Should the church preach the gospel?
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Of course anybody that does not follow the heresy you subscribe to is a "troll"
You people are quite the clown show!
why do you accuse all those who believe in OSAS use it as a licence to sin?
Have you asked them if they believe that or not?
Do you think they are Christian or not?
We all know that Paul addressed this in Romans 5-6 concerning using grace as a licence to sin. Shall we sin so grace abounds, by no means.
Anyone who believes that using grace as a licence to sin should read Romans and if they reject that then one has to question if they are genuine believers in the first place.
Has any genuine beliver whether OSAS OR NOT on here sinned knowing that it's wrong. If so then have they used that licence?
Where do we draw the line?
How many times before they lose their salvation?
Not all OSAS believers believe you can sin all you want and be saved.
They would never think that way.
That's what the false doctrine of once saved always saved leads so many to believe.
It's not biblical because God's Word teaches it is possible to lose salvation
1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron
2 Timothy 2:12
If we deny Him, He also will deny us
Even if you aren't living in sin, you are telling others it's no big deal if they live in sin or not when you make the false claim that it's not possible to lose salvation
So the claim "you can never lose your salvation" is heresy and is a doctrine of demons.
The real trolls are the ones teaching the heresy of once saved always saved.
In the end these trolls won't be allowed in to God's Kingdom as you people will find out about first hand
Unless of course you repent of your heresy, but going by what you people are saying that's highly unlikely
What about those who say you are not saved in the name of Jesus only or don't speak in tongues?
Are they trolls as well as they teach heresy?
Er no.
That's why they got kicked out of the Garden and the Lord had to enact His plan of salvation by sending Jesus
Maybe you should go read the account of what happened with Adam and Eve.
They sinned ONE time and the result was spiritual death, separation from God as the Lord said would happen if they sinned.
Are you claiming that under the New Testament we can sin and God winks at it where we can sow to the flesh and not reap corruption?
Read it, please don't be condescending.
So only once and they are not saved?
No God does not wink at sin but he remembers no more when we confess it.
So do you believe in the NT that if we as belivers sin once knowingly (like Adam & Eve) then we lose our salvation?
Have you done that once?
A license to sin (which I do not teach) is a license for immmorality (Jude 1:4) and is heresy. Preservation of the saints (Psalm 37:28; Jude 1:1) and eternal security of the believer (Ephesians 1:13-14; 1 Peter 1:4,5) is not heresy. Learn the difference. You don't even bother to ask believers in the OSAS camp exactly what they teach. You just falsely accuse ALL of them of promoting a license to sin/a license for immortality which makes you a false accuser of the brethren. You need to repent of your slander.
That's why they got kicked out of the Garden and the Lord had to enact His plan of salvation by sending Jesus
God said if they did what He told them not to do (sin) they would die which was a reference to spiritual death because they lived physically for hundreds of years after they sinned.
Your issue is the the truthfulness of what the Lord says.
Even if you don't believe in living in sin and are not doing so in your own life, it is causing others to stumble when you proudly and arrogantly proclaim "it's not possible to lose salvation"
Spreading this heresy is causing others to stumble and it's not biblical because God's Word teaches it is possible to lose salvation not matter how you people try to explain it away.
So once again
Have you sinned once knowingly after claiming to be a Christian?
If so would God treat you like he did with Adam & Eve, or Peter or Thomas and many others in tg Bible?
Yes or no is suffice?