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Jesus was baptised by immersion in water by John the Baptist. Jesus was doing this as an example, a fulfillment of prophecy. Not a salvation think I think at first thought for the disciples. A figure of already having conversion. If it is actually about salvation itself.. then it may be...

Very well said!

No one is saying don't commit.. but that it is a separate thing to receiving eternal life/conversion.

Because salvation and service are separated from each other. Justification for eternal life isn't dependent on faithful service. We are to be faithful..but faithfulness doesn't bring conversion. Jesus's gift to us does. So ya we are to die to self..deny ungodly lusts. But that's not...

A lifelong commitment to Jesus isn't salvation itself though. Salvation is a one time event..free gift..not by works. That's the difference..the point of it. Salvation isn't about our works..our commitment.. it's about Jesus' commitment to us..His sacrifice and payment. That's the point.

Interesting phrases we use like 'I committed my life to Christ ' 'I made Jesus my Lord and Saviour' These MAY have led someone to salvation.. but the Bible actually says.. 'I believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, that He is God, lived sinless and died and rose again.'

Right, so we are both talking about using the whole weight of scripture to measure whether water baptism is necessary for salvation. So whether it by believing or faith in Jesus to have salvation it is the same thing in different terms. The condition on NOT having salvation is always unbelief...

Well, the point of questioning 'turning from sin' being part of salvation.. is the fact that it IS about focussing on self instead of Jesus. So the person that is asked why they should be let into heaven may say 'because I turned from my sin'.. rather than 'because I believed on the Lord Jesus...

Well, I think we have the same position on believers getting discipline etc..not losing salvation...but coming at different angles!

I agree with you on most of this, except that John 15:6 could refer to believers incurring God's wrath (not loss of salvation) also..... since we see in Corinthians: 1Co_3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the...

Yeah.. being baptized 'for' the remission of sins.. First compare this with salvation verses all through the book of John. Such as John 3:16 and 5:24. Also Romans 10:9-10. No water baptism is mentioned, but salvation is given. Now going back to Acts 2:38.. what is the context? What is the...

You're not going to elaborate?

I believe you can only 'turn from sin' after conversion. I believe people have the free will to believe or reject Jesus's offer of salvation. Not calvinism..but 'turning from sin ' isn't part of salvation. Knowing you are a sinner, deserving hell and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ...

Thanks for the post. I would think the 7 things you have there would be the right response to having eternal life, than the means of getting or keeping eternal life. Eternal salvation vs daily service

Well, see here is the thing, to make God "the authority and ruler of our every being and lives truly subitting to him and his will the all powerful all ruling God and king"... How is that related to: KJB: (Act 16:30) And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? (Act...