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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    Yes, I learn from RB Thieme. I have come to believe as we have discussed this issue that you and I are a lot closer in our thinking than was first apparent. I think it is more our own particular word usage that makes us look different. Like I said before, when others start using the word...
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    Did God plan for man to fall to prove something to Satan and his angels?

    Like I said, you confuse trying to understand God's way and cursing God.
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    I get that, but what exactly are the mechanics? Atheists can do a lot of what a Christian can do. Feed the poor, clothe the naked, give generously etc, so what's the difference? I'm not trying to be antagonistic or anything, it's just ... I was not raised A Christian and when I eventually came...
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    Did God plan for man to fall to prove something to Satan and his angels?

    What did Job charge God with?
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    Did God plan for man to fall to prove something to Satan and his angels?

    I think you confuse cursing God with not understanding God's ways. Job was impatient and unhappy the Lord didn't justify him quickly enough but that is not cursing God.
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    Yes, so how do we love our brother? You say we are to do it (and I agree) but how?
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    Saved by faith alone?

    If a person rejects the Gospel they are not saved. Unless one is stronger than God they cannot evict the Holy Spirit by whom we are sealed for the day of redemption (Ephesians 4:30). As Jesus pointed out, it takes a stronger man to evict another (Luke 11:21). What one can lose, is salvation...
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    Those who have eternal life. John 17:3 Now this is eternal life—that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you sent.
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    Did God plan for man to fall to prove something to Satan and his angels?

    Shouldn't be hard to show us if that was the case.
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    Pity He doesn't grab all the other floaters face down in the water especially seeing He wants all men to be saved. Guess He doesn't want it bad enough? :confused:
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    Yes but when I speak of believing and having faith, I am talking of two different things. I gave you an example of what I mean. I can believe the sun will rise tomorrow but my believing doesn't do anything. The sun won't rise just cos I believe it so. But if I have faith the sun will rise...
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    We don't pursue a "lifestyle of good works" we pursue Christ. Faith in Him results in being transformed in our thinking which in turn transforms what we say and how we act. Philippians 3:8 Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for...
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    My language is my language as is yours. I have endeavoured to understand you based on what language you use and how you describe it. I have a problem when you keep repeating "believe/obey = faith/obedience". As far as I am concerned you have obeyed when you believe. I don't understand just how...
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    Well, if you find a context of repentance that doesn't require one to change how they think about the issue, I would be interested to hear it. :) peace be with you.
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    Based on what you have said here, I don't think you understood what I said at all. It is not faith-obedience, it is believe which is obedience which results in faith. The word generates faith, not us. No amount of our believing, obedience, head stands or whatever else you want to throw in there...