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I love this scripture. It is attainable, cause it was attainable for her. Just because she was a virtuous woman does not mean she was flawless- “all sin and fall short of the glory of God.”
And for men (or any Christian) Daniel was also of good virtue- to the point no one could find sin in him. But the Bible says even he did sin. So being virtuous is very attainable- just practice virtues in spite of the fact that you are not flawless, but made flawless in Christ “without blemish and free from accusation if you remain faithful.”
And for men (or any Christian) Daniel was also of good virtue- to the point no one could find sin in him. But the Bible says even he did sin. So being virtuous is very attainable- just practice virtues in spite of the fact that you are not flawless, but made flawless in Christ “without blemish and free from accusation if you remain faithful.”
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My two cents
Since judgment begins with the church we can understand it’s a spiritual matter based on the order of headship .
Men desiring to give it over that women burn their bras in protest as an example . Men like Adam turning his head away from walking by faith, looking for instance gratification doing the will of that seen a serpent described as the most beautiful creature in the garden before the fall. Some describe it as multicolored, psychedelic at term of the 60's possibly like some of the deep seas creatures that can put on a light show and cause wonderment. .
Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
The lust of the flesh and lust of the eye caused the pride by which he fell. (instant gratification)
1John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
It the kind of government we have as flesh and blood creatures. The wages of woman should of never been an issue to begin with or anything that make them into a different kind of creation. God created mankind as one creation to represent his likeness. Male and female, two separate creations, he made the rest of creatures .
One thing I have noticed which I think could of helped maintain order in the church seeing it is where judgement begins . is the way we celebrate the ceremonial law as part of the new reformed government in respect to the hair covering and uncovering from the men as one law that applies to both and how it is connected to the breaking of bread ceremony together as one tradition as to its spiritual purpose which is all but lost . While men make it about a woman’s fashion statement like burning a bra , they dismiss their own selves being accustomed to not wear a hair covering in a building.
Looking at the apostate Jews who are still waiting for Christ to come in the flesh they have the sign on their heads just as the Catholic men of leadership. Both following laws of men called a law of the fathers..
You could say when Eve burned her bra by eating of the fruit of doing the will another... both as one creation became naked .The headship changed to the god of this world( 1John 2:16)
Since judgment begins with the church we can understand it’s a spiritual matter based on the order of headship .
Men desiring to give it over that women burn their bras in protest as an example . Men like Adam turning his head away from walking by faith, looking for instance gratification doing the will of that seen a serpent described as the most beautiful creature in the garden before the fall. Some describe it as multicolored, psychedelic at term of the 60's possibly like some of the deep seas creatures that can put on a light show and cause wonderment. .
Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
The lust of the flesh and lust of the eye caused the pride by which he fell. (instant gratification)
1John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
It the kind of government we have as flesh and blood creatures. The wages of woman should of never been an issue to begin with or anything that make them into a different kind of creation. God created mankind as one creation to represent his likeness. Male and female, two separate creations, he made the rest of creatures .
One thing I have noticed which I think could of helped maintain order in the church seeing it is where judgement begins . is the way we celebrate the ceremonial law as part of the new reformed government in respect to the hair covering and uncovering from the men as one law that applies to both and how it is connected to the breaking of bread ceremony together as one tradition as to its spiritual purpose which is all but lost . While men make it about a woman’s fashion statement like burning a bra , they dismiss their own selves being accustomed to not wear a hair covering in a building.
Looking at the apostate Jews who are still waiting for Christ to come in the flesh they have the sign on their heads just as the Catholic men of leadership. Both following laws of men called a law of the fathers..
You could say when Eve burned her bra by eating of the fruit of doing the will another... both as one creation became naked .The headship changed to the god of this world( 1John 2:16)
That's the kicker right there.. 
Finding a woman like that would be like finding the lost ark..
Finding a woman like that would be like finding the lost ark..
I found a pearl without looking .Like winning the lottery without buying a ticket.
I have a wise wife who finds me when I hide. LOL (A little bit of truth..)
I used to tell a joke and in many cases was called a male chauvinist. It was only funny when two people were laughing. If you grin you’re in.
It went like this.In the beginning God created the heavens and earth and would pronounce it is good... putting his seal approval on it . But the first thing he said that was not good was for man to be alone ,which is true.
He then when on to tell him of this virtuous woman who would go for coffee, rub his back ,never talk back and as he was adding Adam said to his own self .Wow this is going to cost me an arm and a leg! Turning around he said the God .What can I get for a rib?
My Wife, the wise good looking one said to me . That’s it you men want that which cost everything, for nothing ...and calls me a caveman. Most of us need a help meet getting out of the man cave.
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OH I do understand what you are saying, we live in a real world and many are in bondage, my hope would be that those that are followers of Christ would be lead by the Holy Spirit honoring each other in all ways unto the Lord.....I do understand what your saying, but yet I know with God there can be wonderful marriages, where both husband and wife have God 1st place in there life and then each other 2nd place...I am one of those who has a wonderful Godly marriage....sis I was married years ago at 19 to another man who slapped me a few times also verbally abused me at times....then after 15 years of marriage it ended because of unfaithfulness on his part....he was not a Christian...I see where your coming from but....with God all things are possible....my husband now is a strong man of God....these verses are attainable as God is our help...like you said sis with the husband and the wife following after God His work is done in us and through us...and then what comes to pass is a truly Godly marriage...and yes there is a lot in these verses to glean from, I am sorry you have seen so much heart ache....but know this dear one God changes lives and makes things new and through Christ Jesus there is freedom.....each person has a walk with God if He is there Lord to be directed and lead by His word and His Spirit...His ways brings peace and rest......and there is hope for the hopeless that is in Christ...love in Christ Sherril...
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When each of us as Christ followers grow in the strength of our Lord as we learn of Jesus and becoming more like our Lord and His ways, not taking each other for granted....Love is key! (Gods love as He is love....then knowing and receiving His love toward us then we are able to give His love to others....John 13:34-35.....A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.....this applies in all of our lives....love in Christ Sherril....
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I actually have found a virtuous women and my future wife she just is unable to see it and she would say the same thing of me (husband wise) The virtuous heart is not perfect nor is it found without any weakness or lacking because we are human after all but a virtuous heart is clearly seen and known by others the issue is the one bearing this heart often times does not see nor believe what others do in them and often times needs see through others eyes to really be able to see things about themselves.
More people have a virtuous heart than they think, the op for instance from reading her post I can tell she has this kind of heart. The fact that she treasures such traits and encourages her fellow women to follow the path that was set out by the word of God makes that clear, sure anyone can post scripture and and encourage others to follow it but there is just something in the words of certain people that stand out maybe it's the way they speak it or perhaps instead it's just sensing the heart and the holy spirit in their words.
More people have a virtuous heart than they think, the op for instance from reading her post I can tell she has this kind of heart. The fact that she treasures such traits and encourages her fellow women to follow the path that was set out by the word of God makes that clear, sure anyone can post scripture and and encourage others to follow it but there is just something in the words of certain people that stand out maybe it's the way they speak it or perhaps instead it's just sensing the heart and the holy spirit in their words.
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If only we could have had a picture of the virtuous woman's husband. It does not sound like he was controlling in any way, and probably nourished her with his love so that it brought out her virtues and capabilities. He allowed her to work (buying a field), and allowed her to spend money on rich clothing.
We do see that her husband trusted her completely, and must have had great qualities of his own since he was well known in the gates and was an elder.
What seems funny to me is that he "sat" around in the gates, and it looks like she did all the work at home. From buying a field, to planting it, to bringing in food from afar, all while she had to raise her children, sew their clothes and weave linen to sell. She brought in all the money? It tires me to even think of it.
Maybe I just don't want to be quite that virtuous.
(I do know it is a parable, just could not help but have some fun with it)
We do see that her husband trusted her completely, and must have had great qualities of his own since he was well known in the gates and was an elder.
What seems funny to me is that he "sat" around in the gates, and it looks like she did all the work at home. From buying a field, to planting it, to bringing in food from afar, all while she had to raise her children, sew their clothes and weave linen to sell. She brought in all the money? It tires me to even think of it.
Maybe I just don't want to be quite that virtuous.
(I do know it is a parable, just could not help but have some fun with it)
The Proverbs 31 woman is one that we can all aspire to by the power of the Holy Spirit living inside of us. As we submit our life to the One who paid the highest price for us and redeemed us with His sacrificial love, we are empowered to be virtuous women and (men). We are indeed precious in the sight of God and He loves us with an everlasting love.
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A bit of bitterness in your reply and rightly so. But the Lord has risen up such women.....I'm married to one.
I was honored to speak these same words in the o.p. at my sons wedding last month to discribe my now daughter in law.
These virtues are what attracted him.
In the cases that you discribe can you honestly say that they were founded on the same quest?
We're the men looking for such a women? And like wise the women looking for this in the men?
What ever commentary you read was a bit off course in my opinion. A true woman of God is such a blessing. She is very powerful and the very fabric that keeps the marriage a marriage.
I was honored to speak these same words in the o.p. at my sons wedding last month to discribe my now daughter in law.
These virtues are what attracted him.
In the cases that you discribe can you honestly say that they were founded on the same quest?
We're the men looking for such a women? And like wise the women looking for this in the men?
What ever commentary you read was a bit off course in my opinion. A true woman of God is such a blessing. She is very powerful and the very fabric that keeps the marriage a marriage.
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