Obama from Berlin: Climate Change is the Global Threat of Our Time

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“The common enemy of humanity is man.

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.

The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

- Club of Rome

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searching for a new enemy to unite us
we came up with the idea
pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like
would fit the bill
 

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Climategate scientists DID collude with government officials to hide research that didn't fit their apocalyptic global warming

By ROB WAUGH
UPDATED: 08:53 GMT, 28 November 2011

Former Chancellor Nigel Lawson was strongly critical of those who supported the 'Climategate' scientists

More than 5,000 documents have been leaked online purporting to be the correspondence of climate scientists at the University of East Anglia who were previously accused of ‘massaging’ evidence of man-made climate change.

Following on from the original 'climategate' emails of 2009, the new package appears to show systematic suppression of evidence, and even publication of reports that scientists knew to to be based on flawed approaches.

And not only do the emails paint a picture of scientists manipulating data, government employees at the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) are also implicated.

One message appeared to show a member of Defra staff telling colleagues working on climate science to give the government a ‘strong message’.

The emails paint a clear picture of scientists selectively using data, and colluding with politicians to misuse scientific information.

‘Humphrey’, said to work at Defra, writes: ‘I cannot overstate the HUGE amount of political interest in the project as a message that the government can give on climate change to help them tell their story.

'They want their story to be a very strong one and don’t want to be made to look foolish.’

Professor Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit at the centre of the affair, said the group findings did stand up to scrutiny.

Yet one of the newly released emails, written by Prof. Jones - who is working with the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) - said: 'Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden.

'I’ve discussed this with the main funder (U.S. Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.'



The University of East Anglia, where most of the emails originated - none of the newly released emails appear to be post 2009, but clarify the extent of government involvement in the scandal

In another of his emails, he wrote: 'I’ve been told that Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is above national Freedom of Information Acts.

'One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process.'

Climate change fears 'have been exaggerated' say scientists who claim apocalyptic predictions are unlikely
Other scientists are clearly against such a policy, but some seemed happy to collude with concealing and destroying evidence.

One nervous scientist wrote: 'The figure you sent is very deceptive.'

'I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run,' wrote another.

The lead author of one of the reports, Jonathan Overpeck, wrote, 'The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guide what’s included and what is left out.'

A weak performance by Environment Secretary Chris Huhne on Question Time has helped to inflame the row over the second leak of private UEA emails - now described as Climategate 2.0.


Professor Phil Jones, Director of the Climatic Research Unit, appears before the Science and Technology Committee after the last dump of leaked climate-change emails

Former Chancellor Nigel Lawson's Global Warming Policy Foundation warned against ignoring 'shortcomings' in a letter strongly critical of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

It said: 'The BBC, in determining its policy towards the coverage of global warming, which is of course not simply a scientific issue but an economic and a political issue, too, ought to shred that section of the Jones review and revert to the impartiality laid down in its charter.'

He was also strongly critical of sections of the media who lent support to the scientists.

Andrew Orlwowski, UK science site The Register's science correspondent comments on one email that says, 'What if climate change turns out to be a natural fluctuation? They'll kill us all'

'The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering.'


Orlowski says, 'That won't be necessary.'

Clive Crook, a commentator for the Atlantic, who described the earlier inquiries into the Climategate emails as 'ineffectual' and 'mealy mouthed', reportedly said, 'The closed-mindedness of these supposed men of science, their willingness to go to any lengths to defend a preconceived message, is surprising even to me.

'The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering.'

There is other correspondence from scientists such as Prof Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Centre at Penn State University, some of which have a distinct feel of PR 'spin'.

The release of the information echoes the 'Climategate' leaks of hacked private emails two years ago ahead of crunch climate talks in Copenhagen that referred to ways to ‘hide the decline’ in global warming.

A series of independent reviews cleared the East Anglia researchers of impropriety, but they were told they had been too secretive.

Today's leak may also be timed to disrupt the next session of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change next week in South Africa.


The new email leak is accompanied by a text file which appears to protest against the huge expense of anti-warming technologies - highlighting deaths from poverty against the $36 billion expense of 'green' energy

The emails have been released in the form of quotes carefully 'chosen' to show bias, or that scientists were pursuing a particular agenda in their research.

The unnamed individuals who released them chose the 5,000 emails from keyword searches, saying, 'We could not read every one, but tried to cover the most relevant topics.'

The emails were posted on a Russian server - Sinwt.ru - as a downloadable ZIP file in an apparent attempt to cause disruption in advance of next week's climate change conference in Durban.

They were rapidly reposted on climate-sceptic blogs such as The Air Vent.

It is not clear, though, whether they are new, or indeed whether they indicate any kind of conspiracy.

The release of the data was accompanied by a 'press release' in the form of a readme file, which said, 'Over 2.5 billion people live on less than $2 a day.'

'Poverty is a death sentence. Nations must invest $37 trillion in energy technologies by 2030 to stabilise greenhouse gas emissions at sustainable levels.'

'Today's decisions should be based on all the information we can get, not on hiding the decline,' said the file.

The identity of the people who posted it was not revealed - although the clear political statement is new.

The file also contains more than 200,000 other emails, which are encrypted, and no password is provided.

Presumably, this is to protect the individuals involved - or simply because the material is so non-controversial or boring that it's not worth releasing.

NASA thermal satellite image showing the world's arctic surface temperature trends: Today's emails appear to show scientists interested in painting a particular picture of such trends - but the information is not new

The University of East Anglia has not confirmed whether the material is genuine.

None of the material appears to be new, either: it seems to date from the first release in 2009.

It also occurs against a rather different scientific background, after the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature review of climate-science data by prominent climate sceptic Richard Muller, which analysed 1.6 billion temperature records, and concluded that global warming was a genuine effect.

It is still unclear what effect - or combination of effects - is causing the current warming of the atmosphere, which has risen around one temperature in the past 50 years.

Professor Mann, speaking to the Guardian, described the release as 'truly pathetic.'

'Well, they look like mine but I hardly see anything that appears damning at all, despite them having been taken out of context.

'I guess they had very little left to work with, having culled in the first round the emails that could most easily be taken out of context to try to make me look bad.'

A police investigation is ongoing.

Second leak of climate emails: Political giants weigh in on bias, scientists bowing to financial pressure from sponsors | Mail Online
 

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[video=youtube;heamMWFQ_qY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heamMWFQ_qY[/video]

Lord Christopher Monckton Debunks Global Warming at a hearing for California's Legislature


Published on Nov 14, 2012
Lord Monckton Debunks Climate Change in California's State Capitol in Sacramento

A visit to California from Lord Christopher Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, promised to be full of his telltale wit, knowledge and controversy, as well as plenty of science. Lord Monckton did not disappoint the standing room only crowd at the State Capitol on March 21, 2012.

As California is on the verge of its first cap-and-trade carbon auction, Assemblywoman Shannon Grove, R-Bakersfield, invited Lord Monckton to address the Legislature, and arranged for him to make several presentations throughout California.

Grove sent out invitations to each of the 120 state legislators, but only a handful of Republicans accepted to participate in the hearing. And only one Democrat attended the hearing — Sen. Rod Wright, D-Inglewood.

Monckton's message is important as well as scientific: Most climate change science is bogus, and California can and should stop the quest for ending climate change on our own before the state's economy is completely destroyed. Monckton has consulted many governments around the world about climate change.

Monckton, together with Tom Tanton, a renewable energy expert and special consultant to the energy and technology industries, testified to a packed room in a special legislative hearing Wednesday on climate change and carbon trade.

As I wrote in California Remedy For Eco-Guilt about AB 32′s implementation and upcoming cap-and-trade auctions, "Instead of providing affirmative plans to accomplish this feat, and answers to legislators' questions, it became abundantly clear that no one in the state has a handle on the implementation of AB 32, the Global Warming Solution Act of 2006, or the potential repercussions from the vast law."


Most notably, Tanton and Monckton warned taxpayers that, because Gov. Jerry Brown decided to monetize CO2 carbon emissions, and plans to tax utility customers, business owners and taxpayers for the emissions, the state stands to take in an extra $1 billion in revenues.

The new revenue stream is not new money coming into the state, but an additional $1 billion from the same old sources -- businesses, manufacturers, utility customers, homeowners, property owners, automobile owners and taxpayers.

Overall, if California continues down the road of selling and trading carbon emission credits, it will cost the state $450 billion by 2020. Monckton found that even with $450 billion spent, the impact to curb total global emissions will be closde to nil -- just 0.4 percent will have been abated.

Watch the video as Monckton went through an elaborate presentation and showed the data, charts and graphs originally used by the United Nation International Panel on Climate Change, when it concluded that man-made global warming must be stopped. But Monckton found that the original science and data had been altered in order to further the agenda, and force the West to comply with the international rules. Monckton also showed the altered data, and the changes were staggering and obvious.

Tanton said that California is already the third best state in the United States in the carbon intensity of our economy. The United States is four times better than China, and better than the average of all other countries.

Even with this information, Tanton warned that cap-and-trade is going to come at a very high cost to Californians. Families will be forced to pay thousands of dollars more out of their budgets each year, and the state will lose more than 100,000 more jobs in 2012 -- on top of the 650,000 manufacturing jobs lost since AB 32 was made law.
 

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"The Club of Rome, since its inception, has been interested in the governance of the
commons. In this talk, I will review how The Club of Rome has addressed this issue in its
early years, describing the impact of Limits To Growth and of subsequent reports to the
Club of Rome. I will end by discussing what I believe should be done today to preserve the
commons, and how the Club of Rome can act as a catalyst for the necessary changes
needed"

Roberto D. Peccei - Club of Rome
Private Club; Global Think Tank for World Planners.


"I consider the Club of Rome first of all an exciting adventure of the spirit - the exploration and discovery of man's condition in this age of his global empire..."
Aurelio Peccei, Co-Founder of the Club


“The common enemy of humanity is man.

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.

The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

- Club of Rome

.......

searching for a new enemy to unite us
we came up with the idea
pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like
would fit the bill
 

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A carbon credit is a generic term for any tradable certificate or permit representing the right to emit one tonne of carbon dioxide or the mass of another greenhouse gas with a carbon dioxide equivalent (tCO2e) equivalent to one tonne of carbon dioxide.[1][2][3]

Carbon credits and carbon markets are a component of national and international attempts to mitigate the growth in concentrations of greenhouse gases (GHGs). One carbon credit is equal to one metric tonne of carbon dioxide, or in some markets, carbon dioxide equivalent gases. Carbon trading is an application of an emissions trading approach. Greenhouse gas emissions are capped and then markets are used to allocate the emissions among the group of regulated sources.
The goal is to allow market mechanisms to drive industrial and commercial processes in the direction of low emissions or less carbon intensive approaches than those used when there is no cost to emitting carbon dioxide and other GHGs into the atmosphere. Since GHG mitigation projects generate credits, this approach can be used to finance carbon reduction schemes between trading partners and around the world.

There are also many companies that sell carbon credits to commercial and individual customers who are interested in lowering their carbon footprint on a voluntary basis. These carbon offsetters purchase the credits from an investment fund or a carbon development company that has aggregated the credits from individual projects. Buyers and sellers can also use an exchange platform to trade, such as the Carbon Trade Exchange, which is like a stock exchange for carbon credits. The quality of the credits is based in part on the validation process and sophistication of the fund or development company that acted as the sponsor to the carbon project. This is reflected in their price; voluntary units typically have less value than the units sold through the rigorously validated Clean Development Mechanism.[4]

Carbon credit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SO, WE ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR PRODUCING THE LIFE PRODUCING-CYCLE CARBON DIOXIDE (you breathe it out, btw)


As part of the carbon cycle, plants, algae, and cyanobacteria use light energy to photosynthesize carbohydrate from carbon dioxide and water, with oxygen produced as a waste product.







O, simple science why they lie and use you to enslave us.
O, simple people, why you believe common criminals (Like Al Gore)
 
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One of the disconnects the Church of Al Gore/IPCC has yet to address regarding so-called Global Warming is why is it the Arctic ice extent is receding (thus all the chicken-little screams) while the Antarctic ice extent is growing at historic rates.


Global warming or Simply massive underseas volcanoes


by Al Strata

Global Warming or Simply Massive Under Sea Volcanoes?
 

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What time is Obama speaking in berlin? I live in okc so what time would it be at?
 

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Posted at 10:08 AM ET, 10/12/2007

An Inconvenient Truth for Al Gore

By Michael Dobbs




Al Gore believes that global warming contributed to the Hurricane Katrina devastation

note from zone - no he doesnt believe that. he knows katrina was a weather warfare manufactured storm.

AL GORE:

The melting of ice in either West Antarctica or Greenland would result in a sea-level rise of up to 20 feet "in the near future."
--Oscar-winning movie, "An Inconvenient Truth."

BRITISH HIGH COURT JUDGE MICHAEL BURTON:

"This is distinctly alarmist and part of Mr Gore's 'wake-up call.'" While it is generally accepted that the melting of Greenland's ice will eventually lead to rises in sea-levels of this magnitude, this will only happen "after, and over, millenia."
--Legal ruling, October 10, 2007.

Fact Checker - An Inconvenient Truth for Al Gore



the British High Court found Gore either had to change the bulk of the bogus science in his film - OR MARKET IT AS SCIENCE FICTION.

he made a few changes and paid some fines, and carried on per normal.

no prison, no trouble.

nothing.

why......

HE OWNS THE CARBON CREDIT (STOCK- TRADE) EXCHANGE (SCAM).
 

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What time is Obama speaking in berlin? I live in okc so what time would it be at?
its over.
but you might see rebroadcasts.
the whole point was the G8 were mostly all in agreement that Assad had to go at any cost.

they perpetuated the SATANIC LIE that he used Sarin gas on his own people, as they lied straight-faced knowing it was THEIR MERCENARIES who were gassing civilians. they provided all the weapons, money, supplies...ALL OF IT.

and the Press makes it look convincing.

we heard all this TRASH many times already.

DEM A-RABS GOT DA WMD...we gotta get them.
humanitarian intervention ya know - dem dictators - we drop bombs and loot.
they get dragged through the streets. and we leave the country in ruins and hell.

that`s how we roll.
shut up and take it.
and don`t you dare mention that one word
 
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This has to make one wonder

From

US Senate committee on environment

Latest Scientific Studies Refute Fears of Greenland Melt

Posted By Marc Morano – Marc_Morano@EPW.Senate.Gov – 9:39 AM ET
Ilulissat, Greenland – The July 27-29 2007 U.S. Senate trip to Greenland to investigate fears of a glacier meltdown revealed an Arctic land where current climatic conditions are neither alarming nor linked to a rise in man-made carbon dioxide emissions, according to many of the latest peer-reviewed scientific findings. Research in 2006 found that Greenland has been warming since the 1880’s, but since 1955, temperature averages at Greenland stations have been colder than the period between 1881-1955.
A 2006 study found Greenland has cooled since the 1930's and 1940's, with 1941 being the warmest year on record. Another 2006 study concluded Greenland was as warm or warmer in the 1930’s and 40’s and the rate of warming from 1920-1930 was about 50% higher than the warming from 1995-2005. One 2005 study found Greenland gaining ice in the interior higher elevations and thinning ice at the lower elevations. In addition, the often media promoted fears of Greenland’s ice completely melting and a subsequent catastrophic sea level rise are directly at odds with the latest scientific studies. These studies suggest that the biggest perceived threat to Greenland’s glaciers may be contained in unproven computer models predicting a future catastrophic melt.


.: U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works :: Minority Page :.


 

zone

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of course it's ridiculous.
global warming (they changed it to CLIMATE CHANGE - ask yourself what does that even mean? doesn't climate change? duh)


Global Warming Hoax Finally Falling Apart

By J.D. Longstreet
Friday, April 19, 2013

We “deniers” have now become “debunkers!” We have known all along—and have not hesitated to tell the world—that global warning was, and remains, the worst hoax ever played on mankind.

Global Warming Hoax Finally Falling Apart

though i disagree its the WORST hoax.
they are a couple that blow this out of the water.
 
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Never mind the fact that the Vikings at one time settled Greenland because the weather at that time was warm enough to settle there and there was no records of icebergs in the seas till the 1300's during the start of the miny European ice age. :p
 

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December 6, 2009

Understanding Climategate's Hidden Decline
By Marc Sheppard

Warmist Public Enemy Number One: The Medieval Warming Period

It’s important to understand that early analyses, and even many contemporary studies, of these “proxies” clearly demonstrate that three radical temperature shifts occurred within the past millennium. Indeed, the years 900-1300 AD were labeled the Medieval Warming Period (MWP), as global temperatures rose precipitously from the bitter cold of the previous Dark Ages to levels several degrees warmer than today. The Little Ice Age, a sudden period of cooling, then followed and lasted until the year 1850. And then began the modern warming period, which is by no means unique and appears to have ended with the millennium itself.

Archived-Articles: Understanding Climategate's Hidden Decline


basically, the Club of Rom...i mean the climate change advocates make their computer model leave out the Med. Warming period .

and they are caught instructing each other to HIDE THE DECLINE in C02 levels ( which coincide with, but lag slightly behind LOWERING temperatures).


plus...why did Al Gore purchase a milti-million-dollar home ON THE WATER in California "knowing" sea levels would rise 20 feet while he still owned the house?

purleeze.
 
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it was very warm in alaska today. the people are going swimming and it made the news
 

zone

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it was very warm in alaska today. the people are going swimming and it made the news
it snowed near here yesterday (mid-June); and temps fell below freezing in Ontario a few days ago - mid June)....not normal.

ahem.

what warming? they found out Erlich and those nuts wer wrong, so they just called it CLIMATE CHANGE.
show a tornado on tv and get legislation passed - to tax us for every single thing we do.

they're using Weather Modification - GeoEngineering to produce results they need.
Monsanto benefits, others also.

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Group That Admitted Manufacturing Global Warming Threat Still Pushes Same Hoax

Club of Rome wants new “system of governance” to enforce eco-fascism
Paul Joseph Watson
Thursday, May 10, 2012
The same secretive organization that admittedly manufactured the global warming threat in 1990 is still pushing the same hoax today, with the Club of Rome issuing an alarmist report predicting a catastrophic rise in temperatures.....

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“The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea
that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

- Club of Rome
 
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it snowed near here yesterday (mid-June); and temps fell below freezing in Ontario a few days ago - mid June)....not normal.

ahem.

what warming? they found out Erlich and those nuts wer wrong, so they just called it CLIMATE CHANGE.
show a tornado on tv and get legislation passed - to tax us for every single thing we do.

they're using Weather Modification - GeoEngineering to produce results they need.
Monsanto benefits, others also.

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Group That Admitted Manufacturing Global Warming Threat Still Pushes Same Hoax

Club of Rome wants new “system of governance” to enforce eco-fascism
Paul Joseph Watson
Thursday, May 10, 2012
The same secretive organization that admittedly manufactured the global warming threat in 1990 is still pushing the same hoax today, with the Club of Rome issuing an alarmist report predicting a catastrophic rise in temperatures.....

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“The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea
that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

- Club of Rome

Here we have been below normal temps and above average rain for the past four months.
 

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Club Of Rome Founder Proposed “Global Matrix” Of Manufactured Consent


Jurriaan Maessen
ExplosiveReports.Com
June 19, 2013



Environmental think tank aspired to global matrix of manufactured consent

Recently unearthed documents from the private collection of former diplomat and Bilderberg regular George C. McGhee have revealed (among other things) that the Club of Rome in 1970 wanted to create a “global matrix approach”, or G-Matrix approach, as a means of bringing people into an enviro-eugenicist mindset globally.

The Club of Rome was an influential think tank, advocating among other things worldwide population reduction and global environmental governance.

The author of the uncovered manuscript from 1970 was Italian industrialist Aurelio Peccei, who founded the Club of Rome in 1968. Peccei wrote that any acceptance of the Club’s conclusions “relies heavily on a global matrix approach”. Furthermore he writes that these conclusions by the infamous Club (which includes advocacy of worldwide population reduction) can only be generally accepted “through (…) an iterative, global and substantive process”. Through such a comprehensive process, writes Peccei, mankind can “gradually attain a value-base consensus, and avoid the prospects of a critical future situation.”



...“It should be pointed out (…) that such a consensus is meant to provide “the initial conditions” for the operational evolution of the Club of Rome Project”, Aurelio wrote in 1970.

“It should only be viewed as an exemplary value-base whose universality, validity, and credibility depends on the judgments of the DELPHI technique participants. Nevertheless, it will represent an attempt for a substantive and professionally coordinated delineation of the “Predicament of Mankind”. The more groups engage in similar intellectual efforts, the more meaningful the dialogue on the worldwide problematique will become.”

...The concept of a Global Matrix of manufactured consent, as described and developed by the founder of the Club of Rome, illustrate that the scam is perpetrated on such an unprecedented scale, that up until a few years ago few dared question its validity.

Club Of Rome Founder Proposed “Global Matrix” Of Manufactured Consent | ExplosiveReports.Com < click MORE
 

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The Delphi method (/ˈdɛlfaɪ/ del-fy) is a structured communication technique, originally developed as a systematic, interactive forecasting method which relies on a panel of experts.[1][2][3][4]

The experts answer questionnaires in two or more rounds. After each round, a facilitator provides an anonymous summary of the experts’ forecasts from the previous round as well as the reasons they provided for their judgments.

Thus, experts are encouraged to revise their earlier answers in light of the replies of other members of their panel.

It is believed that during this process the range of the answers will decrease and the group will converge towards the "correct" answer.

Finally, the process is stopped after a pre-defined stop criterion (e.g. number of rounds, achievement of consensus, stability of results) and the mean or median scores of the final rounds determine the results.[5]

Delphi method - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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this is the same principle used in Rick Warren et al's small group transformational hegelian consensus model.

TQM (Total Quality Management)