The Holy Spirit/God's Word

[Blue155]

God the Father as creator

God the Son as the Creator

“Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.” (Col. 1:18).

“Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds” (Heb. 1:2)

“And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ” (Eph. 3:9)

“By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.” (Ps. 33:6)

“Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.” (Heb. 1:3-4)

“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb. 11:3)

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (Gen. 1:1)

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made” (Jn. 1:1-3)

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (Jn. 1:14)

 

[GWH]

God the Son as the Creator

“Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.” (Col. 1:18).

“Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds” (Heb. 1:2)

“And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ” (Eph. 3:9)

“By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.” (Ps. 33:6)

“Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.” (Heb. 1:3-4)

“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” (Heb. 11:3)

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (Gen. 1:1)

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made” (Jn. 1:1-3)

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (Jn. 1:14)

True, Blue, God the Son had a role in creation, so we need to add 1Cor. 15:27b-28 to the mix for clarification:

"When it says everything has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all."

 

[Blue155]

True, Blue, God the Son had a role in creation, so we need to add 1Cor. 15:27b-28 to the mix for clarification:

"When it says everything has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all."

I have a question: Since Christ is God, why did Paul say “the head of Christ is God” (1 Cor. 11:3)?

 

[GWH]

I have a question: Since Christ is God, why did Paul say “the head of Christ is God” (1 Cor. 11:3)?

Good question. In Rom. 9:5 Paul called Christ "God over all", in Phil. 2:6 Paul said Jesus was in very nature God, and
in Tit. 2:13 Paul called Jesus Christ "our great God and Savior". Jesus referred to himself as Messiah or Son of God,
implied being God by applying "I AM" to himself (e.g., in John 8:58), and accepted Thomas calling him "my Lord and my God" (John 20:28).

Thus, we should understand that Jesus was the incarnate God or God in the human dimension,
and per GW such as 1Cor. 11:3 and 15:27b-28 even post-incarnation and resurrection to heaven the Father-Son
relationship continues.

 

[Ouch]

Well, you refuse to bet, and I refuse to argue, so again we are at an impasse, pope Ouch!

Do you believe we came from monkeys?

 

[GWH]

Paul called God’s revelation from the HS “wisdom” and said it was “destined for our glory before time began (in 1Cor. 2:6-10).
The predestination of God’s wise purpose or plan of salvation/Gospel revealed to Paul is described in Eph. 1:3-14. Verses 11-12 say,
“In him [Christ/the Gospel] we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in
conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory.”

Paul perceived that this plan/Gospel was partially revealed in a few OT prophetic passages, including Isa. 42:6, “I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness… to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles.” And again in Isa. 54:13-14, “All your children will be taught by the Lord… In righteousness you will be established.”

John indicated that this prophecy (cf. Psa. 25:14) was fulfilled by believers in the Gospel receiving “an anointing from the Holy One” [the HS], who “teaches you about all things” as He remains in those who remain in him (1John 2:20-27, cf. John 16:13-14).

Moving beyond the Gospel, Peter wrote that the sanctification of the Spirit is “unto obedience” (1Pet. 1:2), and Paul also wrote about faithful obedience (in Rom. 1:5). Following the act of faith (1John 3:23), believers will manifest obedience by acts of love (1John 4:19-21, John 13:35). There is no qualitative difference between faith that accepts God’s saving grace at conversion and faith that accepts God’s working grace while walking/obeying (Eph. 2:8-10, 2Cor. 5:7), but only a quantitative difference as each additional moment passes–and of course faith remains non-meritorious during the saint’s entire lifetime.

As Paul said in Rom. 1:17, “In the Gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that from faith to faith (KJV) or by faith from first to last (NIV), just as it is written, ‘The righteous will live by faith.’” The phrase “from faith to faith” may mean historically, as from the faith of Abraham to the faith of NT believers, or it could be meant chronologically, from initial saving faith thru persevering/sanctifying faith. The latter is implied in Phil. 2:13, “For it is God [the HS] who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.”

Paul wrote (in Phil. 1:6) of being confident “that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus”. He cited the work of the HS again in 1Cor. 6:11b, “You were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” Note that this verse refers to water baptism and to baptism by the HS (1Cor. 12:13, “We were all baptized by one Spirit into one body”).

 

[GWH]

Confusion may arise from the fact that in Eph. 4:5 Paul says there is only one baptism, but elsewhere the NT seems to refer to two types of baptism: one by water and another by the HS. Any confusion is resolved by understanding that the two types of baptism are united if baptism with water is viewed as a symbolic way of portraying baptism by the HS. The details for this work are vague, but the mode of immersion best portrays a Believer’s spiritual union with Christ in His death, burial and resurrection to eternal life (Col. 2:12, Rom. 6:4). As a practical matter, a new Believer normally would be baptized by the local congregation of the catholic (worldwide) church in which he/she will want to participate as an acknowledged member of the body of Christ.

Paul also wrote of being thankful for the believers in the Thessalonian church with reference to the work of the HS, saying “…from the beginning God chose you to be saved (cf. Eph. 1:4-9) through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth” (cf. 1Tim. 2:3-4). This work is described in John as reproving the world of sin by exposing evil to the light of righteousness and judgment (John 16:8, 3:20). And this light signifies the words of God’s Spirit, which give life (John 6:63); the Spirit of truth, which testifies that Jesus is Messiah (John 15:26) or glorifies him as God’s Son (John 16:14). Thus, we see the HS is GW/Truth indwelling and thereby sanctifying souls (John 17:17-19), so they may obey Christ’s law of love and produce loving fruit (Acts 5:32, 1Pet. 1:2) as they continue to partake of the word and water of life (Matt. 4:4, 5:6, cf. Isa. 44:3 & Ezek. 36:26-27).

The sanctifying work of the HS is described as being washed in 1Cor. 6:11, and being washed with water is described as being through the word for the purpose of being holy or blameless in Eph. 5:25-27, as being cleansed of wickedness in 2Tim. 2:19-21, as being cleansed of past sins in 2Pet. 1:9, and as cleansing our consciences of sinful acts so that we may serve the living God in Heb. 9:14-15. When this occurs, the HS makes believers in Jesus as Lord conscious of being children of God as they share in Christ’s suffering while awaiting/hoping for the redemption of creation (Rom. 8:5-25, cf. Zech. 12:10, 1Cor. 12:3). As Peter said in Acts 5:30-32, the HS is given by God to those who obey him as a testimony that God raised Jesus from the dead and exalted him to his right hand so that sins may be forgiven, which is called the “sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience of Jesus Christ” in 1Pet. 1:2.

 

[GWH]

The same spirit that worked in OT believers to prepare the way for the coming of the Lord Jesus (Luke 1:17) is received by believers in God, so that the Gospel may be revealed to them in retrospect (1Cor. 2:4-13, Eph. 1:13). The Gospel seems foolish to those without the Spirit of God (1Cor. 1:18, 2Cor. 2:14), but for those who seek salvation there is no good reason to be ashamed of Christ (Rom. 1:16-17). Those who reject the Gospel are described as being stiff-necked, having uncircumcised hearts and resisting the HS, like those who persecuted the OT prophets (Acts 7:51-52, cf. Matt. 13:14-15, Rom. 2:29 & Neh. 9:30).

Again, the sanctification of the Spirit that accompanies belief in the truth (2Thes. 2:13) is foreshadowed or found mentioned in terms of spiritual circumcision in the OT (Deut. 30:6), because God desires for all sinners to be saved (1Tim. 2:3-4) by discerning and believing the Truth (1Cor. 2:14, Col. 1:5b) or receiving revelation and wisdom (Eph. 1:17), so that souls may know or experience the hope of God’s calling that is the blessing of heaven (Eph. 1:18, Col. 1:5a).

 

[biblestudent78]

The main purpose of this thread is to discuss Scriptures explaining how humanity can experience and fellowship with the Holy Spirit of God/Christ,
which correlates with learning God’s Holy Word. Achieving this goal requires systematic study of New Testament doctrines including spiritual dynamics, prayer and sanctification.

To date there have been about 117 billion of us born. Until the 20th century few if anybody outside of the English speaking world could read the bible. Often it was not in their language even if they could read. Is it your perspective that nobody could understand the Holy Spirit prior to being educated into literacy?

 

[biblestudent78]

The Holy Spirit is the vital and active third person of the Trinity. I did not compile the following list, but each notation is based on the scripture accompanying it.

1. He leads and directs. (Matthew 4:1; Mark 1:12; Luke 2:27; 4:1; Acts 8:29; Romans 8:14)
2. The Holy Spirit speaks – in, to and through. (Matthew 10:20; Acts 1:16; 2:4; 13:2; 28:25; Hebrews 3:7)
3. He gives power to cast out devils. (Matthew 12:28)
4. He releases power. (Luke 4:14)
5. The Holy Spirit anoints. (Luke 4:18; Acts 10:38)
6. The Holy Spirit “comes upon” or “falls on”. (Matthew 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 2:25; 3:22; 4:18; John 1:32,33; Acts 10:44; 11:15)
7. He baptizes and fills. (Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8; Luke 1:15,41,67; 3:16, 4:1; John 1:33; Acts 1:4-5; 2:4; 4:8,31; 6:3,5; 7:55; 10:47; 11:24; 13:9,52; 1 Corinthians 12:12)
8. He gives new birth. (John 3:5,8)
9. He leads into worship. (John 4:23)
10. He flows like a river from the spirit man. (John 7:38-39)
11. He ministers truth. (John 14:17; 15:26; 16:13)
12. He dwells in people. (John 14:17; Romans 8:9,11; 1 Corinthians 3:16)
13. The Holy Spirit gives comfort, health, and strength. (John 15:26; Acts 9:31)
14. He proceeds from the Father. (John 15:26)
15. He shows us things to come. (John 16:13)
16. He gives the gift of tongues. (Acts 2:4)
17. He releases prophecy, dreams and visions. (Acts 2:17,18; 11:28)
18. He can transport people physically. (Acts 8:39)
19. The Holy Spirit brings direction and guidance. (Mark 13:36; 13:11; Acts 10:19; 11:12; 21:11; 1 Timothy 4:1
20. He is Holiness. (Romans 1:4)
21. He is the Spirit of life and gives life. (Romans 8:1,10)
22. The Holy Spirit invites us to walk with Him. (Romans 8:4-5)
23. He groans, prays and intercedes. (Romans 8:26-27)
24. He is a Sword. (Ephesians 6:17)
25. The Holy Spirit produces fruit in our lives. (Galatians 5:22-23; Ephesians 5:9)
26. He helps us in our weakness. (Romans 8:26)
27. He bears witness. (Acts 5:32 15:28; 20:23; Romans 8:15-16; Hebrews 10:15; 1 John 4:13; 5:6-8)
28. He is the Spirit of Adoption. (Romans 8:15)
29. He gives power to mortify the deeds of the flesh. (Romans 8:13)
30. He provides power for signs, wonders and preaching. (Acts 1:8; 1 Corinthians 2:4)
31. He ministers love. (Romans 15:30)
32. He searches the deep things of God. (1 Corinthians 2:10)
33. He quickens the mortal body. (Romans 8:13)
34. He brings revelation. (Luke 2:25; 1 COrinthians 2:10,12; Ephesians 1:17-19; 3:5)
35. The Holy Spirit reveals to us what has been given by God. (1 Corinthians 2:12)
36. He washes, sanctifies, purifies and justifies. (Romans 15;16, 1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Timothy 3:16; 1 Peter 1:2,22)
37. He gives gifts. (1 Corinthians 12:4-11; Hebrews 2:4)
38. He seals us. (2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 4:30)
39. He is liberty. (2 Corinthians 3:17)
40. He changes us into the image of Christ. (2 Corinthians 3:17)
41. He is the promise of the blessing of Abraham. (Galatians 3:14)
42. He releases a cry to the Father. (Galatians 4:6)
43. He gives access to the Father. (Ephesians 2:18)
44. The Holy Spirit builds us together for a house for God. (Ephesians 2:22)
45. He strengthens us with might. (Ephesians 3:16)
46. He is unity. (Ephesians 4:3-4)
47. He is wine. (Ephesians 5:18)
48. He supplies. (Philippians 1:19)
49. He is fellowship. (2 Corinthians 13;14; Philippians 2:1)
50. He is grace. (Hebrews 10:29)
51. He is glory. (1 Peter 4:14)
52. The Holy Spirit speaks to the churches. (Revelation 2:11,17,29; 3:6,13,22)
53. He calls for the Bridegroom. (Revelation 22:17)
54. The Holy Spirit has the power of conception and anointing for God’s purposes. (Matthew 1:18,20; Luke 1:35)
55. He teaches. (Luke 12:12; John 14:26; 1 Corinthians 2:13; 1 John 2:27)
56. He gives commandments. (Acts 1:2)
57. He provides power to be a witness. (Acts 1:8)
58. He provides boldness. (Acts 4:31)
59. He give sight. (Acts 9:17)
60. He commissions. (Acts 13:4)
61. He restrains. (Acts 16:6)
62. He appoints ministries and gives them authority. (Acts 20:28)
63. He releases love. (Romans 5:5)
64. He is righteousness, peace and joy. (Romans 14:17; 15:13; 1 Thessalonians 1:6)
65. He confesses Christ’s Lordship. (1 Corinthians 12:3)
66. The Holy Spirit brings the gospel. (1 Thessalonians 1:5-6)
67. He is keeping power. (2 Timothy 1:14)
68. He brings renewal. (Titus 3:5)
69. He moves on believers. (2 Peter 1:21)
70. He convicts the world. (John 16:8)

Great research. What does it mean?

 

[GWH]

To date there have been about 117 billion of us born. Until the 20th century few if anybody outside of the English speaking world could read the bible. Often it was not in their language even if they could read. Is it your perspective that nobody could understand the Holy Spirit prior to being educated into literacy?

No, it is the NT's perspective that the Gospel and HS were not fully revealed in the OT,
and the main role of the HS was revealing GW per Jesus in John 14-16.
My perspective includes the following:

An obvious question to ask is, “What is GRFS for those who have never heard of Jesus?” (which includes everyone living B.C. and millions of people who have lived A.D.) If God loves the world (John 3:16) and wants everyone to be saved (2Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11), then He must provide an opportunity. God’s just judgment is illustrated by Jesus in the Parable of the Talents (Matt. 25:14-29), which indicates that God will judge souls on the basis of the truth (Word = Christ per John 1:1f.) they have received.

There are two main ways God/Christ is encountered:

1. General revelation, which includes meditating on the natural world or God’s supernatural work and moral conscience. Paul said men are without excuse, both because God’s eternal power and divine nature (love) are manifested by creation (Rom. 1:20), and because a proto-gospel has been proclaimed to everyone under heaven implicitly or in pre-NT foreshadowings (Col. 1:23, Rom. 10:13-18, Gal. 3:8). He also taught that all normal humans have an inner conscience or “common” sense (Rom. 2:14-16), which manifests morality or a moral Authority in every culture. Thus, sinners have no excuse for not seeking God’s salvation or being truthseekers (Matthew 7:7, Hebrews 11:6).

2. Special revelation (1Pet. 1:8-12), which refers mainly to divinely inspired NT teaching regarding God’s history of salvation. Again, the Parable of the Talents indicates that souls are saved via faith in God/ Christ as revealed (cf. 1Cor. 10:1-5). Truthseekers around the world in all times are pilgrims at various places along the road of life, and all true roads eventually lead to the Way to eternal life in heaven (John 14:6, Acts 24:14, Phil. 2:10-11). All truth leads to One Way.

 

[GWH]

The same spirit that worked in OT believers to prepare the way for the coming of the Lord Jesus (Luke 1:17) is received by believers in God, so that the Gospel may be revealed to them in retrospect (1Cor. 2:4-13, Eph. 1:13). The Gospel seems foolish to those without the Spirit of God (1Cor. 1:18, 2Cor. 2:14), but for those who seek salvation there is no good reason to be ashamed of Christ (Rom. 1:16-17). Those who reject the Gospel are described as being stiff-necked, having uncircumcised hearts and resisting the HS, like those who persecuted the OT prophets (Acts 7:51-52, cf. Matt. 13:14-15, Rom. 2:29 & Neh. 9:30).

Again, the sanctification of the Spirit that accompanies belief in the truth (2Thes. 2:13) is foreshadowed or found mentioned in terms of spiritual circumcision in the OT (Deut. 30:6), because God desires for all sinners to be saved (1Tim. 2:3-4) by discerning and believing the Truth (1Cor. 2:14, Col. 1:5b) or receiving revelation and wisdom (Eph. 1:17), so that souls may know or experience the hope of God’s calling that is the blessing of heaven (Eph. 1:18, Col. 1:5a).

Paul described the preaching of the Gospel as being empowered by the HS (in 1Thes. 1:5), and he prayed that the Ephesians would experience the same power that God exerted when He raised Christ from death to His right hand in heaven (Eph. 1:18-20). Similarly,
Paul prayed that God would empower the Thessalonians to fulfill every good purpose prompted by their faith (2Thes. 1:11, cf. Eph. 2:8-10), the same faith and seal that Abraham had (Rom. 4:11-12, cf. Eph. 1:13), the promise of the HS (Acts 2:33-39 & Isa. 44:3), the Spirit of Christ who gives life (1Cor. 15:45, John 5:21, 6:63, Rom. 8:2) to the redeemed, both Jew and Gentile (Gal. 3:13-14, Rom. 3:21-30).

Those who receive the HS are free from control by the old sinful nature and obligated to put sinful deeds to death by gaining spiritual maturity even though we are saved because of sharing the imputed righteousness of Christ (Rom. 8:1-13). Moral perfection should be every Christian’s goal, even though it will not be obtained in this earthly lifetime (Phil. 3:7-16).

 

[GWH]

Peter described Christians as a holy priesthood and nation, and he urged them to grow up in their salvation and to “abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul”, including malice, deceit, hypocrisy, envy and slander (1Pet. 2:1-11).

And Paul wrote that a Christian’s body “is a temple of the HS”, so one should honor God with one’s body (1Cor. 6:19-20), and the HS baptizes believers into the body of Christ (1Cor. 12:13&27), giving them various abilities for the common good (1Cor. 12:7), so that Christ’s church will become unified and spiritually mature by speaking the truth in love as each part does its work (Eph. 4:1-6). He also taught that it is via the HS that saints have fellowship with God by saying that the impersonal letter of the law in the old covenant is replaced by the ministry of the HS in their hearts in the new covenant (2Cor. 3:3-9).

The new covenant was foretold by Jeremiah (in Jer. 31:31-34), when spiritual Israel will know the Lord experientially as well as via the written word. The new ministration of the HS was also mentioned by Ezekiel (in Ezek. 36:26-27). Isaiah said that the new covenant included Gentiles (Isa. 42:6, cf. Rom. 15:16, 2Thes. 2:13-14, Acts 26:17-18). It was initiated by the shedding of Christ’s blood on the cross for the remission of sins (Isa. 53:1-12, Matt. 26:28), which is the Gospel and saving power of God (Rom. 1:16), but obstinate people rebel against God's Holy Spirit (Isa. 59:21, 63:10 & 65:2).

 

[GWH]

In Rom. 8:9-11 Paul said that anyone who does not have the HS does not belong to Christ, which agrees with 1Cor. 12:13 saying that the HS baptizes believers into the body of Christ. Because believers have the HS, they have been freed to live a godly instead of a worldly life, and so saints have no excuse for continuing to be sinful (1Cor. 6:13&20). Although Jesus once described the invitation to salvation as “bringing… compelling”, the fact that many who were invited refused to come indicates that God’s calling is not irresistible (Luke 14:21-24).

Much of GW teaches that God is omniloving (1Tim. 2:3-4, John 3:16, etc.), and Jesus, Paul and John define divine righteousness most succinctly as love for all (Matt. 5:44&48, 22:37-40, 1Tim. 2:3-4, 1John 4:8), but souls may be hateful and reject rather than reflect God’s Spirit of love/grace. However, those who have received the HS (Rom. 5:5) desire oneness and strive for spiritual unity, thereby granting the prayer request of Jesus in John 17:20-23.

 

[Ouch]

The main purpose of this thread is to discuss Scriptures explaining how humanity can experience and fellowship with the Holy Spirit of God/Christ,
which correlates with learning God’s Holy Word. Achieving this goal requires systematic study of New Testament doctrines including spiritual dynamics, prayer and sanctification.

Receiving the Holy Ghost is a part of being reborn.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

After we have it we have JESUS guiding us.

Acts 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

Examples of JESUS coming inside of us.

Acts 2,
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Acts 10,
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

It is a promise FOR ALL.

Acts 2:38-39
King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Don't leave earth without it.

 

[memberofthebride]

John 8
19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

Should they not also know the ghost?

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

Well, for sure this ghost did not send Christ.

John 12
.49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

This ghost had no part in telling Christ what He should speak.

John 10
29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand.

So, is the ghost greater or lesser than Christ?

30 I and [my] Father are One.

Has anyone noticed the trend; this “ghost” is never included by Christ,

And to make it clear, Jesus Christ states: I and [my] Father are “One.”

If there was ever a time to confirm the existence of a third, it would be in verse 30, but no, this ghost is not included in the ONE.

The word “Spirit”, in the Greek –Pneuma #4151
Lexical Summary
pneuma: Spirit, wind, breath
bNASB: Spirit, spirits, breath, spiritual, wind, winds

Word Origin: [from G4154 (πνέω - blew)] ?? blew ???

Again, there is no indication the spirit of the Father is a “God being”.
To make matters worse,

Ephesians 1
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
2 Grace [be] to you, and peace, from God our Father, and [from] the Lord Jesus Christ.

In all Paul’s letters his greetings NEVER include this ghost. What a slight that is for this ghost.

God IS A SPIRIT!

John 4
24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

So, Is Christ saying God is a ghost? The word spirit is #4151, the same word translated as ghost.
Sorry I find no holy ghost in any of the Word.

 

[GWH]

Receiving the Holy Ghost is a part of being reborn.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
After we have it we have JESUS guiding us.
Acts 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: Examples of JESUS coming inside of us.

Acts 2, 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Acts 10, 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
It is a promise FOR ALL.
Acts 2:38-39 King James Version 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Don't leave earth without it.

Yes, receiving the HS occurs at the moment of being reborn and is the means of being spiritually born (Rom. 5:5, 8:9).
The evidence of having received the HS is profession of faith in Jesus as Messiah/Son of God (1John 4:2-3) and love (1John 4:7-5:5).

 

[Ouch]

Yes, receiving the HS occurs at the moment of being reborn and is the means of being spiritually born (Rom. 5:5, 8:9).
The evidence of having received the HS is profession of faith in Jesus as Messiah/Son of God (1John 4:2-3) and love (1John 4:7-5:5).

What do you think of the verses I shared and what happened with them when they received the Holy Ghost?

 

[GWH]

John 8
19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Should they not also know the ghost?
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Well, for sure this ghost did not send Christ.
John 12 .49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
This ghost had no part in telling Christ what He should speak.
John 10 29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand.
So, is the ghost greater or lesser than Christ?
30 I and [my] Father are One.
Has anyone noticed the trend; this “ghost” is never included by Christ,
And to make it clear, Jesus Christ states: I and [my] Father are “One.”
If there was ever a time to confirm the existence of a third, it would be in verse 30, but no, this ghost is not included in the ONE.
The word “Spirit”, in the Greek –Pneuma #4151
Lexical Summary
pneuma: Spirit, wind, breath
bNASB: Spirit, spirits, breath, spiritual, wind, winds
Word Origin: [from G4154 (πνέω - blew)] ?? blew ???
Again, there is no indication the spirit of the Father is a “God being”....

The word spirit is #4151, the same word translated as ghost.
Sorry I find no holy ghost in any of the Word.

Let us begin by updating the term "ghost" to "Spirit". Mention of God's Holy Spirit is so prevalent in the NT that I suspect you are trolling, but I will reply anyway.

The HS was first mentioned in connection with the birth of Jesus in Luke 1:35 & 67 and Luke 2:25-26. The next mention is by John the Baptist in Luke 3:16 & 22 and the other synoptic Gospels. The HS filled Jesus during the three temptations in Luke 4:1 & 14 and the corresponding verses in the synoptics. Jesus said the HS would indwell his disciples in John 14:17, 15:26 & 16:12-13, and He signified this after His resurrection in John 20:22 by breathing on them.

I won't bother continuing by sharing the HS per Paul's epistles until I see how you are receiving the HS in the Gospels.

 

[studier]

The main purpose of this thread is to discuss Scriptures explaining how humanity can experience and fellowship with the Holy Spirit of God/Christ,
which correlates with learning God’s Holy Word. Achieving this goal requires systematic study of New Testament doctrines including spiritual dynamics, prayer and sanctification.

ESV Proverbs 1:23 If you turn at my reproof, behold, I will pour out my spirit to you; I will make my words known to you.

Parallelism.