The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

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Read exodus 16 about the manna and tell me what you see.

Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exo 16:27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days;
abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Exo 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.
Exo 16:31 And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.
Exo 16:32 And Moses said, This is the thing which the LORD commandeth, Fill an omer of it to be kept for your generations; that they may see the bread wherewith I have fed you in the wilderness, when I brought you forth from the land of Egypt.

The Jewish people under the Old Covenant certainly were obliged to keep the to keep Shabbat as well as all the other laws. It is interesting, though, that while the Apostles who were given the responsibility of teaching their disciples gave them many moral injunctions as well as passing on to them the teachings of Jesus Himself, never urged them to keep Shabbat.

In fact, in Colossians 2:16-17, the Apostle Paul wrote: “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a SABBATH DAY. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.”
Romans 14:5 adds this:
One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.”
These Scriptures make it clear that, for the Christian, Sabbath-keeping is no longer a command from God. Rather, it is a a spiritual freedom left up to the conscience of the individual. Moreover, Sabbath-keeping is an issue on which God’s Word instructs us not to judge each other yet those who still keep Shabbat seem to be conviced every single member of the Body MUST be persuaded to do the same thing.

If keeping Shabbat were on par with every MORAL LAW then NOT KEEPING IT could very well cause us to lose our eternal inheritance in the coming Kingdom of God:
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
(1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

Notice that not keeping Shabbat is not on this list.
 
Historically, Scripture never mentions Sabbath (or Saturday) gatherings of believers, However, there are clear passages that mention the FIRST DAY day of the week, as the day when New Covenant believers gathered, shared the word and accepted offerings. The Romans called this particular day: Sunday, (The Day of the Sun) However, believers called it The Day of the Lord. This is, in fact, how John the Apostle himself referrs to it in the Book of Revelation:
10 On the LORD'S DAY I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,
(Revelation 1:10)

Since the apostle does not elaborate on the meaning of “LORD'S DAY,” we can assume that his target audience (who were FIRST-CENTURY CHRISTIANS) were already familiar with the expression. Immediately following Jesus Resurrection, His followers, who at that time, were Jewish began meeting on the First Day or the Lord's Day to celebrate the Lords Supper (Acts 2:46-47), to worship, pray and to collect offerings for the needy (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2). It is also probable that they continued to worship with their fellow Jews in the synagogues, and in the temple until they were eventually thrown out.
 
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Wrong! These are His commandments, which commandments, He provides for those whom He saves that they follow them.

[1Jo 3:23-24 KJV]
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
That says comamndment- Jesus repeats He has commandment(s) plural. Believe in Jesus is more than I believe in Him, belief in His transforms the heart that one wants to do everything He asks, not just what we feel comfortable with doing.
 
The Jewish people under the Old Covenant certainly were obliged to keep the to keep Shabbat as well as all the other laws. It is interesting, though, that while the Apostles who were given the responsibility of teaching their disciples gave them many moral injunctions as well as passing on to them the teachings of Jesus Himself, never urged them to keep Shabbat.

In fact, in Colossians 2:16-17, the Apostle Paul wrote: “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a SABBATH DAY. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.”
Romans 14:5 adds this:


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While Paul is Scripture, we are told he is misunderstood that can sadly lead one to the wrong path.

Paul taught in this same passage:

Col 2:8 Beware lest anyone [a]cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

Did Jesus teach one person not to keep the Sabbath? He said He is LORD of the Sabbath, that is according to Christ, the Sabbath is the holy day of the LORD Isa 58:13 Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy, the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD this is all according to Christ. Paul is a servant of God and a servant joins themself to the LORD Isa 56:6 not tears down what He is Lord of.

There are several different Sabbaths in the Bible that uses the same word, but has very different meanings.

There is the seventh day Sabbath- instituted at Creation Exo20:11 Gen2:1-3, came before sin, reaffirmed in the Ten Commandments Exo20:8-11, written by God personally Exo31:18, placed inside God’s ark Exo40:20 God called it “the holy day of the Lord” Isa58:13

There are the annual sabbath(s) feast days that are always tied to animal sacrifices, they don’t always fall on the seventh day can be on any day and came after the fall and were handwritten by Moses, placed besides the ark of God’s covenant came after sin.

  • 1st day of Unleavened Bread
  • 7th day of Unleavened Bread
  • Pentecost
  • Trumpets
  • Day of Atonement
  • 1st day of Tabernacles
  • 8th day of Tabernacles
We see these in Leviticus 23 and these are additional feasts besides the Sabbath of the Lord- the seventh day Sabbath Lev 23:37-38

There is the Day of Atonement Sabbath where fasting is required Lev16:31 Lev 23:27-32
There is the seventh year Sabbath that is every 7th year where the land should rest Lev25:1-7
The Jubilee Sabbath (50th) year Lev 25:8-17


So I think we are being quick to assume by seeing the word Sabbath that has different meanings and assuming it means the Holy Day of the Lord that comes with God's blessing and sanctification , without looking at the context that Paul carefully gave and we should let the Bible interpret itself.

Col 2:14 KJV Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His cross.

Col 2:14 NASB having canceled the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Greek word for handwriting: χειρόγραφον (cheirographon)
Literally: “something written by hand

Ordinances
τοῖς δόγμασιν (tois dogmasin)
Meaning: “decrees,” “regulations,” “legal demands”

It is a legal document that condemns sinners why Paul used the word “against us” and “contrary to us”. The law does not condemn the righteous, it condemns the sinners.

Just from this context that Paul gave we can eliminate the Ten Commandments, but lets let Scripture interpret Scripture.

Who wrote the handwritten ordinances?

2 Chron 33:8 and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.

What law is the law that was contrary and against?

Deut 31:24-26 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;


It appears from the text that this is not referring to the Sabbath in the Ten Commandments that was written by God Himself by His finger Exo31:18 placed inside the ark of the covenant, not besides like the annual sabbath(s) connected to animal sacrifices.


This is the law that was taken away at the Cross.

Col 2:16 let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

This is the exact language referring to the annual sabbath(s) that were handwritten by Moses, placed besides the ark that refer to annual feasts days, sacrifices and offerings that some were also called sabbath(s)

Eze 45:17 and it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.


What did Jesus say He would come to put an end to? (compared to magnifying another law- by placing it in our hearts Isa42:21 Heb8:10)


Dan 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.


Col 2:17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ

What are the shadows laws? Lets let the Scriptures define what they are

Heb 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once []purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.

5 Therefore
, when He came into the world, He said:

“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.
7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.’ ”

8 Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, []O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been []sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all

This fits the context of this passage perfectly and makes the Bible harmonize because we see Sabbath-keeping (every Sabbath) 30+ years after the Cross just as Jesus Himself indicated Isa 56:6-7 Acts 13:42, Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 and up to His Second Coming Mat24:20-30 and forever Isa66:22-23
 
Historically, Scripture never mentions Sabbath (or Saturday) gatherings of believers, However, there are clear passages that mention the FIRST DAY day of the week, as the day when New Covenant believers gathered, shared the word and accepted offerings. The Romans called this particular day: Sunday, (The Day of the Sun) However, believers called it The Day of the Lord. This is, in fact, how John the Apostle himself referrs to it in the Book of Revelation:
10 On the LORD'S DAY I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,
(Revelation 1:10)

Since the apostle does not elaborate on the meaning of “LORD'S DAY,” we can assume that his target audience (who were FIRST-CENTURY CHRISTIANS) were already familiar with the expression. Immediately following Jesus Resurrection, His followers, who at that time, were Jewish began meeting on the First Day or the Lord's Day to celebrate the Lords Supper (Acts 2:46-47), to worship, pray and to collect offerings for the needy (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2). It is also probable that they continued to worship with their fellow Jews in the synagogues, and in the temple until they were eventually thrown out.
The Lords supper is not every day, nor is the Lords day ever mentioned as the first day. God Himself spoke and wrote on this matter what His day is, and it has and will always be the Sabbath.

the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD (Exo 20:10)
the holy day of the LORD (Isa 58:13)
Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)

God asked us not to add to His words Pro30:5-6 because its not longer His will but someone else's. We are saved by grace through faith and those with faith do His will, not their own. Mat7:21-23 Luke6:46-49
 
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That says comamndment- Jesus repeats He has commandment(s) plural. Believe in Jesus is more than I believe in Him, belief in His transforms the heart that one wants to do everything He asks, not just what we feel comfortable with doing.

No, you've misunderstood the verse. There are two commandments stated in John 3:23 not one, hence the "and": both are explicitly and individually stated in Scripture as commandments: the first one is to believe in the name of Jesus Christ and which is explicitly and directly identified as a commandment within and by that verse; the other one is to love the brethren, and which also is explicitly and directly identified as a commandment but in Jhn 13:3. The word "commandment" that you've labeled as singular, actually only pertains to the first commandment - to believe in the name of Jesus; the commandment to love one another is the second commandment, therefore, the word "commandments" is appropriately satisfied by that verse.
No one can keep them until first becoming saved. And nowhere in that verse does it mention the ten commandments.

[1Jo 3:23 KJV] 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

[Jhn 13:34-35 KJV]
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
 
No, you've misunderstood the verse. There are two commandments stated in John 3:23 not one, hence the "and": both are explicitly and individually stated in Scripture as commandments: the first one is to believe in the name of Jesus Christ and which is explicitly and directly identified as a commandment within and by that verse; the other one is to love the brethren, and which also is explicitly and directly identified as a commandment but in Jhn 13:3. The word "commandment" that you've labeled as singular, actually only pertains to the first commandment - to believe in the name of Jesus; the commandment to love one another is the second commandment, therefore, the word "commandments" is appropriately satisfied by that verse.
No one can keep them until first becoming saved. And nowhere in that verse does it mention the ten commandments.

[1Jo 3:23 KJV] 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

[Jhn 13:34-35 KJV]
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

@SabbathBlessing

In my reply to you, I incorrectly stated the new commandment as being in Jhn 13:3. That was an error. Instead, it should have said
Jhn 13:34 - 35. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused.


[Jhn 13:34-35 KJV]
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
 
No, you've misunderstood the verse. There are two commandments stated in John 3:23 not one, hence the "and": both are explicitly and individually stated in Scripture as commandments: the first one is to believe in the name of Jesus Christ and which is explicitly and directly identified as a commandment within and by that verse; the other one is to love the brethren, and which also is explicitly and directly identified as a commandment but in Jhn 13:3. The word "commandment" that you've labeled as singular, actually only pertains to the first commandment - to believe in the name of Jesus; the commandment to love one another is the second commandment, therefore, the word "commandments" is appropriately satisfied by that verse.
No one can keep them until first becoming saved. And nowhere in that verse does it mention the ten commandments.

[1Jo 3:23 KJV] 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

[Jhn 13:34-35 KJV]
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Jesus quoted much more than these two commandments. I am not familiar with the Text that one teaching deletes another. So according to you we can ignore the commandments not to murder or commit adultery all we need to do is believe, but thats some of what Jesus taught not everything. What does believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ mean according to you?
 
Jesus quoted much more than these two commandments. I am not familiar with the Text that one teaching deletes another. So according to you we can ignore the commandments not to murder or commit adultery all we need to do is believe, but thats some of what Jesus taught not everything. What does believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ mean according to you?
 
Jesus quoted much more than these two commandments. I am not familiar with the Text that one teaching deletes another. So according to you we can ignore the commandments not to murder or commit adultery all we need to do is believe, but thats some of what Jesus taught not everything. What does believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ mean according to you?

Edification is not commandment. Should we attempt to try to satisfy the law of commandments to establish or to increase our righteousness, we then would still be under law and under God's wrath. Those whom God saves are led by the Holy Spirit in their actions that they should act accordingly but not because of the law or of commandment. Does that mean no saved person will commit murder or adultery? No, just look at king David - he was guilty of both, yet beyond question, he was and remained saved and indwelt with the Holy Spirit.
Thankfully, salvation is not based nor dependent upon the works, actions, or righteousness of the saved but only upon the righteousness of Christ, which righteousness, is freely and fully imputed unto those whom He saves.
To believe on the name of Jesus Christ is to believe that He, and He alone, is THE Savior. For Him to be THE Savior, He must have achieved everything necessary for the salvation for those whom He chose unto salvation. Otherwise, salvation would be by our works and not by God's grace and mercy, through Jesus Christ the (singular) Savior, by which, every one of our sins, past present and future have been forgiven us. Therefore, salvation is and can only be by God's exceedingly great mercy and grace through Christ. That God grants salvation on that basis (by His mercy and grace), as pertains to His chosen, has become His glory, thereby replacing the glory of the ministration of condemnation unto death by the law.

[Eph 2:15 KJV] 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;
 
Edification is not commandment. Should we attempt to try to satisfy the law of commandments to establish or to increase our righteousness, we then would still be under law and under God's wrath. Those whom God saves are led by the Holy Spirit in their actions that they should act accordingly but not because of the law or of commandment. Does that mean no saved person will commit murder or adultery? No, just look at king David - he was guilty of both, yet beyond question, he was and remained saved and indwelt with the Holy Spirit.
Thankfully, salvation is not based nor dependent upon the works, actions, or righteousness of the saved but only upon the righteousness of Christ, which righteousness, is freely and fully imputed unto those whom He saves.
To believe on the name of Jesus Christ is to believe that He, and He alone, is THE Savior. For Him to be THE Savior, He must have achieved everything necessary for the salvation for those whom He chose unto salvation. Otherwise, salvation would be by our works and not by God's grace and mercy, through Jesus Christ the (singular) Savior, by which, every one of our sins, past present and future have been forgiven us. Therefore, salvation is and can only be by God's exceedingly great mercy and grace through Christ. That God grants salvation on that basis (by His mercy and grace), as pertains to His chosen, has become His glory, thereby replacing the glory of the ministration of condemnation unto death by the law.

[Eph 2:15 KJV] 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;
According to Jesus it is

Mat 19:17 So He said to him, [e]“Why do you call Me good? [f]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

So according to Jesus He has a lot more than 2 commandments.
 
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A thought I have about not letting others judge you in regards to the Sabbath etc , that’s exactly what the Pharisees did to Jesus but they didn’t understand how to keep the Sabbath, but Jesus did and tried to teach them the right way , but it brought persecution to Jesus the Lord of the Sabbath. So rather let the Holy Spirit lead you on how to do it as Jesus would and did . A thought . But it’s in the law keeping the Sabbath and heaven and earth will go away before the law , and they are still here . When the heaven and earth flee away at the presence of God almighty, that’s when the law will be used for the judgement. Of those that stand before God . That should cause the fear of the Lord in any that understand . Walking in the fear of the Lord and comfort of the Holy Spirit . Grace to you all !
 
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According to Jesus it is

Mat 19:17 So He said to him, [e]“Why do you call Me good? [f]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

No, it is not. You didn't read the prior verse. In it, the one who came to Jesus asked, "what must I DO that I may have eternal life". To inherit eternal life based upon what he (or anyone) must do, he would have to keep all of the commandments perfectly from birth to death. However, salvation is not based upon what he or anyone does, but is given only as a free gift from God unto those whom He had chosen for it through Jesus Christ the Savior, and that's what makes it by grace and not by works

[Mat 19:16 KJV] 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

This is confirmed by Mat 19:25 - 26 when Jesus said that it is impossible with man but only by God

[Mat 19:25-26 KJV]
25 When his disciples heard [it], they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
 
No, it is not. You didn't read the prior verse. In it, the one who came to Jesus asked, "what must I DO that I may have eternal life". To inherit eternal life based upon what he (or anyone) must do, he would have to keep all of the commandments perfectly from birth to death. However, salvation is not based upon what he or anyone does, but is given only as a free gift from God unto those whom He had chosen for it through Jesus Christ the Savior, and that's what makes it by grace and not by works

[Mat 19:16 KJV] 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

This is confirmed by Mat 19:25 - 26 when Jesus said that it is impossible with man but only by God

[Mat 19:25-26 KJV]
25 When his disciples heard [it], they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Weird, the question is asked but you skipped over the answer Jesus gave for some reason

Mat 19:16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[d] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17 So He said to him, [e]“Why do you call Me good? [f]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”


Sorry this is as plain as can be. Jesus started to quote the commandments from the Ten Commandments- the ones personally written by God Exo31:18. I find it odd, God wrote the Ten Commandments and collectively as a unit called them "My commandments" Exo20:6 but us mere humans are going to tell Him, the God who has the power to speak and make it so, and tell Him, no they are not your commandments. Weird times.

Believe as you wish, all will get sorted out in God's time.
 
Jesus did not say only keep some of the commandments, all of them of course . But Jesus tested him out and said sell all you have and come follow me , and he could not . Jesus is the way to God and the rich young ruler refused to obey and follow Jesus , keeping the commandments will not save you , but it will stop you from digging a deep hole of sin and judgement. Jesus is the way to Salvation the new Covenant . Just a few thoughts .
 
Weird, the question is asked but you skipped over the answer Jesus gave for some reason

Mat 19:16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[d] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17 So He said to him, [e]“Why do you call Me good? [f]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”


Sorry this is as plain as can be. Jesus started to quote the commandment from the Ten Commandments- the ones personally written by God Exo31:18. I find it odd, God wrote the Ten Commandments and collectively as a unit called them "My commandments" but us mere humans are going to tell Him, no there are not.

Believe as you wish, all will get sorted out in God's time.

Christ's answer to him was based upon his question to Christ. You ignore what was said in the beginning of their discussion which established its direction.
If the keeping the commandments were necessary for salvation, and which would have to be kept perfectly from birth to death, no one could ever become saved, in which case, no Savior would have been necessary, and Christ would not have had to be sacrificed. So, what you are saying then is that it is up to man to save himself based upon his work and actions relative to the ten commandments. That is not a Christian doctrine. Salvation is a binary question: one either becomes saved by grace or by works - both are completely and mutually exclusive of each other - and there is no overlap or middle ground between them, and it can't be by works.

[Eph 2:15 KJV] 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;
 
Christ's answer to him was based upon his question to Christ. You ignore what was said in the beginning of their discussion which established its direction.
If the keeping the commandments were necessary for salvation, and which would have to be kept perfectly from birth to death, no one could ever become saved, in which case, no Savior would have been necessary, and Christ would not have had to be sacrificed. So, what you are saying then is that it is up to man to save himself based upon his work and actions relative to the ten commandments. That is not a Christian doctrine. Salvation is a binary question: one either becomes saved by grace or by works - both are completely and mutually exclusive of each other - and there is no overlap or middle ground between them, and it can't be by works.

[Eph 2:15 KJV] 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;

Eph 2:15 is referring to commandments contained in ordinances, not the Ten Commandments and now we can murder our brother or start using the holy name of God's in vain. Jesus was direct in His answer, just because we might not like it doesn't make it less true.
 
Eph 2:15 is referring to commandments contained in ordinances, not the Ten Commandments and now we can murder our brother or start using the holy name of God's in vain. Jesus was direct in His answer, just because we might not like it doesn't make it less true.

No. It means the commandments were manifested into ordinances, both of which He abolished. We can know this
because by that, for those whom He saves, He alone brought peace with the Father completely abolishing that enmity, so, by Christ - and not by us- is there no longer enmity remaining, and therefore, no longer anything for us to satisfy or remit by the keeping of the ten commandments or any other law.
Again, with your reply, you are again confronted with the proposition man must save himself through the satisfying of the ten commandments, which is impossible, and if true (which it isn't), then no need for a Savior to have been sacrificed, which Savior, is Christ.
Okay, I can see by your reply that you either are not reading or understanding what I've been posting.


[Eph 2:14-16 KJV]
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us];
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
 
No. It means the commandments were manifested into ordinances, both of which He abolished. We can know this
because by that, for those whom He saves, He alone brought peace with the Father completely abolishing that enmity, so, by Christ - and not by us- is there no longer enmity remaining, and therefore, no longer anything for us to satisfy or remit by the keeping of the ten commandments or any other law.
Again, with your reply, you are again confronted with the proposition man must save himself through the satisfying of the ten commandments, which is impossible, and if true (which it isn't), then no need for a Savior to have been sacrificed, which Savior, is Christ.
Okay, I can see by your reply that you either are not reading or understanding what I've been posting.


[Eph 2:14-16 KJV]
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us];
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

The ordinances were different from the commandments

Neh 9:13 “You came down also on Mount Sinai,
And spoke with them from heaven,
And gave them just ordinances and true laws,
Good statutes and commandments.

And means its something in addition. The ordinances that are being spoken of was something written by Moses

2Chro 33:8 and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.The Ten Commandments was written by the finger of God Exo31:18, never called the Ten ordinances. I can tell you what the ordinances being spoken of are, if you're interested in knowing. what the Scripture says

Jesus did not do away with only worship God and not steal from our neighbor, Jesus said it from His own mouth Mat5:17-30 Mat19:17-19 Mat15:3-14 but if we don't believe His words, not much one can do.
 
The ordinances were different from the commandments

Neh 9:13 “You came down also on Mount Sinai,
And spoke with them from heaven,
And gave them just ordinances and true laws,
Good statutes and commandments.

And means its something in addition. The ordinances that are being spoken of was something written by Moses

2Chro 33:8 and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.The Ten Commandments was written by the finger of God Exo31:18, never called the Ten ordinances.

Jesus did not do away with only worship God and not steal from our neighbor, Jesus said it from His own mouth Mat5:17-30 Mat19:17-19 Mat15:3-14 but if we don't believe His words, not much one can do.

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The bottom-line regarding salvation, is that Christ Himself (not us), achieved everything needed to save those whom He had chosen to salvation, with nothing remaining for those to be saved to do to become saved - salvation is given as a completely free gift by God through Jesus Christ the Savior, and that is why He has the title of Savior, period. Not to be rude, but it appears you either don't understand or believe in the doctrine of salvation by God's grace, but only by man's works. We understand the basis of salvation completely differently, so I don't see any value in continuing further at this point. I would just end by suggesting that you ponder deeply in relation to salvation what the title and role of Savior actually means.

[Tit 3:4-6 KJV]
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;