Alcohol Damages Health

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I agree with you that drinking isn't the problem but drunkenness is.
Yep, that's what the devil says as well. The old devil recommends that you drink up!

Go ahead and intentionally defile the temple of the Holy Spirit with known cancer causing toxic substances and see where you end up.

It's amazing how otherwise intelligent people are so easily deceived by the devil.

Those claiming one can commit suicide and still be saved are just as easily deceived. Amazing!

1 Corinthians 3:16,17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man destroys / defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


God is surely Love, and loves all people.

But He does not accept everyone. He only accepts those that love Him having turned away from their sins and walking after the flesh unto living for and walking in agreement with Him based on what He says in His Word.

Proverbs 8:17
I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

There will be no sinners in Heaven!

Now, in this life, is the time to repent and stop living in sin.


if, it is not true Love 1 Cor 13:4-7, then it to me is not from God at all..

You should read the rest of God's Word including such as what God says love is

All the religious people reject what God says in His Word concerning what Love is:

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not grievous.

The tares claim they can ignore God's commandments and still be saved. They are wrong.
 
God is surely Love, and loves all people. I’m not accusing anyone per se, I’m just defending what the Bible states about the subject.

I don’t recall now who said what on this thread, but when people say God prohibits these things, when He obviously doesn’t, then I will defend Scripture, and NOT man’s tradition.

Ik many of my own brethren believe in this man-made prohibition, which is a hammy-down Gospel (added to doctrine) from the last 200 yrs. This is heresy! We are not to add or take away from His word (Rev. 22).

As far as series are concerned, you might want to watch The Chosen on Netflix (superb series).
Thank you. I will, have you ever seen "The Shack"? Fictional

Oh as we are all free to choose, Myself, by not good choices I have learned what is not beneficial in the long haul, Short haul seemed as was, now no more Thanks to Father and Son to work with me to see it and leave those bad things behind me that were not good for me as Drinking over 42 years ago now, I drank too much.
 
so sorry you read my response post incorrectly
It is about if you, or anyone had a problem in drinking or anything else and wants to stop, being guilty over it
I never accused anyone, you or anyone else. I talked of my own experience and never said anyone has to stop anything. it is truly only between God and each person. Unless another person harms another person, such as driving drunk and harming others
You might want to see "touched by an angel"? Series. There is an episode of a drunk driver that killed others driving drunk, to me very enlightening. In fact the entire series an eye opener.
Thank you though for stating as you stated in care, thank you, just not what was said by me or meant that way at all
God is Love and this Love goes forward forever 1 Cor 13:13

The Scripture is against drunkenness and is not about drinking. I just want to defend Scripture, not uphold man-made doctrine.

Blessings!
 
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Thank you. I will, have you ever seen "The Shack"? Fictional

Oh as we are all free to choose, Myself, by not good choices I have learned what is not beneficial in the long haul, Short haul seemed as was, now no more Thanks to Father and Son to work with me to see it and leave those bad things behind me that were not good for me as Drinking over 42 years ago now, I drank too much.

So sorry, and yes I do care! Praise the Lord that He helped you to stop!! :)
Blessings!
 
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The Scripture is against drunkenness and is not about drinking. I just want to defend Scripture, not uphold man-made doctrine.

The darkened wisdom of man, with the help of satan, believes it's OK to knowingly ingest known cancer causing toxic substances in to the body.

1 Corinthians 3:16,17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man destroys / defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

The same people that claim it's OK to drink just a little then are the same ones claiming it's OK to smoke just a few cigarettes, it's OK to smoke just a little weed, it's OK to do just a little cocaine, it's OK to smoke just a little crack and shoot up just a little heroin.

In recent years after numerous major studies, medical science has determined that NO amount of alcohol consumption is safe and they've been able to prove that ANY amount of alcohol is unhealthy and is damaging to the human body

Way back years ago before studies proved that no amount of smoking cigarettes was safe people may have gotten away with that and may have been able to claim ignorance but that's no longer the case now, and the same goes with drinking alcohol.

Now, if someone drinks alcohol they are knowingly defiling and damaging their body

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The same people that claim it's OK to drink just a little then are the same ones claiming it's OK to smoke just a few cigarettes, it's OK to smoke just a little weed, it's OK to do just a little cocaine, it's OK to smoke just a little crack and shoot up just a little heroin.

In recent years after numerous major studies, medical science has determined that NO amount of alcohol consumption is safe and they've been able to prove that ANY amount of alcohol is unhealthy and is damaging to the human body

I have never met a Christian who promoted limited alcohol consumption along with limited heroin use. You must run in some odd social circles 🤔

As far as your argument that even a small amount of alcohol could send a Christian to hell, do you believe that a sunburn would have the same damning effect? Because "recent studies" have found that even one sunburn has significant potential for cancerous consequences. 🤔
 
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do you believe that a sunburn would have the same damning effect? Because "recent studies" have found that even one sunburn has significant potential for cancerous consequences.

Do you believe 1 Corinthians 3:16,17 is a lie?

Do you believe James 4:17 is a lie?

If not than WHY would you advocate for being able to knowingly damage what should be the Temple of the Holy Spirit and it's not considered to be sinful behavior?

Only those who don't have the Holy Spirit would believe that. They don't believe their body is the temple of the Holy Spirit so to them it's no problem to knowingly and willing ingest toxic substances known to be damaging to the body and of course they advocate for being able to do so and still be saved.

Those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children or sons of God (Romans 8:14)

Those who are not led by the Spirit of God claiming to be "christians" are the tares Jesus warned about.
 
Do you believe 1 Corinthians 3:16,17 is a lie?

Do you believe James 4:17 is a lie?

If not than WHY would you advocate for being able to knowingly damage what should be the Temple of the Holy Spirit and it's not considered to be sinful behavior?

Only those who don't have the Holy Spirit would believe that. They don't believe their body is the temple of the Holy Spirit so to them it's no problem to knowingly and willing ingest toxic substances known to be damaging to the body and of course they advocate for being able to do so and still be saved.

Those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children or sons of God (Romans 8:14)

Those who are not led by the Spirit of God claiming to be "christians" are the tares Jesus warned about.

Aww, it's so cute how you've completely ignored everything I actually said, that warms my heart! 😊

I am not advocating for the consumption of alcohol, I don't even particularly like the stuff and given your clear incomprehension of the concept of self-control, I'm VERY glad that you stay away from it completely. So no argument there, I applaud your decision! 👏 😎

Really, I'm just trying to make sure that you hold to your own standards. If God's laws are as strict as you claim then best be slathering on the SPF 500, lest ye fall into condemnation from The Lord.

Just looking out for your eternal soul, brother! 😎🤝😎
 
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The darkened wisdom of man, with the help of satan, believes it's OK to knowingly ingest known cancer causing toxic substances in to the body.

1 Corinthians 3:16,17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man destroys / defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

The same people that claim it's OK to drink just a little then are the same ones claiming it's OK to smoke just a few cigarettes, it's OK to smoke just a little weed, it's OK to do just a little cocaine, it's OK to smoke just a little crack and shoot up just a little heroin.

In recent years after numerous major studies, medical science has determined that NO amount of alcohol consumption is safe and they've been able to prove that ANY amount of alcohol is unhealthy and is damaging to the human body

Way back years ago before studies proved that no amount of smoking cigarettes was safe people may have gotten away with that and may have been able to claim ignorance but that's no longer the case now, and the same goes with drinking alcohol.

Now, if someone drinks alcohol they are knowingly defiling and damaging their body

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You said:
[The darkened wisdom of man, with the help of satan, believes it's OK to knowingly ingest known cancer causing toxic substances in to the body.]

-Maybe you should inform Jesus, since He made the best wine ever, and drank. Lol

-1 Corinthians 3:16,17; drinking wine and eating is NOT destroying the body. This is a moot point!

You stated:
[The same people that claim it's OK to drink just a little then are the same ones claiming it's OK to smoke just a few cigarettes, it's OK to smoke just a little weed, it's OK to do just a little cocaine, it's OK to smoke just a little crack and shoot up just a little heroin.]

-Surely you jest, this of course is a big lie! Nobody is condoning drugs.

So you would rely on faulty medical studies to tell you what is good, or not. I see! These same studies used to tell us that margarines, corn oil, and skim milk, and diet foods were better for us. We all can see where that ended up!! No thank you. I no longer give ear to faulty science.

I listen to God’s word, not man’s word and traditions.

-“Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭14‬-‭15‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

--"So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations— "Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle," which all concern things which perish with the using—according to the commandments and doctrines of men?"
Colossians 2:16, 20-22 NKJV

-"Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God,"
I Corinthians 10:31-32 NKJV

-"He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, and vegetation for the service of man, that he may bring forth food from the earth, and wine that makes glad the heart of man, oil to make his face shine, and bread which strengthens man’s heart."
Psalms 104:14-15 NKJV
The darkened wisdom of man, with the help of satan, believes it's OK to knowingly ingest known cancer causing toxic substances in to the body.

1 Corinthians 3:16,17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
If any man destroys / defiles the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

The same people that claim it's OK to drink just a little then are the same ones claiming it's OK to smoke just a few cigarettes, it's OK to smoke just a little weed, it's OK to do just a little cocaine, it's OK to smoke just a little crack and shoot up just a little heroin.

In recent years after numerous major studies, medical science has determined that NO amount of alcohol consumption is safe and they've been able to prove that ANY amount of alcohol is unhealthy and is damaging to the human body

Way back years ago before studies proved that no amount of smoking cigarettes was safe people may have gotten away with that and may have been able to claim ignorance but that's no longer the case now, and the same goes with drinking alcohol.

Now, if someone drinks alcohol they are knowingly defiling and damaging their body

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You said:
[The darkened wisdom of man, with the help of satan, believes it's OK to knowingly ingest known cancer causing toxic substances in to the body.]

-Maybe you should inform Jesus, since He made the best wine ever, and drank. Lol

-1 Corinthians 3:16,17; drinking wine and eating is NOT destroying the body. This is a moot point!

You stated:
[The same people that claim it's OK to drink just a little then are the same ones claiming it's OK to smoke just a few cigarettes, it's OK to smoke just a little weed, it's OK to do just a little cocaine, it's OK to smoke just a little crack and shoot up just a little heroin.]

-Surely you jest, this of course is a big lie! Nobody is condoning drugs.

So you would rely on faulty medical studies to tell you what is good, or not. I see! These same studies used to tell us that margarines, corn oil, and skim milk, and diet foods were better for us. We all can see where that ended up!! No thank you. I no longer give ear to faulty science.

I listen to God’s word, not man’s word and traditions.

-“Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭14‬-‭15‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

--"So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations— "Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle," which all concern things which perish with the using—according to the commandments and doctrines of men?"
Colossians 2:16, 20-22 NKJV

-"Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God,"
I Corinthians 10:31-32 NKJV

-"He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, and vegetation for the service of man, that he may bring forth food from the earth, and wine that makes glad the heart of man, oil to make his face shine, and bread which strengthens man’s heart."
Psalms 104:14-15 NKJV

-"No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities."
I Timothy 5:23 NKJV

You are a contradiction to Scripture!!
 
Honestly, @HigherGospel might just be a troll here to cause strife to make Christians look bad. 🤔

Yes he has a similar written expression and highly over confident style in the same non-biblical ideas .... as the banned Jimmy the Lock (something like that) and the banned Dallas Man :unsure:
 
Yes not only fictional but a vehicle satan is using to trick people in to accepting false doctrine.

Okay, you Do it yourself, you, unfortunately do not see the love and mercy given to us all to believe God and be set free
The truth sets people free, I am free and love that story myself personally
So I have to say I see we do not agree, thank you it is okay with me God loves us all equally
 
People are so indoctrinated with traditions of men that they fail to see Scripture. It’s liken to the Jewish Pharisees and Sadducees with their traditions. When Scripture is given, they ignore. Amazing!!

This is what I call a hammy-down gospel, it’s full of man-made doctrine instead of actual God given doctrine.
 
People are so indoctrinated with traditions of men that they fail to see Scripture. It’s liken to the Jewish Pharisees and Sadducees with their traditions. When Scripture is given, they ignore. Amazing!!

This is what I call a hammy-down gospel, it’s full of man-made doctrine instead of actual God given doctrine.

God simply loves us all, proven to me in Son as risen once for us all to love all, ev en those that have done anyone wrong. Love overcomes evil

God's Son for us Overcame evil with good Thanks for your post Brother
 
God simply loves us all, proven to me in Son as risen once for us all to love all, ev en those that have done anyone wrong. Love overcomes evil

God's Son for us Overcame evil with good Thanks for your post Brother

Yes, God loves all of us because He sent His Son to die for all of us. Praise Him!

What He doesn’t like is disobedience. He hates anyone adding to/ taking away from His word.

“Sister”…… :)
 
In another thread there are drunks advocating for drinking the booze claiming it's healthy... but recent medical studies are now proving that NO amount of alcohol is healthy for one's body

it's known medical fact that alcohol is harmful to your health and Christians
have been bought with a price they are not their own and are called to glorify
God in their bodies (1 Corinthians 6:19-20) so drinking alcohol is sinful behavior.

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy;
for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Christians have no right to abuse their body by ingesting alcohol.
Those that don't take their relationship with the Lord seriously
would be the ones drinking booze while claiming to be Christians.



Medical STUDY - No Safe Level of Alcohol
Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle Washington

Paris (AFP) - Even an occasional glass of wine or beer increases the risk of health problems and dying, according to a major study on drinking in 195 nations that attributes 2.8 million premature deaths worldwide each year to booze.

"There is no safe level of alcohol," said Max Griswold, a researcher at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle, Washington and lead author for a consortium of more than 500 experts.

Despite recent research showing that light-to-moderate drinking reduces heart disease, the new study found that alcohol use is more likely than not to do harm.

"The protective effect of alcohol was offset by the risks," Griswold told AFP in summarising the results, published in medical journal The Lancet on Friday.

"Overall, the health risks associated with alcohol rose in line with the amount consumed each day."

Compared to abstinence, imbibing one "standard drink" -- 10 grammes of alcohol, equivalent to a small beer, glass of wine or shot of spirits -- per day, for example, ups the odds of developing at least one of two dozen health problems by about half-a-percent, the researchers reported.

Looked at one way, that seems like a small increment: 914 out of 100,000 teetotallers will encounter those problems, compared to 918 people who imbibe seven times per week.

"But at the global level, that additional risk of 0.5 percent among (once-a-day) drinkers corresponds to about 100,000 additional deaths each year," said senior author Emmanuela Gakidou, a professor at the University of Washington and a director at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.

- 'Less is better, none is best' -

"Those are excess deaths, in other words, that could be avoided," she told AFP.

The risk climbs in a steep "J-curve", the study found.

An average of two drinks per day, for example, translated into a 7.0 percent hike in disease and injury compared to those who opt for abstinence.

With five "units" of alcohol per day, the likelihood of serious consequences jumps by 37 percent.

The "less is better, none is best" finding jibes with the World Health Organization's long-standing position, but is at odds with many national guidelines, especially in the developed world.

Britain's health authority, for example, suggests not exceeding 14 drinks per week "to keep health risks from alcohol to a low level".

"There is always a lag between the publication of new evidence and the modification and adoption of revised guidelines," said Gakidou, who admitted to being an "occasional drinker" herself.

"The evidence shows what the evidence shows, and I -- like 2.4 billion other people on the planet that also consume alcohol -- need to take it seriously."

Overall, drinking was the seventh leading risk factor for premature death and disease in 2016, accounting for just over two percent of deaths in women and nearly seven percent in men.

The top six killers are high blood pressure, smoking, low-birth weight and premature delivery, high blood sugar (diabetes), obesity and pollution.

But in the 15-49 age bracket, alcohol emerged as the most lethal factor, responsible for more than 12 percent of deaths among men, the study found.

- The 95 percent club -

The main causes of alcohol-related deaths in this age group were tuberculosis, road injuries and "self-harm", mainly suicide.

King's College London professor Robyn Burton, who did not take part in the study, described it as "the most comprehensive estimate of the global burden of alcohol use to date."

The examination of impacts drew from more than 600 earlier studies, while a country-by-country tally of prevalence -- the percentage of men and women who drink, and how much they consume -- drew from another 700.

Both were grounded in new methods that compensated for the shortcomings of earlier efforts.

Among men, drinking alcohol in 2016 was most widespread in Denmark (97 percent), along with Norway, Argentina, Germany, and Poland (94 percent).

In Asia, South Korean men took the lead, with 91 percent hitting the bottle at least once in a while.

Among women, Danes also ranked first (95 percent), followed by Norway (91 percent), Germany and Argentina (90 percent), and New Zealand (89 percent).

The biggest drinkers, however, were found elsewhere.

Men in Romania who partake knocked back a top-scoring eight drinks a day on average, with Portugal, Luxembourg, Lithuania and Ukraine just behind at seven "units" per day.

Ukranian women who drink were in a league of their own, putting away more than four glasses or shots every 24 hours, followed by Andorra, Luxembourg, Belarus, Sweden, Denmark, Ireland and Britain, all averaging about three per day.

Source - https://www.yahoo.com/news/zero-tolerance-no-safe-level-alcohol-study-says-224245668.html
Of course over indulgence of alcohol damages health.

However, in Scripture there is no prohibition regarding its consumption except for the warning not to over indulge.

And again,of course. Because wine was consumed in Bible times. The wedding in Canaan for example .
Some claim those references are not related to fortified wine.

Not true. Wine was a rite in Jewish weddings. Also,that drink is regarding alcoholic wine is evident in the aforementioned verse that warns against drunk rss.

If one could not get drunk on wine,that warning would not be necessary.
Noah became drunk after the flood waters receded.
 
Of course over indulgence of alcohol damages health.

However, in Scripture there is no prohibition regarding its consumption except for the warning not to over indulge.

And again,of course. Because wine was consumed in Bible times. The wedding in Canaan for example .
Some claim those references are not related to fortified wine.

Not true. Wine was a rite in Jewish weddings. Also,that drink is regarding alcoholic wine is evident in the aforementioned verse that warns against drunk rss.

If one could not get drunk on wine,that warning would not be necessary.
Noah became drunk after the flood waters receded.

Many became drunk, hence all the verses warning us of drunkenness. Self control is the key. If you don’t have self control then abstain. Like any food or drink, use self control.
 
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@HigherGospel

Regarding your feelings about alcohol. You presented some studies done by man about consequences of drinking.
Are you inclined to trust unbelieving scientists or is it just a fleeting dalliance. I'm kind of shocked that one who claims to be a follower of Christ would use science to support his doctrine.

Furthermore, you didn't even cite one alcohol study from the scriptures! How careless! How can I take you seriously if you don't cite the Biblical alcohol studies? Any serious Christian would love the whole truth yet you seem content to only offer the wisdom of man as proof of your beliefs.