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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    Are you saying you are not born of God and do not have the Spirit of adoption whereby you call God "Dad" and who witnesses to your childhood status? Romans. 8:14-16 14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery leading again...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    I have a feeling the meaning I take from it isn't the meaning you take from it. :) As far as I'm concerned the "death that passed into all men" that caused us to sin is the 'other law' (Romans 7:23 a genetically formed corruption at work in our bodies) not the "lack of fruit" in our diet. ;)...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    We all sinned because death passed into all men and death passed into all men because Adam sinned.
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    I pray your travels are safe and your four days in Oz are a blessing. :) <insert praying hands> (we need a praying hands smilie)
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    Huh? Where was I insisting on anything? I was asking you to clarify your position. I don't think you realise just how confusing you can be in your effort to be critical. :confused: You talk as if being mortal is some form of punishment. Being mortal simply means you have the capacity to...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    Just to clarify .. you're saying: we all sinned because we are dead? or we all sinned because we are subject to death? I ask because you seem to have it backwards. In the translation above, you have predicated sin on death rather than death being the result of sin. I also note you have said...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    You should include untrue as well because if God doesn't know 1cm is not longer than 1km then I know more than God (or at least I know one thing He doesn't know).
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    Not at all. People go to hell for their rejection of Christ. He died to remove the barrier of sin that kept us from God. He succeeded in that mission so now no-one is without excuse. The vilest of sinners can be saved and anyone who is not mentally capable of discerning right from wrong due to...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    I don't know Greek so I'm not going to argue about tenses but even based on what you have written here, it sounds like obedience to God's will in the present gives one the authority to partake of the Tree forever. Either way you want to slice it, you have us under compulsion to eat in order to...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    So basically your theory has God bribing the saints to behave? "Eat from the tree or else?" So much for freedom. But our heavenly bodies won't be physical in the same sense as today, ie made from the elements of the earth. They will be like His glorious body made from the substance of "heaven"...
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    Blasphemy against holyspirit

    Because blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is not "simply sinning". If you had read all my posts in this thread, I explained that someone who does that sort of blasphemy cannot recognise their evil as having need to confess or repent. They see their evil as good. They would never be saved in the first...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    Yes but unlike the policeman, we won't be taking our immortal bodies on and off. It's a permanent body.
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    In answer to your question which I bolded. It wouldn't which, is why I don't believe the tree of life was ever meant for the purpose you are trying to assign it. As Rev. 2:7 says, it is for overcomers. Overcomers of what exactly? It can't be death as anyone in Christ has already passed from...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    So the mortal putting on immortality is what then, a ruse, conditional immortality? (which, as I'm sure you know, is an oxymoron) 1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. I can't see how the tree of life will be necessary...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    A rose by any other name ... call it naked, shame whatever, the fact remains the most immediate consequence of their sin put them "offside" with themselves, each other and with God. There is no evidence to say the tree was necessary for Adam's continued existence prior to sinning. But God did...
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