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Ahhh I have heard of this one or his beliefs. I had a friend who followed his teachings and they believe Eve and the serpent had sexual relations and Eve conceived. The tree's weren't actually tree's but Jesus and Satan. So if this is the case then Adam had sexual relations with Satan as well because he partook of the tree. Kinda crazy talk to me.
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I've just been looking up a few things different websites, some suggest he was ok
at the start and had a gift for healing, then decended into strangeness and went off the
rails to become more of a cult.
Others suggest he mixed christianity with Wicca beliefs and he was a Freemason.
What everyone seems to agree about is his treatment of women as if they are lesser
mortals and an after thought.
I don't know the truth from the supposition and since he is not here to defend himself
and since I have not got time or the inclination to listen to recordings of his sermons
then i won't say much else, other than he passed away in 1965. So it's extremely
unlikely he fulfilled Malachi 4 v 5. As far as I can seem he also doesnt appear to
have united anything either physically or spiritually.
Malachi 4:4-6 NKJV
[4] "Remember the Law of Moses, My servant, Which I commanded him
in Horeb for all Israel, With the statutes and judgments. [5] Behold, I will
send you Elijah the prophet Before the coming of the great and dreadful
day of the LORD. [6] And he will turn The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers, Lest I come and strike the earth
with a curse."
Many suggest John the Baptist was the person as mentioned in Malachi.
See below.
Question: "Why must Elijah return before the end times (Malachi 4:5-6)?"
Answer: Malachi 4:5-6 offers an intriguing prophecy: “See, I will send you the prophet
Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the Lord comes. He will turn the hearts of the
fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come
and strike the land with a curse.” To this day, Jewish Seders include an empty chair at the
table in anticipation that Elijah will return to herald the Messiah in fulfillment of Malachi’s word.
According to Malachi 4:6, the reason for Elijah’s return will be to “turn the hearts” of fathers
and their children to each other. In other words, the goal would be reconciliation. In the New
Testament, Jesus reveals that John the Baptist was the fulfillment of Malachi’s prophecy: “All
the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah
who is to come” (Matthew 11:13-14). This fulfillment is also mentioned in Mark 1:2-4 and
Luke 1:17; 7:27.
Specifically related to Malachi 4:5-6 is Matthew 17:10-13: “His disciples asked Him,
saying, ‘Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?’ Jesus answered and
said to them, ‘Indeed, Elijah is coming first and will restore all things. But I say to you that
Elijah has come already, and they did not know him but did to him whatever they
wished. . . .’ Then the disciples understood that He spoke to them of John the Baptist.”
The scribes were the Jewish religious teachers, mostly Pharisees and Sadducees, who
provided commentary on the Jewish Scriptures. Peter, James, and John were familiar with
their teachings and asked Jesus about Elijah after seeing Jesus with Moses and Elijah at
the transfiguration (Matthew 17:1-8). Jesus clearly stated that Elijah had already come, but,
tragically, he was not recognized and had been killed. Jesus then predicted He would likewise
die at the hands of His enemies (17:13).
A brief look at the ministry of John the Baptist reveals many notable ways that he was “Elijah.” First,
God predicted John’s work as being like that of Elijah (Luke 1:17). Second, he dressed like
Elijah (2 Kings 1:8 and Matthew 3:4). Third, like Elijah, John the Baptist preached in the
wilderness (Matthew 3:1). Fourth, both men preached a message of repentance. Fifth, both
men withstood kings and had high-profile enemies (1 Kings 18:17 and Matthew 14:3).
Some argue that John the Baptist was not the Elijah to come because John himself said that
he was not Elijah. “And they asked him, ‘What then? Are you Elijah?’ He said, ‘I am not’” (John 1:21).
There are two explanations for this apparent contradiction. First, because Elijah had
never died (2 Kings 2:11), many first-century rabbis taught that Elijah was still alive and would
reappear before the Messiah’s arrival. When John denied being Elijah, he could have been
countering the idea that he was the actual Elijah who had been taken to heaven.
Second, John’s words could indicate a difference between John’s view of himself and Jesus’ view
of him. John may not have seen himself as the fulfillment of Malachi 4:5-6. However, Jesus did.
There is no contradiction, then, simply a humble prophet giving an honest opinion of himself.
John rejected the honor (cf. John 3:30), yet Jesus credited John as the fulfillment
of Malachi’s prophecy regarding the return of Elijah.
As the metaphorical Elijah, John called people to repentance and a life of obedience,
preparing the people of his generation for the coming of Jesus Christ, the One who had
come “to seek and to save what was lost” (Luke 19:10) and to establish the ministry
of reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:18).
at the start and had a gift for healing, then decended into strangeness and went off the
rails to become more of a cult.
Others suggest he mixed christianity with Wicca beliefs and he was a Freemason.
What everyone seems to agree about is his treatment of women as if they are lesser
mortals and an after thought.
I don't know the truth from the supposition and since he is not here to defend himself
and since I have not got time or the inclination to listen to recordings of his sermons
then i won't say much else, other than he passed away in 1965. So it's extremely
unlikely he fulfilled Malachi 4 v 5. As far as I can seem he also doesnt appear to
have united anything either physically or spiritually.
Malachi 4:4-6 NKJV
[4] "Remember the Law of Moses, My servant, Which I commanded him
in Horeb for all Israel, With the statutes and judgments. [5] Behold, I will
send you Elijah the prophet Before the coming of the great and dreadful
day of the LORD. [6] And he will turn The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers, Lest I come and strike the earth
with a curse."
Many suggest John the Baptist was the person as mentioned in Malachi.
See below.
Question: "Why must Elijah return before the end times (Malachi 4:5-6)?"
Answer: Malachi 4:5-6 offers an intriguing prophecy: “See, I will send you the prophet
Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the Lord comes. He will turn the hearts of the
fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come
and strike the land with a curse.” To this day, Jewish Seders include an empty chair at the
table in anticipation that Elijah will return to herald the Messiah in fulfillment of Malachi’s word.
According to Malachi 4:6, the reason for Elijah’s return will be to “turn the hearts” of fathers
and their children to each other. In other words, the goal would be reconciliation. In the New
Testament, Jesus reveals that John the Baptist was the fulfillment of Malachi’s prophecy: “All
the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah
who is to come” (Matthew 11:13-14). This fulfillment is also mentioned in Mark 1:2-4 and
Luke 1:17; 7:27.
Specifically related to Malachi 4:5-6 is Matthew 17:10-13: “His disciples asked Him,
saying, ‘Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?’ Jesus answered and
said to them, ‘Indeed, Elijah is coming first and will restore all things. But I say to you that
Elijah has come already, and they did not know him but did to him whatever they
wished. . . .’ Then the disciples understood that He spoke to them of John the Baptist.”
The scribes were the Jewish religious teachers, mostly Pharisees and Sadducees, who
provided commentary on the Jewish Scriptures. Peter, James, and John were familiar with
their teachings and asked Jesus about Elijah after seeing Jesus with Moses and Elijah at
the transfiguration (Matthew 17:1-8). Jesus clearly stated that Elijah had already come, but,
tragically, he was not recognized and had been killed. Jesus then predicted He would likewise
die at the hands of His enemies (17:13).
A brief look at the ministry of John the Baptist reveals many notable ways that he was “Elijah.” First,
God predicted John’s work as being like that of Elijah (Luke 1:17). Second, he dressed like
Elijah (2 Kings 1:8 and Matthew 3:4). Third, like Elijah, John the Baptist preached in the
wilderness (Matthew 3:1). Fourth, both men preached a message of repentance. Fifth, both
men withstood kings and had high-profile enemies (1 Kings 18:17 and Matthew 14:3).
Some argue that John the Baptist was not the Elijah to come because John himself said that
he was not Elijah. “And they asked him, ‘What then? Are you Elijah?’ He said, ‘I am not’” (John 1:21).
There are two explanations for this apparent contradiction. First, because Elijah had
never died (2 Kings 2:11), many first-century rabbis taught that Elijah was still alive and would
reappear before the Messiah’s arrival. When John denied being Elijah, he could have been
countering the idea that he was the actual Elijah who had been taken to heaven.
Second, John’s words could indicate a difference between John’s view of himself and Jesus’ view
of him. John may not have seen himself as the fulfillment of Malachi 4:5-6. However, Jesus did.
There is no contradiction, then, simply a humble prophet giving an honest opinion of himself.
John rejected the honor (cf. John 3:30), yet Jesus credited John as the fulfillment
of Malachi’s prophecy regarding the return of Elijah.
As the metaphorical Elijah, John called people to repentance and a life of obedience,
preparing the people of his generation for the coming of Jesus Christ, the One who had
come “to seek and to save what was lost” (Luke 19:10) and to establish the ministry
of reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:18).
I believe He was a false prophet.. He had failed prophecies and thus according to the Bible anyone who claims to be a prophet of God and gives a failed prophecy they are not to be feared...
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I usually do but am in too much pain this morning to think straight. I was replying
while waiting for the pain killers to get working.
Besides if copy/paste is used at least the info is all there for people to skim through.
But thanks for making this thread all about me. I'm honered I'm sure.
By the way I can be as sarcastic as the next person when I've been awake half the night
in pain.
But.....calm....ahh.....how is everyone today.
Back to Branham and the OP, I still don't think he qualifies as mentioned on
Malachi 4 v 5
