Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Then how did any of you hear it?
this was sarcastic, I posted understanding on how a person hears the word of God yesterday, the word of God burns in there hearts.

Ill post it again, but what good it will do for These sarcastic free willers I honestly don't know any more

Jeremiah 20

Sometimes I think, “I won’t talk about his message anymore.
I’ll never speak in his name again.”
But then your message burns in my heart.
It’s like a fire deep inside my bones.

Luke 24

They asked each other, ‘Were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?’

Hebrew 4

For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.


So his word burns in the heart and no one is without excuse, God is everywhere and is invisible to you, whilst he's burning unbelievers hearts, making them believe, or his word falls on deaths ears like the 3000 posts I've made to this thread to the sarcastic free willers worshiping themselves and projecting there false idols every single day.
 
What i dont understand is the super deterministic group says they are predestined or chosen. They dont even have to repent. It wouldn't matter even if they did. They just go to heaven no matter what. Man has no responsibility in the salvation process.

Correct.

Random people are just acted upon by God, completely placid and without any realization, essentially the brain dead, God hating person is activated and then made able to believe.

Their entire mantra is>>>>>>>> unless a person is completely placid they are saving themselves. :rolleyes:

It is hard to believe any one can believe this nonsense.
 
Say what? Repenting isint neccessary to be saved???

There is nothing that we can do nor are we permitted to do to become saved. That is why Christ has the title of Savior - because He already achieved all that was required on our behalf. Any attempt by us to contribute to it means we are not under His grace
 
There is nothing that we can do nor are we permitted to do to become saved. That is why Christ has the title of Savior - because He already achieved all that was required on our behalf. Any attempt by us to contribute to it means we are not under His grace

Christ is savior because he died on the cross so whosoever calls on his name can be saved. He gave us a way back to God that would of been impossible without his sacrifice.

Grace an unmerited gift.
For God so loved the world he GAVE his only begotten son.

The grace which was that gift is what allows whosoever to be saved.
 
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Upon salvation, God changes the heart and mind of those He saves and He places His divine laws into their mind.

[Heb 8:10 KJV] 10 For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
 
What i dont understand is the super deterministic group says they are predestined or chosen. They dont even have to repent. It wouldn't matter even if they did. They just go to heaven no matter what. Man has no responsibility in the salvation process.
Where has this been put forward?
 
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
it's a proverb, and your just using it to evangelise free will, Jesus said the water I will give you will make your heart well up to a human not to a horse.


The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing.
2 He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,
3 he refreshes my soul.
He guides me along the right paths
for his name’s sake.
 
Ack, well, you quote/mention two people I have on ignore for repeated
malfeasance so I have not been following that line of convo.

My apologies! But it comes as no surprise that they continue in their errant ways.