The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[vassal]

You can do what you please.
It is proven that vegetarians live longer and have healthier bodies and lives.

I'm not saying you have to change in any way. But I desire to have a healthy body so I can glorify and serve my Lord.

1Co 6:19-20
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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Knowing how toxic pig flesh is..
They don't urinate much uric acid, they reabsorb it into the flesh, so your eating pig urine.... I choose to avoid it.

i am afraid you are correct and I myself have diminish eating it quite a lot, but I cant resist beacon... as for veggies only not bad but we need also a small quantity of meat on occasion, some amino acids can be found only in meat and not anywhere else of not in sufficient quantity. the problem is we eat too much meat.

 

[Dino246]

Pig is the cradle of harmful germs.

Ridiculous generalization.

Scientific evidences prove that pig meat is least healthy having different harmful agents like Cholesterol and Fatty Acids.... The pig meat is high in fat and cholesterol that causes the cardiovascular diseases, obesity, the incidence of large intestine cancer.

Debunked mythology rooted in junk "science" from the 1950's.

Flesh of the pork is hard to digest and may lead to chronic digestive disturbances.

Baseless claim.

Pimples, boils, cysts are common in pork eaters.

Another baseless claim.

The pig excretory system secretes 2 percent of its uric acid that is injurious for the human health.

Irrelevant, because humans don't eat porcine excretory tissue.

Pork consumption seriously affects human health and adversely injurious one’s moral values.

Laughably ridiculous.

It sounds like you found the very worst representation of the dangers of pork consumption from an extremely biased source. I note you didn't provide a citation.

 

[Dino246]

You can do what you please.
It is proven that vegetarians live longer and have healthier bodies and lives.

No, it is not. What is proven is that vegetarians chronically suffer from nutrient deficiencies. That's because many nutrients in plant matter are very difficult for human bodies to extract.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

No, it is not. What is proven is that vegetarians chronically suffer from nutrient deficiencies.

Correct because they don't have complete proteins like meat does that are good for building and repairing muscles and other parts of the body needed for human health.

 

[TMS]

If we follow Christ we will accomplish the righteousness demanded by the letters apart from following the letters

I'm trying to understand your logic..

I think we differ in our understanding of Justification.

I believe that as a repentant sinner Jesus gives me His righteousness, and I am seen as righteous as Jesus. A gift that I do not earn or am worthy of. But we need to repent and turn from our sins. The perfect white robe of Christ's righteousness is not given to me to freely polut and stain with sin willingly.

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

You seem to think we will recieve the gift of righteousness apart from following the letter. Without following the righteousness. Repentance is a commitment to stop doing the wrong and follow what is right.

Repentance is to stop choose to follow the righteous path rather then follow the unrighteous path..

So to believe we are given the righteousness of Christ without a change of heart (turning from the evil ways), is saying we can continue to freely sin and God does not expect Repentance.

 

[NightTwister]

Do you think this universe would be better if God gives everyone liberty to sin.

Liberty to commit adultery and steal and murder.

Do you think liberty to transgress the law and disobey the commandments will make you happy. If God removes the law and we have liberty to sin without guilt would that be a better universe to live in.

I still feel guilty when I sin so I know that the Holy Spirit is still telling me it is wrong.

France removed God and all the moral principles of God in the past. They worshiped reason and practiced lots of sinful things.. They came to ruin. Study history.

The law of liberty is the 10 commandments because if everyone obeyed them we would have true liberty.


Jas 2:10-12
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James quotes 2 of the 10 commandments and then states that we shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Where did I say liberty to sin? I didn't. Don't bear false witness.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

So to believe we are given the righteousness of Christ without a change of heart (turning from the evil ways), is saying we can continue to freely sin and God does not expect Repentance.

All that you can see is the letter. The letter kills, but the spirit brings life

 

[TMS]

No, it is not. What is proven is that vegetarians chronically suffer from nutrient deficiencies. That's because many nutrients in plant matter are very difficult for human bodies to extract.

We will be vegetarians in heaven and the new earth. Death will be no more.
God originally made us vegetarians in eden. Our DNA has not changed that much.

Don't get side tracted... this was about following God's wise council

The council of God is perfect and God knows what is best.

 

[TMS]

They don't want liberty, because it takes away their ability to judge others.

Please explain what you mean... what liberty are you referring to?

 

[TMS]

It makes perfect sense to those with eyes that see.

Well... explain it please make sense of it.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Well... explain it please make sense of it.

I already have

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

COMMENT:

typical play on words to render the Commandments of God of no effect.

here are words from Paul, Paul, The Paul used by those refusing to obey!


Romans 7

7 What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law, sin [was] (caused) dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which [was ordained] to life, I found [to be] unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew [me].

12 Wherefore the law (THE TORAH) [is] holy, and the commandment (all 10) holy, and just, and good.

Paul is stating:
the Torah is set aside for Holy use
The Commandments are also set aside for HOLY use
The Commandment are JUST, not evil, not harsh, but produce righteous judgements
And they are GOOD

will the above change any minds ?? nope:

The letter kills, but the spirit gives life

 

[TMS]

Why do the legalists so resist understanding that obeying the law is IMPOSSIBLE today?

Obeying the law means having a temple and Levitical priesthood… for starters.

Did you read post 1249... ?
It prove that the 10 commandments are not the same as the law of Moses.

 

[NightTwister]

Please explain what you mean... what liberty are you referring to?

Liberty to eat what I want and not tell others what they should eat is one example.

 

[TMS]

The thing that frustrates me is when I use the bible to prove a point. No one disproves it but they continue to believe the error that the bible has shown to be wrong.

Post 1249 shows that the 10 commandments are not the same as the law of Moses. Yet people continue to use this argument to show the moral law is void.... ??

 

[Mem]

that it may be there for a witness against thee” (Deuteronomy 31:9, 24-26).

That is a striking contrast to the Advocate Whom we now have in Christ. His blood satisfies the judgment which that witness against us demands. We're either standing for the defense of that blood (which as much upholds that judgment while also offering eternal life by the merit not of our own but the Lamb who shed it) or for the defense of that judgment.

 

[TMS]

The bible is the bases not our mental ideas or opinions. Let's use the bible only.

Do we obey the 10 commandments today?

I can not see any bible verse that states we should make any of the 10 commandments void.

Bible point 1. There is a difference between the laws.

Post 1249...

Bible Point 2. Christ’s Own Testimony on the Law.

Jesus was very clear about His relationship with the law. He did not come to remove the standard of right and wrong, but to demonstrate its perfection.

Jesus declared that as long as heaven and earth exist, not even the smallest stroke or pronunciation mark will pass from the law until all is fulfilled Matthew 5:18.

Mat 5:17-19
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

He goes on to explain the internal principles of the 10 commandments.
Jesus magnified the law by showing it reaches the intents of the heart, such as equate anger with murder and lust with adultery. He explains them so we could understand them better. Matthew 5:21-22, 27-28.

When asked what one must do to enter into life, Jesus pointed directly to the commandments: "if you will enter into life, keep the commandments" Matthew 19:17.

Point 2 Christ Testimony does not show any sign of the law being changed or removed. It shows that the law has not been changed.

 

[Dino246]

We will be vegetarians in heaven and the new earth. Death will be no more.
God originally made us vegetarians in eden. Our DNA has not changed that much.

That was in a world that was not fallen. We don't live there anymore. I have no doubt that both human DNA and plant matter were damaged by the Fall.

Don't get side tracted... this was about following God's wise council

I'm not getting sidetracked, and God's wise counsel to Noah was to to eat "everything that lives and moves" as well as plant parts (Genesis 9:3).

The council of God is perfect and God knows what is best.

The whole counsel of God is perfect. Taking bits and pieces of it out of context while enjoining your faulty interpretations on others, is not wise.

 

[Dino246]

Did you read post 1249... ?
It prove that the 10 commandments are not the same as the law of Moses.

I've read that argument, and it is irrelevant.

 

[TMS]

The bible is the bases not our mental ideas or opinions. Let's use the bible only.

Do we obey the 10 commandments today?

I can not see any bible verse that states we should make any of the 10 commandments void.

Bible point 1. There is a difference between the laws.

Post 1249 and point 2 is post 1317

Bible point 3. Faith Establishes the Law

A common misconception is that having faith in Christ releases us from the obligation to obey. However, the Apostle Paul refutes this idea directly.

Paul asks a vital question: "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yes, we establish the law" Romans 3:31.

The Purpose of the Law is to reveal sin. The law remains necessary because it provides the "knowledge of sin" Romans 3:20.
Without the law to define sin, transgression would not be known Romans 7:7.

The Law is Holy,
Even after the crucifixion, Paul affirmed that "the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just and good" Romans 7:12
and Paul stated that he "delight[ed] in the law of God after the inward man" Romans 7:22.

By the power of the Spirit in us we can keep the law.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Rom 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Point 3 Faith doesn't remove the law it enables us to obey the law.