Paul And James in Total, Complete Agreement On Works
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Now where does the Bible say that? Would anyone need salvation after their sins were removed? Surely salvation included having sins removed.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise and be baptized. And wash away thy sins (by) having called on the name of the Lord."
καὶ νῦν τί μέλλεις; ἀναστὰς βάπτισαι.
Kαὶ ἀπόλουσαι τὰς ἁμαρτίας σου ἐπικαλεσάμενος τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ.
ἐπικαλεσάμενος = having called (Aorist tense)
τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ = the name of Him (His name).
1) This is Ananias' opinion (no indication Ananias was prophesying).
2) Calling on the name precedes the wash-away of sins.
As it says in Rom 10: "For whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?" This is the call of faith, which saves.
Whosoever rules out any essential addition to the call of faith.
Do not get hung up on unnecessary interpretations of a few odd passages which speak of both baptism and salvation. Nor insist that baptism is not Spirit baptism in such few passages.
Accept the plain truth of God's word, which over & over offers salvation for only believe. (Only believe, only believe . . . -- sing it.)
Salvation is offered many, many times just for believing, having faith, trusting the Lord Jesus. Such language as "whosoever believes," anyone, everyone with believe, rules out any possible essential to salvation other than faith. There is no grocery list of things to do.
Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved.
No Water; No Works.
Other passages in Acts:
43 To him bear all the prophets witness, that through his name everyone that believeth on him shall receive remission of sins.
38 Be it known unto you therefore, brethren, that through this man is proclaimed unto you remission of sins: 39 and by him everyone that believeth is justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. 40 Beware therefore, lest that come upon you which is spoken in the prophets:
16 But arise, and stand upon thy feet: for to this end have I appeared unto thee, to appoint thee a minister and a witness both of the things wherein thou hast seen me, and of the things wherein I will appear unto thee; 17 delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom I send thee, 18 to open their eyes, that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive remission of sins and an inheritance among them that are sanctified by faith in me.
NO WATER, NO WORKS
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise and be baptized. And wash away thy sins (by) having called on the name of the Lord."
καὶ νῦν τί μέλλεις; ἀναστὰς βάπτισαι.
Kαὶ ἀπόλουσαι τὰς ἁμαρτίας σου ἐπικαλεσάμενος τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ.
ἐπικαλεσάμενος = having called (Aorist tense)
τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ = the name of Him (His name).
1) This is Ananias' opinion (no indication Ananias was prophesying).
2) Calling on the name precedes the wash-away of sins.
As it says in Rom 10: "For whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?" This is the call of faith, which saves.
Whosoever rules out any essential addition to the call of faith.
Do not get hung up on unnecessary interpretations of a few odd passages which speak of both baptism and salvation. Nor insist that baptism is not Spirit baptism in such few passages.
Accept the plain truth of God's word, which over & over offers salvation for only believe. (Only believe, only believe . . . -- sing it.)
Salvation is offered many, many times just for believing, having faith, trusting the Lord Jesus. Such language as "whosoever believes," anyone, everyone with believe, rules out any possible essential to salvation other than faith. There is no grocery list of things to do.
Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved.
No Water; No Works.
Other passages in Acts:
43 To him bear all the prophets witness, that through his name everyone that believeth on him shall receive remission of sins.
38 Be it known unto you therefore, brethren, that through this man is proclaimed unto you remission of sins: 39 and by him everyone that believeth is justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. 40 Beware therefore, lest that come upon you which is spoken in the prophets:
16 But arise, and stand upon thy feet: for to this end have I appeared unto thee, to appoint thee a minister and a witness both of the things wherein thou hast seen me, and of the things wherein I will appear unto thee; 17 delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom I send thee, 18 to open their eyes, that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive remission of sins and an inheritance among them that are sanctified by faith in me.
NO WATER, NO WORKS
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I see you have resorted to writing your own bible? give me the version that states what you wrote above in it?
This is a miss interpretation of the "Aorist Participle" trying to force it to "past tense" :
"The assumption that the Aorist Participle properly denotes past time, from the point of view either of the speaker or of the principal verb, leads to constant misinterpretation of the form. The action denoted by the Aorist Participle may be past, present, or future with Reference to the speaker, and antecedent to, coincident with, or subsequent to, the action of the principal verb. The Aorist Participle, like the participles of the other tenses, may be most simply thought of as a noun or adjective, the designation of one who performs the action denoted by the verb, and like any other noun or adjective timeless. The distinction of the Aorist Participle is not that it expresses a different time-relation from that expressed by the Present or Perfect, but that it conceives of the action denoted by it, not as in progress (Present), nor as an existing result (Perfect), but as a simple fact. ([SIZE=+1]Ernest De Will Burton explained this more thoroughly here) [/SIZE]
Notice how other real versions translate it calling:
Acts 22:16 (YLT) and now, why tarriest thou? having risen, baptize thyself, and wash away thy sins, calling upon the name of the Lord.
Water baptism is only a part of "Calling on the name of the Lord" and why only baptism is mentioned here:
Acts 9:17-18 (NKJV) [SUP]17 [/SUP] And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." [SUP]18 [/SUP] Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.
"Faith alone" will not save you, "Baptism alone" will not save you, "Nothing Alone" will not save you. Baptism requires "Faith" and "Faith" requires at the very least these: "Hearing", "Believing","Repenting", "Confessing Christ the Son of God", "Being baptized", and "Living Faithful the rest of your life"
This is a miss interpretation of the "Aorist Participle" trying to force it to "past tense" :
"The assumption that the Aorist Participle properly denotes past time, from the point of view either of the speaker or of the principal verb, leads to constant misinterpretation of the form. The action denoted by the Aorist Participle may be past, present, or future with Reference to the speaker, and antecedent to, coincident with, or subsequent to, the action of the principal verb. The Aorist Participle, like the participles of the other tenses, may be most simply thought of as a noun or adjective, the designation of one who performs the action denoted by the verb, and like any other noun or adjective timeless. The distinction of the Aorist Participle is not that it expresses a different time-relation from that expressed by the Present or Perfect, but that it conceives of the action denoted by it, not as in progress (Present), nor as an existing result (Perfect), but as a simple fact. ([SIZE=+1]Ernest De Will Burton explained this more thoroughly here) [/SIZE]
Notice how other real versions translate it calling:
Acts 22:16 (YLT) and now, why tarriest thou? having risen, baptize thyself, and wash away thy sins, calling upon the name of the Lord.
Water baptism is only a part of "Calling on the name of the Lord" and why only baptism is mentioned here:
Acts 9:17-18 (NKJV) [SUP]17 [/SUP] And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." [SUP]18 [/SUP] Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.
"Faith alone" will not save you, "Baptism alone" will not save you, "Nothing Alone" will not save you. Baptism requires "Faith" and "Faith" requires at the very least these: "Hearing", "Believing","Repenting", "Confessing Christ the Son of God", "Being baptized", and "Living Faithful the rest of your life"
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