Not By Works
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Good works is still the sign of being saved. Just take a note of all those in your Christian circle that follow the model of Jesus Christ and the good works that he did day after day after day, and tell me you know someone that even remotely approaches that standard?
Remember your motto: The faithful are saved unto good works, created by Christ to do.
How many in your circle are doing good works regularly?
Remember your motto: The faithful are saved unto good works, created by Christ to do.
How many in your circle are doing good works regularly?
And so the endless false gospel of works salvation is taught against in all the churches, and the end result of preaching agains good works, is that good works is not thought of as a necessary element in the true gospel, and therefore good works are even looked down as a satanic work to adjust your focus off the cross and Jesus. So very little inspiring good works are being accomplished in the churches these days and that is one of the reasons we are seeing a decline in membership and attendance.
Good works is not a foolproof indicator that someone is saved. There are many atheists who are great humanitarians and philanthropists, but they do not believe in God.
Likewise, lacking good works does not mean a person is not saved. 1 Cor 3:11-15 shows that even if a Christian's works are all burned up (IOW: he has no good works), he will still be saved. We aren't saved by works, but by faith in Christ (Eph 2:8-9). The fact that we were saved to do good works does not mean all Christians will do them.
Likewise, lacking good works does not mean a person is not saved. 1 Cor 3:11-15 shows that even if a Christian's works are all burned up (IOW: he has no good works), he will still be saved. We aren't saved by works, but by faith in Christ (Eph 2:8-9). The fact that we were saved to do good works does not mean all Christians will do them.
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Typical strawman argument from someone who does not understand what is going on.
NO ONE is teaching against good works. Get off your high horse, and stop with the lies Dude, We get sick of them.
and ps. Paul spent most of his NT writting teaching against the false gospel of works. so the churches should follow pauls leads, and endlessely stand against the false gospel of works.
NO ONE is teaching against good works. Get off your high horse, and stop with the lies Dude, We get sick of them.
and ps. Paul spent most of his NT writting teaching against the false gospel of works. so the churches should follow pauls leads, and endlessely stand against the false gospel of works.
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may I ask why you think your good works will cause God to ignore all of your death sentances (the penalty of sin is death, so count your sins that you know of since birth, then probably add a million more (the ones we do not know or forgot) and you have an idea how many death sentances you have right now against you) and just go against his own justice and righteounsess and allow you into heaven?
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"If you don't agree with me, you're believing doctrines of men".
"If you don't agree with me, you are incapable of seeing the truth".
"If you don't agree with me, you are in error".
Sheesh...
For sure, not everyone is right. And for sure, Christians disagree on many things, some big, and some insignificant. But it is sad that we can't disagree without belittling and insulting those who disagree with us.
"If you don't agree with me, you are incapable of seeing the truth".
"If you don't agree with me, you are in error".
Sheesh...
For sure, not everyone is right. And for sure, Christians disagree on many things, some big, and some insignificant. But it is sad that we can't disagree without belittling and insulting those who disagree with us.
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i have answered every single post directed at me from him that ive seen
i have never ignored a scripture and done my best to show ben the truth everything he asked of me said i would "ignore scriptures"
this is a lie
and an insult
also
from his posts ive seen him only teach a works based salvation
also many lies that go directly against the gospel of Jesus
you can quote me and act like im the bad guy
but no
i dont care if someone disagrees with me
but i speak up when i see lies
you just imputed the "disagree with me" bit to me
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Hi Stunnedbygrace, I sometimes have the same reaction to his preaching, a gifted man of God. Quote: His theology is more or less Calvinist but he thinks of himself as a, "mere Christian." nice to see you back again and on our
"New Modified Formate", God bless!
I hope this biography wasn't to long, "Reading and Christianity seem to go hand in hand."
Charles Spurgeon
Finest nineteenth-century preacher
Quote:
"I am perhaps vulgar, but it is not intentional, save that I must and will make people listen."
When Charles Spurgeon died in January 1892, London went into mourning. Nearly 60,000 people came to pay homage during the three days his body lay in state at the Metropolitan Tabernacle. Some 100,000 lined the streets as a funeral parade two miles long followed his hearse from the Tabernacle to the cemetery. Flags flew at half-staff and shops and pubs were closed.
His formal education was limited, even by nineteenth-century standards: he attended local schools for a few years but never earned a university degree. Though he eschewed formal education, all his life he valued learning and books—especially those by Puritan divines—and his personal library eventually exceeded 12,000 volumes.
At age 15, Spurgeon broke with family tradition by becoming a Baptist. He attributed this conversion to a sermon heard by "chance"—when a snowstorm blew him away from his destination into a Primitive Methodist chapel.
His theology, however, remained more or less Calvinist, though he liked to think of himself as a "mere Christian." "I am never ashamed to avow myself a Calvinist," he once said. "I do not hesitate to take the name of Baptist, but if I am asked what is my creed, I reply, 'It is Jesus Christ.'"
His energy and oratorical skills and harmonious voice earned him such a reputation that within a year and a half, he was invited to preach in London, at the historic New Park Street Chapel. The congregation of 232 was so impressed, it voted for him to preach an additional six months. He moved to the city and never left.
Spurgeon replied, "I am perhaps vulgar, but it is not intentional, save that I must and will make people listen. My firm conviction is that we have had enough polite preachers."
On certain subjects, he was incapable of moderation: Rome, ritualism, hypocrisy, and modernism—the last of which became the center of a controversy that would mark his last years in ministry.
Spurgeon's contributions were larger than his pulpit, however. He established alms houses and an orphanage, and his Pastor's College, opened in 1855, continues to this day. He preached his last sermon in June 1891 and died six months later.
"New Modified Formate", God bless!
I hope this biography wasn't to long, "Reading and Christianity seem to go hand in hand."
Charles Spurgeon
Finest nineteenth-century preacher
Quote:
"I am perhaps vulgar, but it is not intentional, save that I must and will make people listen."
When Charles Spurgeon died in January 1892, London went into mourning. Nearly 60,000 people came to pay homage during the three days his body lay in state at the Metropolitan Tabernacle. Some 100,000 lined the streets as a funeral parade two miles long followed his hearse from the Tabernacle to the cemetery. Flags flew at half-staff and shops and pubs were closed.
His formal education was limited, even by nineteenth-century standards: he attended local schools for a few years but never earned a university degree. Though he eschewed formal education, all his life he valued learning and books—especially those by Puritan divines—and his personal library eventually exceeded 12,000 volumes.
At age 15, Spurgeon broke with family tradition by becoming a Baptist. He attributed this conversion to a sermon heard by "chance"—when a snowstorm blew him away from his destination into a Primitive Methodist chapel.
His theology, however, remained more or less Calvinist, though he liked to think of himself as a "mere Christian." "I am never ashamed to avow myself a Calvinist," he once said. "I do not hesitate to take the name of Baptist, but if I am asked what is my creed, I reply, 'It is Jesus Christ.'"
His energy and oratorical skills and harmonious voice earned him such a reputation that within a year and a half, he was invited to preach in London, at the historic New Park Street Chapel. The congregation of 232 was so impressed, it voted for him to preach an additional six months. He moved to the city and never left.
Spurgeon replied, "I am perhaps vulgar, but it is not intentional, save that I must and will make people listen. My firm conviction is that we have had enough polite preachers."
On certain subjects, he was incapable of moderation: Rome, ritualism, hypocrisy, and modernism—the last of which became the center of a controversy that would mark his last years in ministry.
Spurgeon's contributions were larger than his pulpit, however. He established alms houses and an orphanage, and his Pastor's College, opened in 1855, continues to this day. He preached his last sermon in June 1891 and died six months later.
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We are not saved by works, but your faith in Christ leads to unto good works that Jesus creates for you to do. So to be about our Fathers business is to be about good works with a joy that we are in Christ.
Of course it does not matter to an atheist if they do good works.
I do not doubt the resurrection of the body, and I believe it will be glorified flesh with the abiity to eat and digest earth food, just like the scripture tells us.
Of course it does not matter to an atheist if they do good works.
I do not doubt the resurrection of the body, and I believe it will be glorified flesh with the abiity to eat and digest earth food, just like the scripture tells us.
I have never been to a church building that preaches against Good works or looks down on good works for a believer , thats just silly !
And also Ive seen many churches who do tons of Good works and accomplish alot of great things helping those in need
I have been to plenty who ADD good works to the Gospel , which is probably more of the reason why they decline in attendance
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