How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?
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Jesus did fast literally, as the Scripture states, for 40 days and 40 nights. For this time period He was tempted by Satan.
Where in the whole Bible does it say that spiritual fasting gives life? Jesus gives life, believing in Him and doing His will gives life.
After reading your comments, i know that English isn’t your mother tongue. English is a very difficult language to learn and the longer the sentences the more complex it becomes, as you must know. Many of your sentences are good, but when you stumble in word usage, or in syntax, the thought becomes incoherent. As you are probably aware! The same goes for other languages too….
Still you’re doing much better than I am in another language!
Anyway, I would stay away from Revelation, for the time being. It’s very hard to decipher. I would read John, then skip to Romans, Galatians, then onward.
Making my post without having read everything...
One way we will know Jesus coming, is we will see him coming in glory riding a cloud. The whole world will see him coming, with a trumpet blast.
One way we will know Jesus coming, is we will see him coming in glory riding a cloud. The whole world will see him coming, with a trumpet blast.
Absurd statement. You simply do not understand what it means to be saved. You doubt the power of God to keep his people from falling. You do not know what eternal life is. You imagine that what is born of God can perish. And you criticise OSAS? You are the one who denies God's word.
OSAS is NOT Scriptural. You can’t prove it without wresting Scripture. It’s heresy!
You seem to be adding to what Paul says. Including the 1 Thessalonians 5:20 and 22 to your passage we get: "Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil."
There is no instruction as to how to test, and even if Paul had referenced scripture, at the time he was writing there was no canon of scripture, some works were accepted by some groups that we do not count as scripture today, and very little of the total New Testament was even written, some of Paul's letters, Mark, likely Jude, maybe John, but that would likely be all, and likely not considered scripture yet.
"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."
I John 4:1, 6 NKJV
1 John was likely written at least 20 years after 1 Thessalonians, so I doubt Paul was referencing it. But also, this passage is not really saying anything different, Paul and John are agreeing. But neither passage references scripture as the means of testing and again, even if they would reference scripture, what we call the New Testament would not have qualified at such an early date. Scripture at that time was our Old Testament, plausibly plus a few books that are not commonly included, and maybe not all of our OT.
Actually, I talk to other biblical scholars and ask them if I am wrong. With very few exceptions they confirm what I am saying. Many times I am quoting well-respected biblical scholars.
I am not saying that the bible is filled with mistakes either, nor that people are wrong about God. What I am saying is that we are sometimes misunderstanding what the Bible says, and given the number of disagreements in the discussions I read here, there is a lot of disagreement about what the Bible means, so how can I be wrong when I say that sometimes people are misunderstanding it? Please explain how one person supporting OSAS and one opposing it can both be correct in their understanding.
You are the one who rejects the truth. You do not know the true nature of salvation. You do not know what it means to be born again. How can something born of God die? Do you know what eternal means? Do you not know that believers have the life of Christ, which is indestructible? Do you not know the meaning of indestructible?
You have a wrong concept of salvation. You stick to it even when God's word proves you wrong. And you have the hide to criticise those who reject your false assertions.
I'm not adding to the Bible and I'm aware God's word doesn't require my help... John wrote specifically about testing spirits to see if they are from God which wasn't my idea to write and, even if it wasn't written when Paul wrote to the Thessalonians, we have the scriptures now. There's no reason not to use them and we should always do so. We should also pray on such subjects for wisdom....
so, continue, even through any and all troubles anyone goes through. I see the book of Job as is for each person ever born here. To not deny God. To last through all the adversities we will encounter and not give up on God Job 1:22, 2:10 can we, will we, do we see the challenge Satan made to God over Job in Job 1, now your name there as well to last through to that chalenger too
Will you decide to stand in trust to God Col 1:21-23 no matter what? Thank you
Evil, only distorts the truth as I see in the day when Jesus went out to the desert to be tried to be tempted by Satan. Christ only stated back truth from Father doing the work through him. Can we submit this to Dad, Father, PaPa too? I bet we can, yet many do not, yet Father patiently works with all people that do sincerely or will one day sincerely believe Father. Then trains us each up how to stand in the praise and worship band by the done work of Son for us all first. We can say by God's love and mercy first we do the dame as a response in thanksgiving and praise only, thank you Father and Son as Won for us all to choose, freely
I see Jehoshaphat did that against three armies that ended up killing each other over the praise and worship band that Jehoshaphat sent out. Who does that when war is about to take place, God does that, our turn to praise God even if in troubles presently and watch God move in God's mysterious ways.
Well when I had a paper accepted after peer review for an international conference I was accepted as one. I don't know that such has changed over the past few years. I still get cited as one occasionally.
John says to test the spirits, Paul says to test. Now since you are not adding to scripture, which of those statements tells us how to test, or what to use, remember you claimed we need to use scripture? But Satan is a spirit and he used scripture against Jesus. Which of those statements tells us that what John or Paul wrote even qualifies as scripture? The New Testament canon was not formalized for another 300 years and there were extensive debates over which works would qualify, for instance, the "Shepherd" was widely accepted in the East while "Revelation" was more accepted in the West, and due to politics, "Revelation" won out. The "Didache" and "1 Clement" were ruled out because they did not have apostolic authorship, but apostolic authorship had to be invented for "Hebrews" to get it in.