The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[lrs68]

My question remains. What are Jesus's commandments?

There's a list besides to love God with all that you are and to love your neighbors as yourself there's the Great Commission to make Disciples and Baptize them. There's many more listed throughout the Gospels.

Seriously, to even ask this question is head scratching.

 

[GWH]

Firstly the 10 commandments were not changed or removed anywhere in the bible... it is human presumption to say they are not valid or to change them.. God spoke them Himself so it would not be a simple thing to remove them..

Secondly the sabbath was mentioned many times in the New Testament..

Jesus said
Mar 2:27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

That does not sound like something you would say if you knew it was about to be nailed to the cross.

Mat 12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

This next verse is clearly applied to the last days. If Jesus knew that the sabbath laws were about to be removed. Why did He say ...
Mat 24:20-22 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Pray that your flight be not on the sabbath... this proves that the sabbath would still be valid at the end.

Mentioned, not commanded. as the moral commandments were.

 

[TMS]

Mentioned, not commanded. as the moral commandments were.

But mentioned in the verses revealed show that it's authority has not changed.
Mentioned it such a way to reveal that it is still a commandment.

 

[TMS]

According to many Christian theologians, creeds and dogmas, you do not have to commit a single sin to be guilty hell. When you were conceived, you are consigned to hell. No conscious sin required.

I disagree with calvanistic teachings
I believe all have sinned = death

But we are not guilty of sin until we choose to sin.
To be tempted is not a sin...
To have a sinful nature is not a sin...

Sin is the choice we make to do evil.

This is another subject.. which people are very divided about....

 

[GWH]

But mentioned in the verses revealed show that it's authority has not changed.
Mentioned it such a way to reveal that it is still a commandment.

Not at all.

 

[TMS]

Not at all.

The sabbath is mentioned in the following verses
In the context

Show me how this does not prove that the sabbath will be a commandment in the last days.

Mat 24:19-22
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Jesus said to pray that your flight be not on the sabbath day.
It must be important for us to pray about.

 

[pinebeach]

what about this commandment? in genesis God asked adam end eve not to eat the fruit of the tree... this is what i was refering to...lol

look no need for us to continue since you do not Believe jesus when he said "if you Love me keep my commandments" so this is my last answer to you. I have wasted too much time with you already. and Yes the covenant ols and New are the ten commandments, if you read your bible you would know all this.

Oh my. Looks like you had a temper tantrum. All those x's but I think you missed a few posts.

who gave you the authority to cancel out what Jesus said and insert your own false beliefs about the commandments being the covenant rather than what Jesus says here:

27Then He took the cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in My Father’s kingdom.” Matthew 26

You seem to like to quote Jesus when He is speaking about the law given before His crucifixion, but you never and have never, acknowledged what he says to His disciples just before His death. Why is that?

 

[pinebeach]

You contradict the words of God, not me. God Himself said the Ten Commandments are the covenant. This is written plainly in the Old Testament, and no one can erase His voice.

So who is Jesus to you since you say you are not a Christian? What is your religion called?

Why didn't God punish Moses when he broke the first set of the 10 commandments written on stone by God Himiself? Yet He punished Moses when Moses struck the rock twice for water.

The commandments were always going to be broken but the living water of the Holy Spirit through Christ is not a part of the commandments. Believers are not under OT law. We are under a new covenant, that Jesus secured through His blood.

You can post the entire Old Testament, but just one verse in the New Testament, tells us you are completely wrong. The words of Jesus Himself tell you that you are wrong.

 

[pinebeach]

The sabbath is mentioned in the following verses
In the context

Show me how this does not prove that the sabbath will be a commandment in the last days.

Mat 24:19-22
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Jesus said to pray that your flight be not on the sabbath day.
It must be important for us to pray about.

You have only one thing to believe in. You must believe that Jesus died for you and when you acknowledge Him as your Savior you will receive the Holy Spirit. That is the gospel; that is salvation.

The Saturday worship belief is not biblical. The law was not given to those who accept Christ. If a Jew accepts Christ, their standing is the same as any other true believer. No. Your quote does not prove a thing about the 'Sabbath'. There is no context regarding the New Covenant through the blood of Jesus.

 

[pinebeach]

I disagree with calvanistic teachings
I believe all have sinned = death

But we are not guilty of sin until we choose to sin.
To be tempted is not a sin...
To have a sinful nature is not a sin...

Sin is the choice we make to do evil.

This is another subject.. which people are very divided about....

You cannot make up things and then say it's from the Bible which is what you have going on here.

19Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20Therefore no one will be justified in His sight by works of the law. For the law merely brings awareness of sin.

This is not hard to understand. No one is justified in God's sight by the works of the law. The law is what brings your sin to your awareness.

So what is the answer then?

21But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets. 22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.

25God presented Him as an atoning sacrificei in His blood through faith, in order to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had passed over the sins committed beforehand. 26He did this to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and to justify the one who has faith in Jesus.


There it is! The law condemns you; it does not save you and God does not count your efforts at trying to be 'good' as any part of salvation.

V 25 What does it say? Does it commend you and your efforts or does God say Jesus is the sacrifice for our atonement?

 

[pinebeach]

But we are not guilty of sin until we choose to sin.

Do you now believe you are sinless?

 

[pinebeach]

But mentioned in the verses revealed show that it's authority has not changed.
Mentioned it such a way to reveal that it is still a commandment.

The law does not have authority over those in Christ. Do not take the opportunity now and say that means I think I can sin because no one has said that.

If you believe you can now obey the commandments, then you are in contradiction to scripture. The commandments are not for you to obey because you cannot. The Bible states that if you break any part of them you are guilty of ALL of them. This is serious. You have said things about me in some of your posts that are not true such as I believe I am free to sin. That is bearing false witness. I'm not judging you. You judge yourself when you do the things you say we must not do.

So, we are right back to Jesus. His blood is the Covenant we now have. The op is a lie; the commandments are not the covenant.

 

[pinebeach]

26While they were eating, Jesus took bread, spoke a blessing and broke it, and gave it to the disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is My body.”

27Then He took the cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

30And when they had sung a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives. Matt. 26:30

15 For this reason
11 But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that are now already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made with human hands, that is to say, is not a part of this creation. 12 He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption. 13 The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that they are outwardly clean. 14 How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. Hebrews 90

 

[pinebeach]

People love the lies of Satan that disregard the Laws

Those without Christ. If you are a believer, you have new life in Christ and you do not love the lies of the devil.

 

[Inquisitor]

I see it all as LOVE.

GOD IS LOVE. The character of God is seen in the life of Jesus.

We need to reflect the Love of God and we can't do it without God in us..

We should be aiming to be like Jesus... which includes all the principles of love.

Your dead wrong on this one.

John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love
one another. By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.

That is divine love, absolute and unconditional love.

To love others as you love yourself is a weak and very conditional form of love.

If you cannot see the vast difference between the Lord's love and man's love.

I am baffled to how you cannot see the difference?

 

[TMS]

Do you now believe you are sinless?

We are all guilty of sin.. no one can say they have no sin.

We have all fallen short... that's why we need a saviour. That's why Jesus died for each person.

My carnal nature can not do anything good.. I'm sinful to the core... but by grace through faith in Jesus I can crucify self.
I have a choice to walk after the flesh or walk after the Spirit.

Gal 5:16-18
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Rom 8:4-14
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. 12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Our flesh needs to be crucified and we need to walk in the Spirit.

 

[TMS]

Your dead wrong on this one.

John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love
one another. By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.

That is divine love, absolute and unconditional love.

To love others as you love yourself is a weak and very conditional form of love.

If you cannot see the vast difference between the Lord's love and man's love.

I am baffled to how you cannot see the difference?

You can't love without God...
All good comes from God.
All love comes from God
If we are close to God and reflect His love we are loving each other with Godly love.

If everyone was focused on God and having a close relationship with Him then we would have a very loving world.

We can't love without God in us.

 

[TMS]

26While they were eating, Jesus took bread, spoke a blessing and broke it, and gave it to the disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is My body.”

27Then He took the cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

30And when they had sung a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives. Matt. 26:30

15 For this reason
11 But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that are now already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made with human hands, that is to say, is not a part of this creation. 12 He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption. 13 The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that they are outwardly clean. 14 How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. Hebrews 90

When did the priest enter the most Holy place? What was in the most Holy place of the sanctuary?

Why did the high priest enter?

You may need to study the OT to understand this event.

 

[GWH]

The sabbath is mentioned in the following verses
In the context

Show me how this does not prove that the sabbath will be a commandment in the last days.

Mat 24:19-22
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Jesus said to pray that your flight be not on the sabbath day.
It must be important for us to pray about.

So must winter per your illogic.

 

[TMS]

So must winter per your illogic.

How is it illogical?