The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

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nailing to a piece of wood is nothing.

Nailing the finger that wrote the commandment, the Greatest act of Humility in all of earth's history and done so by the Essential "Soul" of Torah, to the "piece of wood" is nothing?!

It is absolutely necessary that we should die, and that Grace shown us is absolutely unwarranted that we should live, but it is positively absolutely not 'nothing.'
 
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pine you only attack, we know nothing about where you stand on doctrines

bride you refuse to answer questions about the words of Jesus after He rose from the dead and you won't go near Revelation.

Seems you falsely accuse. If you don't know what salvation is, or Who salvation is, then you will not know
 
As me a question about Jesus Christ


I already asked you the same 2 questions a few times. Why are you pretending I didn't?

What part do you think Jesus plays in salvation?

Do you believe that Jesus rose from the dead?

Now you have FOUR questions about Jesus. Don't play games with me
 
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Because there is nothing in the WORD, nothing Christ ever said that confirms the Torah, that existed before creation, would or could be abolished.

I have studied the Torah for decades, which has provisions for everything -- i have never found a single scripture explaining how or why the Torah could or would be abolished.

i will believe if you will show me the legal means of doing so. nailing to a piece of wood is nothing.

i will also keep asking this simple question, why is the Torah so hated" if the entire world would just keep the last 6 Commandments there would be peace and safety worldwide!

Can you at least answer my last question? why is peace and safety not desirable??

I know the answer -- the human nature we all inherited from Adam, makes it impossible for us to obey.

Well, you finally realized that no one could obey the 10 commandments.

Definitely not in our thought life.

The law condemns you and the rest of them.

So why give a law that no one can obey?

Even Moses failed to enter the promised land and that's saying something.
 
I have studied the Torah for decades, which has provisions for everything -- i have never found a single scripture explaining how or why the Torah could or would be abolished.

Isn't that rich? Touting devotion of a lifetime while flippantly dismissing 'the piece of wood' that Jesus, the LORD of LORDS poured His life out on! Heb 12:4
 
Nailing the finger that wrote the commandment, the Greatest act of Humility in all of earth's history and done so by the Essential "Soul" of Torah, to the "piece of wood" is nothing?!

It is absolutely necessary that we should die, and that Grace shown us is absolutely unwarranted that we should live, but it is positively absolutely not 'nothing.'


If the book of the Torah was nailed to a piece of wood -- what effect if any does that cause?

Show me from the Torah that the Torah can be abolished and how and where that is explained in the Torah?

The death of Christ is the most monumental event for all eternity.
The Torah which took the life of Christ when He accepted all our sin, why end it?
If the Torah is abolished we have no further need to repent of sin or be baptized and actually no more need for His sacrifice if there is no way for humans to sin, do you understand the logic?
If there is no law to transgress there can me no sin.
 
Yes, scripture and the spirit do, but the 10 don't

The New Covenant does not remove the commandments. It moves them from stone into the heart. God promised this long before Jesus came. He said that in the new covenant He would write His law inside His people so they could walk in it with a willing heart.

Jeremiah says
(Jeremiah 31:33 NKJV)
"But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord. I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they shall be My people."
And again
(Jeremiah 31:34 NKJV)
"They shall all know Me... for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."

Jesus is the One who brings this covenant. Through Him the Holy Spirit is given, and the Spirit teaches us, softens our hearts, and helps us live the way God wants. Jesus said the Spirit would guide us into all truth and remind us of His words. His words include the commandments, because He said we show our love by keeping them.

Jesus said
(John 14:15 NKJV)
"If you love Me, keep My commandments."
And He promised
(John 14:26 NKJV)
"The Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you."

So when it is said “The ten commandments do not name partiality as sin,” they forget that the new covenant teaches us to see the deeper meaning of God’s commands through the Spirit. Jesus showed this when He rebuked the Pharisees for showing favoritism and honoring some people while despising others. He taught that justice, mercy, and faithfulness are at the heart of God’s law, and partiality breaks all of these.

In the new covenant the commandments are not less. They go deeper, because the Holy Spirit makes them alive in us. God does not just want written rules. He wants a changed heart that loves what is right and refuses partiality, pride, and injustice. Jesus said we must judge with righteous judgment, not by appearance (John 7:24 NKJV). This alone shows that partiality is sin, because it goes against the heart of His teaching.

So yes, Scripture and the Spirit teach that partiality is sin. And through the new covenant the Spirit writes the commandments in our hearts. That is why we can now understand them better and walk in them with a clean heart.
 
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If?? "The laws of ordinances were nailed to the cross", explain how that ended them, legally?

The cerimonial laws were added because of sin..

The cerimonial laws were established by God in the old testament to help people have faith in the coming Messiah.

They were all a type, shadow, schoolmaster of the real deal.

The lamb was a type of Christ the priesthood was a type of the ministry of Christ.

It is clear that God gave Moses a pattern of what is in heaven.
Exo 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.
Heb 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

The Earthly was a pattern of the real sanctuary in heaven. The Earthly are figures of the heavenly.

Heb 10:4-6 (also verse 1, and Heb 8:5)
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

These figures did not do anything to save us. But in Christ and His ministry is full salvation.

These rituals were never intended to be permanent but were a temporary representation of the reality found in Christ.


Col 2:14-17
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Matt 27:51 "And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent." (This signified that the earthly sacrificial system was no longer of force).

Practicing the ceremonial law today is a denial of Jesus Christ’s finished work on the cross and a regression into a system of shadows that have already met their fulfillment in the true Substance.
The ceremonial law was a temporary system of types and shadows designed solely to point toward the coming of the Saviour.

Hope that helps.
 
That was the right thing to say to him because he was under the law.


so you equate "under the Law" to mean subject to" I see it as "under" the penalty of death for transgressions

I am no longer under penalty of death BUT I am still subject to the Law. If I murder a person just in my mind I have transgressed the Law.

so it is OK for you to murder in your mind? that is not a problem?
 
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absolutely, that is a fact of Scripture

Then why do you keep adding the commandments, that Jesus fullfilled? The commandments were never kept by anyone except Jesus. Yet, you keep insisting it is the commandments and Jesus yet Jesus says He is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
 
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