The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[TMS]

These Scriptures indicate that the main reason Jesus was crucified was for the crime of breaking Sabbath law and claiming to be from God/Messiah. We see that Jesus never taught anyone to keep the fourth commandment and never hinted that it was an eternal moral law, but instead indicated that it is merely Levitical tradition, and so Paul wrote “Do not let anyone judge you… with regard to a Sabbath day” (Col. 2:16).

THE 10 Commandments are the LAW OF GOD. The 4th commandment is part of the LAW OF GOD.

Leviticus covers many different laws. Jesus obeyed the 10 commandments perfectly so the Sabbath was perfectly kept by Jesus. Leviticus mentions sabbath days that are not related to the 4th commandment so Col 2:16 must be referring to these sabbaths. As Lord of the Sabbath Jesus was our example.

 

[TMS]

In this passage the Lord says that the OC including the Sabbath commandment is obsolete/superseded by the Gospel of Christ. Need GW say more?

When Jesus came DID HE SUPERSED THE MORAL LAWS? no He superseded the ceremonial laws, He was the antitype of all the ceremonial laws. The law about murder and having other gods or the law about coveting or lying did not change. All 10 0f the commandments are the same. even Jesus said so and later James and Paul said so. James 2 Matt 19:17, Rom 13

 

[Undergrace1]

internal external, it is all part of the process. .

Well it is good if you realise, if you do not obey internally, you transgress the TC.
In thoughts/desires
That was the example given by Paul as to why he had to die to the law/righteousness of obeying it. So, to him it was a big deal, Im glad it is to you also. Jesus berated the pharisees for only seeking to clean the outside of the cup. Those who do not relate the TC to what goes on, on the inside of man do the same

 

[mailmandan]

it is Jesus, the messiah to whom all authority in heaven and on earth was given that that say we MUST keep the commandments to enter into life, see the verses;

If ye love me, keep my commandments. (john 14:15)
If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (mat 19:17)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my word, he shall never see death.(John 8:51)

So, MUST or else. Salvation by works. What do you believe it means to "keep" (Greek word - "tereo") God's commandments? Perfectly obey 100% of the time or something else? It's painfully obvious that whatever you believe it means, you (confidently and self-righteously) believe that you have sufficiently done so and will receive eternal life based on the merits of your performance by meeting that standard, but as for believers who find their 'sabbatismos' rest in Jesus Christ (Hebrews 4:9) and not in observing a specific day (Colossians 2:16-17) you would say we have not kept the 4th commandment and therefore, (have not kept God's commandments) and we will not be saved because of it. That's what this whole division between SDA's and non-SDA believers is all about. Just admit it.

 

[Undergrace1]

Have you perfectly obeyed the 10 commandments?

It is interesting, when they insist you must obey the TC, they never add to that they themselves transgress them
If they don't know they do, they have serious problems
If they do know they do, and mislead others by their statements, they are guilty of not practicing what they preach, Jesus reserved his harshest words for the religious who acted that way

 

[Undergrace1]

THE 10 Commandments are the LAW OF GOD. The 4th commandment is part of the LAW OF GOD.

Leviticus covers many different laws. Jesus obeyed the 10 commandments perfectly so the Sabbath was perfectly kept by Jesus. Leviticus mentions sabbath days that are not related to the 4th commandment so Col 2:16 must be referring to these sabbaths. As Lord of the Sabbath Jesus was our example.

Of course, Jesus did live when the old covenant was in operation:
New covenant:
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind Rom14:5
And of course, it is worthy of repeating. When the first century church leaders met to discuss which Mosaic laws gentiles be asked to follow, if avoiding the levitical unclean foods was still applicable law, they would have been under obligation to state Gentiles must hold to those laws.
As you agree, sin is the transgression of the law, failure to obey applicable law results in sin
And I hope you would agree, believers do not have the right to pick and choose whether they commit sin or not. So, if those laws are still applicable, the church, including Paul, Peter and James must have given gentiles a licence to sin. Paul of course confirmed in Rom ch14 what the council must have believed:
ALL food is clean, for the first century church leaders would have given no one a licence to sin

 

[vassal]

Have you perfectly obeyed the 10 commandments?

Is a newborn child expected to run a marathon a day after his birth? is a born again Christian in the Holy Spirit expected to be Holy immediately?, there is a learning curve. One must start somewhere and have the will do to so. Fortunately Jesus promised to send us the spirit of Truth to help understand and persevere. God makes all things possible we cannot on our own.. The heart is the key, One must love God enough to be able to trust in his words and do His will. Jesus certainly did God's will. God made us in His image and said Be Holy as I AM Holy. Read John 17 and you will understand why.

just try to keep them all and see what happens are you afraid of change? God wants the best for us.

 

[Undergrace1]

Is a newborn child expected to run a marathon a day after his birth? is a born again Christian in the Holy Spirit expected to be Holy immediately?, there is a learning curve. One must start somewhere and have the will do to so. Fortunately Jesus promised to send us the spirit of Truth to help understand and persevere. God makes all things possible we cannot on our own.. The heart is the key, One must love God enough to be able to trust in his words and do His will. Jesus certainly did God's will. God made us in His image and said Be Holy as I AM Holy. Read John 17 and you will understand why.

just try to keep them all and see what happens are you afraid of change? God wants the best for us.

Perhaps you could let us know when you perfectly obey what Paul termed the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation

 

[vassal]

So, MUST or else. Salvation by works. What do you believe it means to "keep" (Greek word - "tereo") God's commandments? Perfectly obey 100% of the time or something else? It's painfully obvious that whatever you believe it means, you (confidently and self-righteously) believe that you have sufficiently done so and will receive eternal life based on the merits of your performance by meeting that standard, but as for believers who find their 'sabbatismos' rest in Jesus Christ (Hebrews 4:9) and not in observing a specific day (Colossians 2:16-17) you would say we have not kept the 4th commandment and therefore, (have not kept God's commandments) and we will not be saved because of it. That's what this whole division between SDA's and non-SDA believers is all about. Just admit it.

@Undergrace1 ( for you too)
Let me answer you straight without dancing around anything.
Jesus’ words are clear. I didn’t invent anything. He said it.
If ye love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15).
If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments (Matthew 19:17).
If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death (John 8:51).

That is not “salvation by works.”
That is Jesus describing what real faith looks like.
He never separated faith from obedience. People only do that when they don’t like what He said.

You asked what it means to “keep” the commandments. Jesus wasn’t speaking in riddles. “Keep” simply means obey, guard, follow, be loyal. Jesus wasn’t demanding flawless perfection, He was calling for a faithful heart that listens to Him and walks in His way. That is not self-righteousness. That is discipleship.

Now let me address your points.

First, you ran immediately to Hebrews 4 and Colossians 2 to cancel what Jesus said. That alone proves the problem. Jesus never said, “You have sabbath rest in Me, so forget the commandment.” What He did say was this:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law (Matthew 5:17).
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law (Matthew 5:18).
Whosoever shall break one of the least commandments… shall be called least (Matthew 5:19).

Heaven and earth are still here, and His words still stand!

Second, you claim I think I obey perfectly. I never said that. Jesus never required perfection, only faithful obedience. He said:
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak (Matthew 26:41).
Blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it (Luke 11:28).

Keeping God’s commandments means following what He said, turning your life toward Him, and not living in rebellion. It means loyalty, not sinless performance.

Third, you argue that if the Sabbath is required, then you’re lost. I never said you were lost. But Jesus did say you cannot cancel a commandment. The Sabbath is part of the Ten. Jesus kept it. His disciples kept it. He never changed it, removed it, or even hinted that it was gone.

If that truth makes people uncomfortable, the issue is not with me. It’s with the One who spoke those words.

You said, “Just admit it.” Fine. I’ll admit this:

Jesus says the commandments matter.
Jesus says obedience matters.
Jesus says entering into life involves keeping God’s word.
Jesus says those who love Him follow what He said.
Jesus never abolished a single commandment.

If that’s a problem for you, your argument is not with me.
Take it up with the King of Kings who said it.

 

[Undergrace1]

@Undergrace1 ( for you too)
Let me answer you straight without dancing around anything.
Jesus’ words are clear. I didn’t invent anything. He said it.
If ye love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15).
If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments (Matthew 19:17).
If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death (John 8:51).

That is not “salvation by works.”
That is Jesus describing what real faith looks like.
He never separated faith from obedience. People only do that when they don’t like what He said.

You asked what it means to “keep” the commandments. Jesus wasn’t speaking in riddles. “Keep” simply means obey, guard, follow, be loyal. Jesus wasn’t demanding flawless perfection, He was calling for a faithful heart that listens to Him and walks in His way. That is not self-righteousness. That is discipleship.

Now let me address your points.

First, you ran immediately to Hebrews 4 and Colossians 2 to cancel what Jesus said. That alone proves the problem. Jesus never said, “You have sabbath rest in Me, so forget the commandment.” What He did say was this:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law (Matthew 5:17).
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law (Matthew 5:18).
Whosoever shall break one of the least commandments… shall be called least (Matthew 5:19).

Heaven and earth are still here, and His words still stand!

Second, you claim I think I obey perfectly. I never said that. Jesus never required perfection, only faithful obedience. He said:
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak (Matthew 26:41).
Blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it (Luke 11:28).

Keeping God’s commandments means following what He said, turning your life toward Him, and not living in rebellion. It means loyalty, not sinless performance.

Third, you argue that if the Sabbath is required, then you’re lost. I never said you were lost. But Jesus did say you cannot cancel a commandment. The Sabbath is part of the Ten. Jesus kept it. His disciples kept it. He never changed it, removed it, or even hinted that it was gone.

If that truth makes people uncomfortable, the issue is not with me. It’s with the One who spoke those words.

You said, “Just admit it.” Fine. I’ll admit this:

Jesus says the commandments matter.
Jesus says obedience matters.
Jesus says entering into life involves keeping God’s word.
Jesus says those who love Him follow what He said.
Jesus never abolished a single commandment.

If that’s a problem for you, your argument is not with me.
Take it up with the King of Kings who said it.

So how do we obey Jesus commands:
Carry each others burdens(love them) and so fulfil the law of Christ Gal6:2
Jesus commands are mainly examples of loving others, hence Paul’s words.
If you love someone enough you will lend to them without expecting anything back
If you love someone enough, you will happily carry a heavy load of theirs not one mile but two
If you loved your enemies enough, you would offer them more than what they stole from you
If you loved the poor, blind, lame and beggars enough, you would invite them home for a meal, rather than friends and family etc
What commands did John not consider burdensome?
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1John3:22&23

The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Gal5:6
The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Rom13:9&10
A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another John13:34

 

[Undergrace1]

@Undergrace1 ( for you too)
Let me answer you straight without dancing around anything.
Jesus’ words are clear. I didn’t invent anything. He said it.
If ye love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15).
If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments (Matthew 19:17).
If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death (John 8:51).

That is not “salvation by works.”
That is Jesus describing what real faith looks like.
He never separated faith from obedience. People only do that when they don’t like what He said.

You asked what it means to “keep” the commandments. Jesus wasn’t speaking in riddles. “Keep” simply means obey, guard, follow, be loyal. Jesus wasn’t demanding flawless perfection, He was calling for a faithful heart that listens to Him and walks in His way. That is not self-righteousness. That is discipleship.

Now let me address your points.

First, you ran immediately to Hebrews 4 and Colossians 2 to cancel what Jesus said. That alone proves the problem. Jesus never said, “You have sabbath rest in Me, so forget the commandment.” What He did say was this:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law (Matthew 5:17).
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law (Matthew 5:18).
Whosoever shall break one of the least commandments… shall be called least (Matthew 5:19).

Heaven and earth are still here, and His words still stand!

Second, you claim I think I obey perfectly. I never said that. Jesus never required perfection, only faithful obedience. He said:
The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak (Matthew 26:41).
Blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it (Luke 11:28).

Keeping God’s commandments means following what He said, turning your life toward Him, and not living in rebellion. It means loyalty, not sinless performance.

Third, you argue that if the Sabbath is required, then you’re lost. I never said you were lost. But Jesus did say you cannot cancel a commandment. The Sabbath is part of the Ten. Jesus kept it. His disciples kept it. He never changed it, removed it, or even hinted that it was gone.

If that truth makes people uncomfortable, the issue is not with me. It’s with the One who spoke those words.

You said, “Just admit it.” Fine. I’ll admit this:

Jesus says the commandments matter.
Jesus says obedience matters.
Jesus says entering into life involves keeping God’s word.
Jesus says those who love Him follow what He said.
Jesus never abolished a single commandment.

If that’s a problem for you, your argument is not with me.
Take it up with the King of Kings who said it.

When my mother whom I dearly loved was diagnosed terminally ill with cancer, my wife and I went to look after her in her home. Before the illness progressed I used to take my mother to see her friends, and bring her friends to see her. I would take her out to her favourite places. Nothing was too much to do for her. I laid aside my own wants and desires. My happiness and joy was seeing my mother happy in the time she had left to live. One evening I stood outside my mother’s bungalow, pondering the fact I was living closer to the biblical ideal than I had ever previously done. And, I did not covet what was my mothers, I did not lie about her, want to steal from her, I honoured her. In fact, where God’s laws were concerned I was obeying them all where my mother was concerned. Did I have to look to a list of laws in the ten commandments and strive to obey them where my mother was concerned? No! I never once thought of them during that time. So why was I obeying them? Because I loved my mother dearly. Love really does fulfil the law.

 

[vassal]

So how do we obey Jesus commands:
Carry each others burdens(love them) and so fulfil the law of Christ Gal6:2
Jesus commands are mainly examples of loving others, hence Paul’s words.
If you love someone enough you will lend to them without expecting anything back
If you love someone enough, you will happily carry a heavy load of theirs not one mile but two
If you loved your enemies enough, you would offer them more than what they stole from you
If you loved the poor, blind, lame and beggars enough, you would invite them home for a meal, rather than friends and family etc
What commands did John not consider burdensome?
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1John3:22&23

The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Gal5:6
The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Rom13:9&10
A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another John13:34

did you forget the first four commandments that jesus summarized as ;
“And he said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the great and first commandment.
And a second like unto it is this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”
— Matthew 22:37–40 (ASV)

 

[vassal]

When my mother whom I dearly loved was diagnosed terminally ill with cancer, my wife and I went to look after her in her home. Before the illness progressed I used to take my mother to see her friends, and bring her friends to see her. I would take her out to her favourite places. Nothing was too much to do for her. I laid aside my own wants and desires. My happiness and joy was seeing my mother happy in the time she had left to live. One evening I stood outside my mother’s bungalow, pondering the fact I was living closer to the biblical ideal than I had ever previously done. And, I did not covet what was my mothers, I did not lie about her, want to steal from her, I honoured her. In fact, where God’s laws were concerned I was obeying them all where my mother was concerned. Did I have to look to a list of laws in the ten commandments and strive to obey them where my mother was concerned? No! I never once thought of them during that time. So why was I obeying them? Because I loved my mother dearly. Love really does fulfil the law.

I agree but remember the first four.

 

[Undergrace1]

did you forget the first four commandments that jesus summarized as ;
“And he said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the great and first commandment.
And a second like unto it is this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”
— Matthew 22:37–40 (ASV)

I don't think Paul forgot in Gal6:2, no.
I was discussing Jesus commands, as you said we need to obey them. Many make the mistake of looking to individual commands and striving to obey them. Not so! The more you love, the more what is written in the law is reflected in your life, hence:
All we need is faith working through love Gal5:6

 

[mailmandan]

@Undergrace1 ( for you too)
Let me answer you straight without dancing around anything.

I appreciate you answering instead of dancing around my questions.

Jesus’ words are clear. I didn’t invent anything. He said it.

Yes, His words are clear and they are also clear in (John 3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26).

If ye love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15).

This is how we demonstrate our love for Christ.

thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments (Matthew 19:17).

Jesus was not teaching salvation by works and Jesus meant to convict the rich young ruler and even showed him how short he falls of even keeping the first commandment (Exodus 20:3) which is the first of the two great commandments. (Deuteronomy 6:5; Matthew 22:37) The rich young ruler declared that he has kept the commandments from his youth up and qualified for heaven under those terms yet Jesus knew the man's wealth had become his idolatrous god, which kept him from believing in Jesus unto salvation.

If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death (John 8:51).

You seem to confuse 'descriptive' passages of scripture with 'prescriptive' passages of scripture and the end result is works righteousness.

That is not “salvation by works.” That is Jesus describing what real faith looks like.

It's salvation by works if you teach that keeping the commandments is the basis or means by which we obtain salvation. Again you must not confuse 'descriptive' passages of scripture with 'prescriptive' passages of scripture.

He never separated faith from obedience. People only do that when they don’t like what He said.

Faith produces obedience yet faith in essence is not obedience/works. Faith is the root of salvation and works are the fruit. We must not conflate faith and obedience which "follows" and is produced out of faith.

You asked what it means to “keep” the commandments. Jesus wasn’t speaking in riddles. “Keep” simply means obey, guard, follow, be loyal. Jesus wasn’t demanding flawless perfection, He was calling for a faithful heart that listens to Him and walks in His way. That is not self-righteousness. That is discipleship.

To "keep" means to guard, observe, watch over and not flawless perfection.

http://biblehub.com/greek/5083.htm

It become self righteousness when you define it as flawless perfection OR turn keeping the commandments into the basis or means by which you obtain salvation.

Now let me address your points.

First, you ran immediately to Hebrews 4 and Colossians 2 to cancel what Jesus said.

It's not about canceling what Jesus said, still under the old covenant, prior to the new covenant being fully established.

That alone proves the problem.

Conflating the old and new covenants remains your problem.

Jesus never said, “You have sabbath rest in Me, so forget the commandment.” What He did say was this:

Why word Jesus say that to the Israelites while still under the old covenant? Our 'sabbatismos' rest in Christ is mentioned in Hebrews 4:9.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law (Matthew 5:17).
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law (Matthew 5:18).
Whosoever shall break one of the least commandments… shall be called least (Matthew 5:19).

So, according to your eisegesis here, we all remain under the old covenant of law.

Heaven and earth are still here, and His words still stand!

So, the old covenant of law still stands? Not so. (2 Corinthians 3:6-9; Hebrews 8:13)

Second, you claim I think I obey perfectly. I never said that. Jesus never required perfection, only faithful obedience. He said: The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak (Matthew 26:41). Blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it (Luke 11:28).

I asked you if you believe "keep" means perfectly obey. I'm happy to see that you understand it doesn't mean perfection. Now since God's standard is perfection and we all fall short and need a Savior (Romans 3:23; 6:23) where do you draw the line in the sand on faithful obedience? I've heard people from different churches give different answers, depending on their pet doctrines.

Keeping God’s commandments means following what He said, turning your life toward Him, and not living in rebellion. It means loyalty, not sinless performance.

That is a good description.

Third, you argue that if the Sabbath is required, then you’re lost. I never said you were lost. But Jesus did say you cannot cancel a commandment. The Sabbath is part of the Ten. Jesus kept it. His disciples kept it. He never changed it, removed it, or even hinted that it was gone.

It's not about canceling a commandment but the old covenant becoming obsolete and being under a new covenant. Jesus kept the sabbath because He was born under the law (Galatians 4:4) and His disciples were also under the law. Things have changed under the new covenant. (2 Corinthians 3:6-9; Colossians 2:16-17; 8:13) The law on our heart and mind is the love of the Spirit, not the letter of the law. This is why Paul tells us that the new covenant is a covenant of the Spirit, and not of the letter.

If that truth makes people uncomfortable, the issue is not with me. It’s with the One who spoke those words.

The truth does not make me uncomfortable but legalism and false gospels do.

You said, “Just admit it.” Fine. I’ll admit this:

Jesus says the commandments matter.
Jesus says obedience matters.
Jesus says entering into life involves keeping God’s word.
Jesus says those who love Him follow what He said.
Jesus never abolished a single commandment.

If that’s a problem for you, your argument is not with me.
Take it up with the King of Kings who said it.

So, based on your eisegesis, you just admitted you believe that believers who find their 'sabbatismos' rest in Jesus Christ (Hebrews 4:9) and not in observing a specific day (Colossians 2:16-17) have not kept the 4th commandment and therefore, (have not kept God's commandments) and will not be saved because of it and also that's what this whole division between SDA's and non-SDA believers is all about. Thank you for admitting it.

 

[Inquisitor]

Comment :

If I may, I will offer more on this subject.

Until repentance, baptism and the laying on of hands to receive the Holy Spirit --all -- every last human on earth has sinned and been sentenced to death and are "UNDER the LAW", under sentence of death.

Once our penalty of death has been paid by the sacrifice of Christ, which is accomplished as stated above, we are no longer UNDER penalty of death, under the law.

but we are still subject to the law and must struggle against sin for the rest of our lives. that is called "overcoming".

But as we all still have human nature, we will sin. hopefully less and less as we overcome and grow in righteousness.

IF?? IF when we catch ourselves sinning,, we run to our Father in repentance, those new sins are washed away by the blood of Christ.

A follower of Christ will and must be in a repentant state of mind until the Resurrection.

those converted, those worshiping, those following Jesus Christ -- are imitators of Christ -- are copying the example Christ gave us to follow, we are to become copiers of Christ in all things.

Jesus was circumcised in Israel as a baby on the 8th day.

You cannot be circumcised.

Already you have been disqualified from association with every Jew in Israel.

Jesus was under the entire law of Moses.

You do not follow in the footsteps of Jesus because you reject 99.9% of the law.

Do not deceive people into thinking that you imitate Jesus Christ with respect to the law.

 

[Inquisitor]

Yes, Jesus is very clear: keeping His commandments is tied to life. He doesn’t make exceptions for anyone. No one is a “special case” outside obedience. Breaking the commandments doesn’t mean you automatically lose salvation in some abstract sense, but Jesus warns plainly that entering life requires keeping them.
Look at your verses:

• John 14:15 – Love is shown by obedience. Love without obedience is empty.
• Matthew 19:17 – Eternal life is conditional on keeping the commandments. Jesus doesn’t hedge this.
• John 8:51 – Keeping His word (His teachings and commands) is directly connected to life.

So yes, transgressing the Ten Commandments is serious. It is not about being “special” or “above the law.” The apostles never claimed any exemption, and Jesus Himself lived perfectly under the law to show us the path. Anyone claiming that keeping the commandments doesn’t matter is ignoring Jesus’ own words.
This is why the modern idea that “Jesus replaced the commandments” or that obedience is optional is flat wrong. Jesus Himself commands obedience, and His life proves it is possible.

There are other commandments spoken by Jesus that are not in the ten.

Tell me, what happens if you love the world or money?

 

[Inquisitor]

THE 10 Commandments are the LAW OF GOD. The 4th commandment is part of the LAW OF GOD.

Leviticus covers many different laws. Jesus obeyed the 10 commandments perfectly so the Sabbath was perfectly kept by Jesus. Leviticus mentions sabbath days that are not related to the 4th commandment so Col 2:16 must be referring to these sabbaths. As Lord of the Sabbath Jesus was our example.

Jesus was circumcised according to the law.

Don't pretend that you follow the law because you do not.

 

[Inquisitor]

When Jesus came DID HE SUPERSED THE MORAL LAWS? no He superseded the ceremonial laws, He was the antitype of all the ceremonial laws. The law about murder and having other gods or the law about coveting or lying did not change. All 10 0f the commandments are the same. even Jesus said so and later James and Paul said so. James 2 Matt 19:17, Rom 13

The Gentiles were given four rules to follow.

Acts 15:28-29
For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials:
that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from
fornication; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell.

Are you overriding the instruction of the Holy Spirit to the Gentiles?

And by what authority do you make the claim that Gentiles must obey the law?

 

[memberofthebride]

Jesus was circumcised in Israel as a baby on the 8th day.

You cannot be circumcised.

Already you have been disqualified from association with every Jew in Israel.

Jesus was under the entire law of Moses.

You do not follow in the footsteps of Jesus because you reject 99.9% of the law.

Do not deceive people into thinking that you imitate Jesus Christ with respect to the law.

comment:

I do not agree with one word you wrote, actually I do not under stand it?
How have I been disqualified?
How have I rejected 99.9 of the law?
How am I not following the path Jesus taught?

Jesus was circumcised in Israel as a baby on the 8th day.

You cannot be circumcised.

Already you have been disqualified from association with every Jew in Israel.

Jesus was under the entire law of Moses.

You do not follow in the footsteps of Jesus because you reject 99.9% of the law.

Do not deceive people into thinking that you imitate Jesus Christ with respect to the law.

I do not agree -- prove your allegations