Doubt in Bible :separation of man and woman

Mark 1o : 9 Therefore what God has joined together , let not man separate."


29 So Jesus answered and said , "Assuredly , I say to you , there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands , for My sake and the gospel's ,


im in a doubt..though I'm a teen, these verses confuse me...
because i thought man and woman may be separated... if either of the spouse donst want to be interested in the Bible, and the other does since the latter verse says so.
But here's my dilemma : the former verse says what God has joined together no man can separate!
i do hope that I'll be cleared off my confusion by the Grace of God

unfortunately, so very often it is not Jesus who has 'joined-together', but quite the opposite,
it is satan that will have his way when we are in the world and serving him, even though
we think quite the opposite...sad to say, I have fallen to the very depths of his deceit,
but we are now able to 'rejoice' in our deliverance from this fallen-world...

Ok... So you mean if a spouse is not interested in evangelization but the other is, they have the freedom to separate? But that's my confusion... doesn't Mark 10:9 say against it? In this case how can we lead the other spouse to like evangelization? Because in some Christian denominations, evangelization is only through actions...
thanks a lot for your reply!

You have to read all the Gospels to get an accurate picture..

Matthew 19: KJV
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Do you see the exception.. If the woman commits fornication,, that being is unfaithful to her husband then he can divorce her.

Also Paul said that if a Christian is married to an unbeliever and that unbeliever wants to leave then the Christian can remarry.

1 Corinthians 7 KJV
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

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If the unbelieving partner wants to stay married then the Bible says remain with them.. But if they desire to leave then let them go...

1 Corinthians 7: KJV
12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

I think that its about who do u obey - parents? Or husband? Or wife? (I they require of u to forsake and neglect the Lord) Or God? Blessed r u, when u choose to obey the Lord in spite of the hardships! In Acts Peter said "U judge whether we ought to obey God or humans!"

Correction - not "can remarry", but "can depart". Very different thing.

Well the woman needs to be under the care and protection of a man. So..she is advised to remarry.

Btw if its better for us to marry (for those without the gift of singleness) then why the church is so indifferent about our needs and do nothing to help us? The church is so worldly and currupted nowadays..

Every local church is different, do not judge all churches according to yours.

She is not advised to remarry. In my Bible she is allowed (not advised) to depart (not to remarry).

U didnt read Timothy 5, did u?

I will look at it.

This is a very emotional subject filled with pain and anxiety.

The scripture teaches that God does not condone divorce but for the sake of the hardness of their hearts Moses gave them a writing of divorcement.

He who marries a woman or a woman who marries a man who has been divorced is guilty of adultery. So while there is provision for divorce there is a prohibition against remarriage.

Here again there is allowance made for those who are unable to remain single that burn in their hearts to remarry but it is again only by the mercy of God. This means that if one is to remarry as a Christian they must consider with all gravity the weight of the decision they are making. In other words do not remarry with the same cavalier attitude that led to the first divorce.

Compassion for the divorced is necessary and they need lots of prayer support. I know of a number of folks that are remarried and they are solid Christians. They live everyday with the knowledge of how blessed they are that God has provided for them a spouse that honors the Lord. They do not take their second opportunity to honor God in their marriage lightly.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

"As for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry.
Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge.
Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense.
So I counsel younger widows to marry."
(1Tm 5)

1. This is about widows (their husband is already dead). It is not about divorced women.
2. Paul does not sound very happy about it, its more like "lesser evil".

It is God that is putting asunder, not man, when one forsakes all to follow Christ. we cannot think of this matter with our carnal mind, as in a flesh and blood matter.

I recomend u to listen John Macarthur (from the evangelical protestant church Grace to You) for this topic at* Grace to You Its about widows and what the word actually means in greek and why there is younger and older spoken separately and what is that list they r talking about and what actually the church of Timothy were doing and what is the right thing that should be done (as Paul was apostole of Christ and received his revelation and understandings straight from the Lord). I hope i was useful.

Started so well and then fell into human devices, please will you tell me, us, where burning in their hearts is for those who have divorced? Yes it is mentioned by Paul for those not yet married but not for those who are divorced. Someone who was married and gets re married except for the death of a partner commits adultery and will not see the kingdom of God. when did Jesus change His mind?

You need to read your scriptures daily. Don't believe what others tell you without checking it out first. Salvation is too important for that.

We will all stand before the judgement thrown of Christ and give account of our lives. Telling Jesus that we did what pastor Joe told us will not suffice, Jesus will ask you if you heard Him and were you obedient. Jesus talks through scripture, Jesus wrote the scriptures. Go to Jesus and ask Him.

AS for the passage you have mentioned, this is talking about being faithful to Jesus and where our loyalties lie. Do they lie within the physical temporal world or with God? Some day we will all have to make a choice, some have already made one.

God bless.

Thank you all for your support through the Blessed Word! These opinions were really helpful in helping me to think deep!



But I think my question was not properly put. I will briefly explain my doubt in an anecdote.
Say there is a husband "X" and a wife "Y" Both of them were in a denomination where evangelisation was not justified fully . as I said in my second post, The means of evangelization was only through actions.
Now X and Y join another denomination where evangelization means - Explaining the Word properly to anyone (this is mainly through talking out what the Bible says)
Y finds it difficult to be in the new denomination while X finds it okay. Both of them have their differences in their opinions based on the method of evangelization.

the problem: Y wants to separate from X (but this doesn't mean divorce but just living separately and there is no remarriage taking place)

X is in dilemma.

Mark 10:9 says that what God has joined together let no man separate. So X should agree with Y and live together and X would have to leave the new denomination so that Y is alright.

Mark 10:29 explains how a person can separate from anyone including the spouse which God has joined together So X can allow Y to be separated.

No wonder the Word of God is described as the sharpest Double edged sword!
I'm really sorry, that I explained the question very late :/