Homosexuality = Wrong CHOICE

Because we live in a fallen world, we are all essentially predisposed to sin- we are sinful in our very flesh, yes, but I mean we each are More susceptible to certain types of sin. For instance, I’m no thief, nor am I an alcoholic, or a murderer- but I have my own laundry list of sinful behaviors that I lean towards.

I believe this is Why so many people think they were born gay- because of our individual predispositions towards particular temptations. But it is absolutely a Choice- or a series of choices- that lead us down those paths.

People are NOT born gay. That's ridiculous. They may get exposure to that behavior later on in life, but they're NOT born as a gay person...

​Sigh,this again? How long are we going to go round this circle?!

As long as people keep making threads like this.. lol

Exactly.. If God created them gay, or a murderer, or an adulterer or whatever, then those things wouldn't be a sin.. We could just blame God and say, "He made me that way"..

Agree with you here brother. I want to be adamant that because I say that we are born with a sin nature, that is NOT an excuse to sin. The choice to act on that sin nature is on us. BUT, Scripture says the natural man CANNOT stop sinning, he MUST be born again. That's why it's so paramount to deliver the Gospel to the unsaved.

This fellow today needed to hear the pure, unadulterated Gospel. He needs to be prayed for, and hopefully he will accept it. I am with you that if he is not convicted in any way by his homosexual sin it is unlikely he has the Holy Spirit.

I think this discussion just needs to be dropped for the most part. Things change in the modern world and Christianity has always adjusted. At this point its just a matter of "Do you like oatmeal or chocolate chip?" Are you born liking chocolate chip or did you learn it?.... Neither? It's just how it is. God wants us to learn and evaluate what is right and wrong and to be knowledgable of the world and it's people. I think we need to stop thinking so hard about where other people like to put their body parts and think why it ever mattered in the first place. Back then homosexuals might have been seen as overly promiscuous or doing the act somehow hurt the population as a whole because sin is just animal instincts that value ourselves over people. But now a days we need to evaluate and think if this applies to us anymore. Im, in no way, officially stating my stance on this topic, nor will I side with either one, But like many other rules in the bible we need to sit down together and wonder if this topic applies today as it did back then.

But I dont think it's a choice. Could you choose to be gay if you tried? If you sat down and focused could you make yourself attracted to the same sex? Is EVERY SINGLE gay person in the world just faking it and forcing it on themselves even when they hang around their husbands and wives and are free from judgment for.. Just because? Gay people are people just like you. Everything about them is the same except they like a different cookie than you. Can you force yourself to eat oatmeal cookies and like it? And if so why would you?
We have enough people and enough thinkers now that we can open our minds and discuss.

When Adam and Eve severed, which means severe damage, the anointing that God had on them, They awakened what we call the six senses, and that caused them to wonder own their own, and do what they felt like doing., And it felt good to them. That is what we inherited.

I've ministered to many gay people in my short time on earth, and I have not met one who claimed they could simply choose to find someone of the opposite sex attractive or simply choose to unlike someone of the same sex.

This is where the OP loses me. "God doesn't create sin..." God doesn't force His children to sin, but God does define sin behavior. Or in other words, God is the author of sin. We can define sin as doing anything contrary to the word of God. Abraham not being willing to kill his son at God's command would have been a sin in spite of murder in all other instances being a sin (of course God was just testing Abraham and told him not to do it after all). When I am married, I am not going to suddenly stop finding other females attractive. It doesn't work that way. My attraction to other women when/if I'm married ISN'T A SIN, it's acting on it that is the sin.

The OP blames the fall/sin nature and not God for why people "choose" to be gay. Or maybe God allows us to have weaknesses for reasons unknown. Maybe it's to remind us that we need a Saviour... that we need Him. The fundamental disagree is that I don't think someone being born with an attraction to the same sex is a sin whatsoever. That isn't to say ACTING on that desire is acceptable to God, because it absolutely isn't. But we can't ignore logic and reason and say "Gay people cannot be born with a predisposition to finding someone of the same sex attractive."

To say something is a choice is to say there are multiple options right? Either someone "chooses" to find someone of the same sex attractive (homosexual), or they "choose" to find someone of the opposite sex attractive (heterosexual). I didn't choose to be heterosexual... I just am. Fortunately, I have authority from God's word to act on my desires but with certain restrictions. If and when I'm married, I cannot ACT my heterosexual desires for example. It's not because of "sin nature" that I find other women attractive... it's because I was born with a predisposition to finding women attractive (thankfully).

I really like what you said why would anyone chose to live an unaccepted lifestyle on purpose there's alot of hate and bullying torwards gays. I feel every one needs good in there life thank you

Homosexuality is one of the fruits of perversion. A person who is engaging in homosexual acts are under the influence of a demon. That homosexual spirit is in them and it needs to be cast out.

It's not a choice to be gay. It's not a choice to be straight. It's not a choice to be Bi. It's not a choice to be anything on the LGBTQ+ spectrum. You don't have to "approve" but why can't they live their lives? They're not affecting you at all.

That's a straight up lie right there.

Is that so?

It's not a matter of what WE think, it's in the Bible. I take it you're not religious, yet you come among the religious for comfort?There's no scientific proof of "born gay." People don't choose to be rapists, it doesn't mean that rape is natural and we should accept it. I actually once met a woman who did indeed choose to be lesbian. She was horribly traumatized by being raped several times that she admittedly became so afraid of men she chose to turn lesbian. I spoke with her about letting go of the fear of men, and last I heard from her years ago was that she was starting to date men again. I would strongly suggest you don't frame your opinions based on popular public opinion egged on by partisan media. The media NEVER tell the whole story on any subject.

I think there are many times when traumas and disordered childhood experiences of one kind or another do it. I've found a lot of gay men speak of their first sexual experience being molested/raped by an older man. I don't think that's an accident.

There shouldn't be hate or bullying towards gays, and frankly, now the hate and bullying is mostly FROM gays and their allies.