are the "sheep" of the "sheep and goat judgment" (Matt 25:31ff). These people will not be immortal, but will be regular people who will still procreate, and die. They are the ones who will repopulate the earth during the kingdom. It will be many of these people that Satan will convince to rebel against Christ after he is released from his chains at the end of the millennial kingdom (Rev 20:7-9).
There will be some regular, natural people who make it alive through the trib, and will be allowed into the kingdom. These are the "sheep" of the "sheep and goat judgment" (Matt 25:31ff). These people will not be immortal, but will be regular people who will still procreate, and die. They are the ones who will repopulate the earth during the kingdom. It will be many of these people that Satan will convince to rebel against Christ after he is released from his chains at the end of the millennial kingdom (Rev 20:7-9).
I never said anything about robots. So I dunno where you get that from. Yes, all animals are different. BUT they were NOT originally created to be killers of each other or humans. We were ALL created to live in harmony, and not be aware that humans and animals could be a danger to each other.
Animals know what they are taught. Originally they were taught (by God) to live in harmony with us. But the fall of man ruined that for all of us. Now, humans and animals are taught (by this evil world) to be fearful of one another. Especially wild animals, but not so much for domesticated animals.
Animals know what they are taught. Originally they were taught (by God) to live in harmony with us. But the fall of man ruined that for all of us. Now, humans and animals are taught (by this evil world) to be fearful of one another. Especially wild animals, but not so much for domesticated animals.