Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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But that's not what happens in salvation.

When it is salvation, you recognize that it is Him.

Before salvation? You just go with the flow of your thought process, never knowing where a notion came from, assuming it is your own thought.
 
It says because of the god of this world so Jesus can make sure they find it and why Paul uses IF.
It says the gospel is hidden to them that are lost.. It takes Jesus to save one from a lost condition in order to believe. IF Jesus doesnt save us first, we cant believe.
 
When it is salvation, you recognize that it is Him.

Before salvation? You just go with the flow of your thought process, never knowing where a notion came from, assuming it is your own thought.
Or it could just be your own thoughts.
 
For Salvation, Its Gods saving power in action

God's grace power is getting all the negative influence of your flesh silenced over its natural state of enslaving your soul.
It is with our heart (soul) that we believe.
God's grace makes that possible.

That is why we must be saved by grace.
 
God's grace power is getting all the negative influence of your flesh silenced over its natural state of enslaving your soul.
It is with our heart (soul) that we believe.
God's grace makes that possible.

That is why we must be saved by grace.
Salvation Grace saves.
 
But at the same time, can the evil one do anything in this world apart from God signing off on it?
Those people unlike Job do not have a Hedge of Protection around them so they're most likely fair game.
 
It says the gospel is hidden to them that are lost.. It takes Jesus to save one from a lost condition in order to believe. IF Jesus doesnt save us first, we cant believe.
Since Jesus isn't hiding the Gospel from them then they are able to be saved.
 
Make you believe?

Evidently you know how it works. Right?

So tell me. How does God "make" someone to believe?

If you can not define it?
Then you leave it open to subjective interpretation.

So how do we know what we are even disagreeing about?

Now define it.
How does God make one to believe?


Just do not throw out verses and not explain them.
Does He force something in a person to change?

One more time?

Does He force something in a person to change to make one believe?

If you can not answer it plainly?

Please... Get off your high horse and be quiet until you can.
So far... You have no answer. Only dogmatic zeal.


Muslims have dogmatic zeal.

By the Greatest Force for Good in the Universe: Agape Love. Agape Love against which there is no Law because of the nature of that Love.
 
Those people unlike Job do not have a Hedge of Protection around them so they're most likely fair game.

Now...answer my question instead of deflecting: Can the devil do anything in this world apart from God's will? Or is the devil a co-ruler with Almighty God?
 
Nah, it works on Amps and easy to reduce.
naw you have to determine the voltage by dividing the wattage and and the amps,

In your case your only a 5 watt light bulb running at 2 amps, you only have 2.5 volts running your brain lol, you work it out Using the
Using the v=p|I formula
V=p/Icap V equals cap p /cap

Voltage = Power/ Current)

V = 5 watts/2 Amps

V = 2.5 volts for your tiny pea brain 🥳🤩.


Joke everyone has a pea Brain did you know ?
 
Salvation Grace saves.

Did I say something different?
Please clarify...

Ephesians 2:8-9​
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves,
it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.

Saved "through" faith.
Not just simply grace alone.
Something has to come out of it...

Not by works. (Plurality of human deeds with the intent of winning God's approval)

But, by one work alone. The one work that God requires for His approval.

John 6:28-29​

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
Disciples usually followed rabbis to find out what works they should do to gain eternal life.
That is why Jews approached him to ask what works they should do.
His disciples were asking Jesus for his list of works.

He only gave them One.

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
grace and peace .......
 
Genez said:


So tell me. How does God "make" someone to believe?
Does He force something in a person to change to make one believe?

By shedding his agape love abroad in his people's hearts? What a novel idea, heh?
 
By the Greatest Force for Good in the Universe: Agape Love. Agape Love against which there is no Law because of the nature of that Love.
Sounds nice...

The greatest force for good is God's Justice.
God's justice even determines where His love will present itself.