Of the people we know well, do you believe we can know which people are ultimately saved
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I messed up
Ultimately God knows and I stand in trust to Gosd over it all, seeing. I am no better tan anyone else ever and am forgiven lthe same as all ar sin Son
Romans 2:1-4, Matthew 18:24-35, Luke 18:9-14
As long as they're alive I choose to encourage and admonish all who hope in the Lord. So no I won't assess anyone as already condemned. It's not over till it's over.
No, but you can know which Christians are following Christ and which Christians are disciples in name only. By their fruits you will know them.
Even this is hard to do being we can’t see if they’re bearing that fruit only in front of others(aka hypocrite) or if they’re bearing it all the time even when no one is around. I choose to give them the benefit of doubt and go by the fruits I see. Either way I would say it’s best to treat others the same fruit or no fruit.
So you just leave them there and gloat wickedly at them?
Pray for them that their hearts fully turn and commit themselves to God before it's too late at least.
God has brought Scripture to my attention about you. You aren't right before God either.
They leave themselves there. The ball is in their court.So you just leave them there and gloat wickedly at them?
Pray for them that their hearts fully turn and commit themselves to God before it's too late at least.
God has brought Scripture to my attention about you. You aren't right before God either.
False dichotomy. The third option is only God knows who is saved and who is condemned, except we can know for ourselves.
No you don't. You can't take my word for it, just as I can't take your word for it.If that is true, then I know if you are saved or not.
Your response proves there is never a third option to this type of poll question.
Even we can’t know though as we only know our past and present. There are many who believed they were saved Christian’s who have since converted to Islam or became atheists. We can’t know our own futures.
you remind me of yesterday! yes, just yesterday, i was talking to a born again Christian female who wouldn't pray for someone because she has too many people in the family needing prayers. so i said to her, "every time someone asks you to pray for someone, do you tell them that statement all the time? i was surprise she said that. i don't think it was her mood, i think she regularly doesn't pray for people, at least often.So you just leave them there and gloat wickedly at them?
Pray for them that their hearts fully turn and commit themselves to God before it's too late at least.
God has brought Scripture to my attention about you. You aren't right before God either.
"I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life." -- I John 5:13 ESV
I know.
If, after praying for people for many months, they refuse to be of good faith, I ask them. If you find I am right and you find out you are in dead faith, will you change. Everyone one of them wouldn't answer the question and they still refuse to change.