The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[studier]

The law of love.
The law of liberty.
The Royal law.

The one Jesus was referring to, the one Paul was referring to, and James was referring to.

The 2 laws .... love God with all your heart and neighbour your neighbour as yourself, are what the 10 Commandments hang on. The first 4 are about loving God, and the next 6 are about loving your neighbour.

I assume you're using a coined phrase or coining a phrase in saying "The law of love" and you're mainly referring to Paul's teaching in Rom13?

You see "The law of liberty" and "The Royal law" as the same thing?

You see "2 laws" rather than 2 greatest commandments?

You see the love neighbor as self command as just referring to the last 6 of the 10 "words"?

Jesus expanded on the 10 commandments and said... Mat 5:27-28 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Jesus expanded or Jesus rewrote?

Jesus said in Mat 19:17-19
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Jesus said to keep the 10 commandments

Do you count 10 in Jesus' instruction?

Remember that when the new Testament was written there were only 2 major laws

The cerimonial laws written on scrolls and placed on the side of the ark, and the 10 commandments written on stone inside the ark.

2 major laws or 1 unified law?

If you'd like to begin slowly, which I'd prefer, let's start with James.

 

[Doll]

Unfortunately some do reject the ten commandments they think it was done away with and replaced with something else but They never can explain with what.

Imagine saying,you shall not murder,no longer applies.


Jesus said, not one not not tittle shall be removed from his law till allis fulfilled.
All is not yet fulfilled. He accomplished his gospel covenant ,finished doing that,but there is more to be done.

 

[GWH]

Unfortunately some do reject the ten commandments they think it was done away with and replaced with something else but They never can explain with what.

And fortunately at least one has explained that the Sabbath law was not recommanded in the NT because it had fulfilled its purpose
of separating the Jews from the Gentiles until the advent of Messiah, at which time it was replaced with Messiah's command to love
one another.

 

[vassal]

And fortunately at least one has explained that the Sabbath law was not recommanded in the NT because it had fulfilled its purpose
of separating the Jews from the Gentiles until the advent of Messiah, at which time it was replaced with Messiah's command to love
one another.

completely wrong, please revise your position. so far it denies the Covenant, you cannot pick and choose, one of the reason God put the sabbath is to see who will obey him. do not miss out on this one it also comes with a blessing. But God did say he put this choice before us to obey his commandments or not, Please choose Life.

The sabbath is not hard to follow rather simple really. Why Oppose it.

 

[GWH]

completely wrong, please revise your position. so far it denies the Covenant, you cannot pick and choose, one of the reason God put the sabbath is to see who will obey him. do not miss out on this one it also comes with a blessing. But God did say he put this choice before us to obey his commandments or not, Please choose Life.

The sabbath is not hard to follow rather simple really. Why Oppose it.

I choose life, and I am thankful the Sabbath Law is no longer enforced, because I would have been executed by now.

 

[Inquisitor]

Unfortunately some do reject the ten commandments they think it was done away with and replaced with something else but They never can explain with what.

The law was replaced with grace and divine love.

The law was fulfilled by Jesus Christ and all the glory belongs to Him alone.

 

[Doll]

The law was replaced with grace and divine love.

The law was fulfilled by Jesus Christ and all the glory belongs to Him alone.

It was never replaced.
The Ten Commandments are a moral decalogue. Teaching how to live God ,self,and others.

 

[TMS]

This is baloney. Now it sounds like you are talking about sinlessness and there is no such animal. Maybe your flesh longs to sin and feed itself, but mine does not. If you are actually a believer and have the Holy Spirit within, your desires change, your whole life changes and you do no dwell on sin. You dwell on God and no longer follow all the old ways you once did.

We do change by God's grace

1Jn 1:8-9
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

I'm not claiming that I'm sinless
I'm claiming that God can save us to the uttermost.
That requires faith.. do you have faith

Heb 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

2Ti 2:19 The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

The best way to illustrate my point is ...

Peter in the bible.
He wanted to walk on the water.

Jesus said come... Peter did the impossible and walked on the water but when he doubted he sank.

We can do the impossible and overcome sin. God wants us to, and Jesus tells us to. So we need to have faith in God and we can do the impossible.. have you got the faith to do this.

Mat 14:31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

 

[TMS]

Ever hear of new life in Christ? Are you not aware that God does not see us as we currently are, but sees us as made perfect in the righteousness of His Son?

Why do we need sanctification then?
Why does the bible talk about the battle between the flesh and the Spirit?

Justification is a wonderful gift. It will cover our filthy rags. But do you believe we should continue to sin.. the Bible states that we need to die daily.. not just once but it is a continual process of denying self.

1Co 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.... This highlights the moment of realization and surrender to God's standard.

Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Denying self, dieing to self and giving up sin is a continual process.. if you think you don't need to carry the cross then I feel sorry for you.

 

[TMS]

Jesus, NOT YOU OR ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING, has kept all the law and by doing so, fullfilled the righteousness of God. You cannot do so, whether or not you have accepted Christ.

Only Jesus has ... I agree. He alone has kept the law perfectly.

What does it mean for God to write the law on our heart?

We can continue to serve sin or we can obey the Lord.. our choice.

Rom 6:11-13
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

Let not sin reign in your mortal bodies.

We can't fulfill the perfect requirements of the law, we have all sinned...
BUT .. Rom 6:1-2
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Rom 6:15-16
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

 

[TMS]

I guarantee that you are not sinless and somehow 'worthy' of salvation. The entire point, THE ENTIRE POINT, is that we were never 'worthy' and we will never be 'worthy

Sorry I disagree..
I am worthy of Salvation
I am worthy because Jesus gave His blood to make me worthy.. by His death and His righteousness I am worthy.

My righteousness is as filthy rags..
But my focus is on Jesus the source of life and righteousness. While I focus on Jesus and not allow my self to live, then Jesus will reign, not me. Righteousness will reign not sin.

No glory to me ... all good comes from God, I can do nothing without Christ.

I am not sinless, true, but that does not change what the Bible states clearly

We can live free from iniquity, we can walk sinlessly when Jesus lives in us and when self is dead.

We can live a sinless life.... regardless of our past sins. We can walk with Jesus from today. Today we can allow the Spirit to control us 100%

Or do you believe that God gave us all so that we can only have partial victory.

Sanctification is part of the gift that Jesus desires us to accept by faith.

 

[vassal]

I choose life, and I am thankful the Sabbath Law is no longer enforced, because I would have been executed by now.

You choose willingly to disobey, that is not good, Who has convinced you the commandments ( the covanant) are no longer applicable? Paul did say the commandments are just and Good, He himself followed them including the sabbath. So who was it?

About the sabbath it is simple really just follow what Isaiah said and not the Jews who follow it the wrong way because they added to rules to it that made it a burden.

Isa 58:13 If you turn your foot from breaking the Sabbath, from doing as you please on My holy day, if you call the Sabbath a delight, and the LORD’s holy day honorable, if you honor it by not going your own way or seeking your own pleasure or speaking idle words,
Isa 58:14 then you will delight yourself in the LORD, and I will make you ride on the heights of the land and feed you with the heritage of your father Jacob.” For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.

 

[vassal]

The law was replaced with grace and divine love.

The law was fulfilled by Jesus Christ and all the glory belongs to Him alone.

No Inquisitor, the ten commandments are eternal and never replaced. they point to sin, if we do not have them how can we not sin against God if we do not Know what sin is? it is their use,

the 2 great commandments that are a summary of the ten commandments, they explain they are all from God who Loves us and we should do the same because He loved us first
"We love Him because He first loved us."
1 John 4:19
This shows that our love for God begins with His love toward us.

Why the Commandments? are we not God's children? made in God's Image are we not to be Holy as he is Holy? WIll you reject this Grace and this Love God has for us?

 

[GWH]

You choose willingly to disobey, that is not good, Who has convinced you the commandments ( the covanant) are no longer applicable? Paul did say the commandments are just and Good, He himself followed them including the sabbath. So who was it?

About the sabbath it is simple really just follow what Isaiah said and not the Jews who follow it the wrong way because they added to rules to it that made it a burden.

Isa 58:13 If you turn your foot from breaking the Sabbath, from doing as you please on My holy day, if you call the Sabbath a delight, and the LORD’s holy day honorable, if you honor it by not going your own way or seeking your own pleasure or speaking idle words,
Isa 58:14 then you will delight yourself in the LORD, and I will make you ride on the heights of the land and feed you with the heritage of your father Jacob.” For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.

Please get off your high horse and focus on what I said, vassal, which was that the Sabbath Law requiring execution of breakers including Jesus' disciples was NOT part of the moral commandments recommanded in the NT but rather it was part of the OC laws that temporarily separated the Jews from the Gentiles until fulfilled by Jesus, who replaced them with His eternal moral command to love everyone. Cf. #161 & 168

"The former regulation [Levitical law per Heb. 7:11] is set aside...
and Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant." (Heb. 7:18a & 22b).

 

[memberofthebride]

yes valid if Both party agree. it is a 2 sided covenant and valid for those who love Jesus and Keep the commandments like He asled us to do.

Please get off your high horse and focus on what I said, vassal, which was that the Sabbath Law requiring execution of breakers including Jesus' disciples was NOT part of the moral commandments recommanded in the NT but rather it was part of the OC laws that temporarily separated the Jews from the Gentiles until fulfilled by Jesus, who replaced them with His eternal moral command to love everyone. Cf. #161 & 168

"The former regulation [Levitical law per Heb. 7:11] is set aside...
and Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant." (Heb. 7:18a & 22b).

Vassal and GWH

Followers of Christ are to DO "every WORD" from the mouth of GOD! Not some, not those they like.

1 John 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin,, transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

The only Law John can be referring to is Torah law, remember Christ stated in Matthew 5 He came NOT to destroy the Law.

By the sacrifice of animals no one can be saved, only by the shed blood of Christ.

What has been done away is the Sacrificial law that was added because of sin. and the sacrificial pointed to the ONE sacrifice of Christ.

Christ, before He died said in John 14: 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. and the only Commandments HE kept and HE taught are the Ten.

I have found not one scripture removing the seventh day from being HOLY, I do rest on the 7th Day.

I disagree, Levitical Law, the Torah was never set aside, When Christ returns as KING of Kings, HE will rule using Torah Law,

Torah law reveals to mankind the Divine Nature and Mind of God.

Micah 4

1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain (government) of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

The only law in Micah's day is Torah. and look it up in Strong's that word is Torah.

also in Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law (#8451) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

The word "law" is Torah. the New Covenant Law remains Torah Law. #8451

 

[vassal]

Please get off your high horse and focus on what I said, vassal, which was that the Sabbath Law requiring execution of breakers including Jesus' disciples was NOT part of the moral commandments recommanded in the NT but rather it was part of the OC laws that temporarily separated the Jews from the Gentiles until fulfilled by Jesus, who replaced them with His eternal moral command to love everyone. Cf. #161 & 168

"The former regulation [Levitical law per Heb. 7:11] is set aside...
and Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant." (Heb. 7:18a & 22b).

GWH, please do veruty the following that I write below it is the truth and you must see it as it really is
the ten commandments also called by GOD the Covenant is NOT a Part of the Levetical system not at all!

This is what Paul says some parts of the LAW OF MOSES cannot be applied today such as secrifices ect.... it had NOTHING t o do with the Ten Commandments.

what you do from now is on you! Choose life and Obey God, who only wants what is best for all of us. I have told you the truth and it is easy to verify.
From now on, you are on your own. I leave you this day as a witness against you.

“And whoever will not receive you nor hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them.” Mark 6:11

 

[vassal]

Vassal and GWH

Followers of Christ are to DO "every WORD" from the mouth of GOD! Not some, not those they like.

1 John 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin,, transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

The only Law John can be referring to is Torah law, remember Christ stated in Matthew 5 He came NOT to destroy the Law.

By the sacrifice of animals no one can be saved, only by the shed blood of Christ.

What has been done away is the Sacrificial law that was added because of sin. and the sacrificial pointed to the ONE sacrifice of Christ.

Christ, before He died said in John 14: 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. and the only Commandments HE kept and HE taught are the Ten.

I have found not one scripture removing the seventh day from being HOLY, I do rest on the 7th Day.

I disagree, Levitical Law, the Torah was never set aside, When Christ returns as KING of Kings, HE will rule using Torah Law,

Torah law reveals to mankind the Divine Nature and Mind of God.

Micah 4

1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain (government) of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

The only law in Micah's day is Torah. and look it up in Strong's that word is Torah.

also in Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law (#8451) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

The word "law" is Torah. the New Covenant Law remains Torah Law. #8451

Jesus taught that His people must hear and keep every word from God. In Matthew 4:4 He said, “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.” John also said, “Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness” 1 John 3:4. The only law John knew is the law God gave from the beginning, the same law Jesus kept and taught. Jesus said, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill” Matthew 5:17. Fulfilling means completing the purpose, not removing it. Jesus kept the commandments perfectly, and He told His followers, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” John 14:15. The commandments He kept and taught are the same Ten that came from the mouth of God. Jesus never removed the seventh day as holy, and no verse from Him or His disciples removes it. Jesus Himself kept it, and His disciples kept it after He returned to the Father.

The sacrificial laws were given because of sin, and the animals pointed to the coming sacrifice of Jesus, the Lamb of God. When He died, the veil of the temple tore in two, showing that the animal sacrifices had reached their end. But the commandments that point to sin, to love, to righteousness, were never removed. Jesus told the man who asked about eternal life, “If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments” Matthew 19:17.

The Jerusalem council in Acts 15 did not remove the commandments of God. They dealt with one problem: some men were demanding that Gentiles be circumcised and keep the whole system of added laws before they could even be accepted. The apostles did not place that burden on them. They gave a few first rules to help new Gentile believers turn away from idols and from the worst sins of their old life. But after this, the apostles continued to teach the same commandments Jesus taught. Jesus had already told them to teach the nations “to observe all things that I have commanded you” Matthew 28:20. The council never changed this. They did not cancel the commandments. They simply removed heavy demands that came from men, not from Jesus.

The prophets said that when God restores His kingdom, His law will go out again. Micah wrote, “He will teach us His ways, and we shall walk in His paths. For out of Zion the law shall go forth, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem” Micah 4:2. In Micah’s time, the law was the Torah, the teaching of God. Jeremiah spoke of the new covenant and said, “I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts” Jeremiah 31:33. The same word for law there is Torah. God did not replace His law. Instead He wants it written inside His people.

So the Scripture shows that sin is still breaking God’s law, the commandments remain the standard Jesus taught, the Jerusalem council did not remove them, and in the last days God’s law will go out again from Zion. Jesus said His words will judge us, and His words keep pointing us back to loving God and keeping His commandments. Yes One day. the commandments and any law God wants us to follow will be placed in our hearts and no man will have to teach his neighbour anymore but this day has not yet come, Many still refuse the words of God, the ten Commandments, The Covenant. this is what I fight for at this time to teach the Covenant, the ten commandments to help Grow the Kingdom of Heaven.

Blessings

 

[GWH]

Vassal and GWH

Followers of Christ are to DO "every WORD" from the mouth of GOD! Not some, not those they like.
1 John 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin,, transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
The only Law John can be referring to is Torah law, remember Christ stated in Matthew 5 He came NOT to destroy the Law.
By the sacrifice of animals no one can be saved, only by the shed blood of Christ.
What has been done away is the Sacrificial law that was added because of sin. and the sacrificial pointed to the ONE sacrifice of Christ.
Christ, before He died said in John 14: 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. and the only Commandments HE kept and HE taught are the Ten.
I have found not one scripture removing the seventh day from being HOLY, I do rest on the 7th Day.
I disagree, Levitical Law, the Torah was never set aside, When Christ returns as KING of Kings, HE will rule using Torah Law,
Torah law reveals to mankind the Divine Nature and Mind of God.
Micah 4
1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain (government) of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
The only law in Micah's day is Torah. and look it up in Strong's that word is Torah.
also in Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law (#8451) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
The word "law" is Torah. the New Covenant Law remains Torah Law. #8451

I appreciate your comments, and I agree that Christians seek to DO what they BELIEVE is GW.
1John 3:4 and John 14:15 should be understood in context with 1John 4:1-21 & John 13:34-35,
which make it obvious that the laws/commands John had in mind are NOT the Torah but rather NT/HS Love.

OT Scriptures such as Micah 4:1-2 and Jeremiah 31:33 also must be interpreted/updated in light of the NT,
which clearly teaches in Hebrews 7:11-10:1 that Levitical law has been superseded by the Gospel/NC. The crux
of that passage is Heb. 8:13, "By calling this covenant "new" , he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete
and aging will soon disappear." What is put in the hearts of Christians is the loving HS per Romans 5:5. I encourage you
to read the entire NT with open minds/hearts and amend your beliefs rather than kick against its goads.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

When Jesus said that “the law and the prophets were until John” in Luke 16:16, He did not mean that God’s commands ended. He meant that from John and onward the message became open to all people in a new and greater way, because the King Himself had arrived to bring God’s kingdom near. This is why Jesus went everywhere preaching the gospel of the kingdom, calling all to repent and believe, just as you quoted in Mark 1:14–15 and Matthew 4:23. He showed the kingdom in His teaching, His mercy, and His healing. Later He said this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world before the end comes, as in Matthew 24:14. After His resurrection He sent the twelve to continue the same message to every nation when He said, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature” in Mark 16:15–16.

All these verses show one simple truth: Jesus preached one gospel, the gospel of the kingdom. It is the same gospel He taught from the beginning. It is the same gospel He lived, fulfilled, and confirmed by His death and resurrection. It is the same gospel He told the apostles to carry to every nation. It is the same gospel that calls every person to repent, believe, obey His words, and enter God’s kingdom with a new heart through the Holy Spirit whom He promised and sent.

When the apostles continued this work, they did not create new messages. They taught what Jesus taught. They called people to repent, to turn from sin, to walk in righteousness, and to live by the words of Christ. Everything they preached was meant to lead people into the kingdom that Jesus opened. Any talk about “another gospel” must therefore be understood by Jesus’ own standard: there is only one gospel, the gospel of the kingdom that He Himself preached from the start.
So when we speak about “the gospel of the kingdom,” “the gospel of Jesus Christ,” “the gospel of the grace of God,” or any other phrase, these are not different messages. They point to the same thing: the full truth about Jesus, His teaching, His sacrifice, His resurrection, His promise of the Spirit, and His call for us to follow Him. Anything that pulls people away from the clear words of Jesus, anything that replaces His teachings with another way, is not the gospel He preached.

Jesus warned us Himself that many will turn aside. He said people would not endure sound teaching, and they would follow their own desires. This is why we stay with Jesus’ words. His gospel is enough. His gospel is clear. His gospel leads us to life.

Blessings

“When Jesus said that “the law and the prophets were until John” in Luke 16:16, He did not mean that God’s commands ended. “

its a different testament by a different mediator made with a specific people . Jesus fuflilled the law and prophets . Again he didn’t destroy them as though they weren’t fukfilled , he brought them to completion and to a culmination.

What I mean is we can look to ten rocks telling us not to kill not to worship other gods not to commit adultery …….and try to know God and hear his word and belong to him that way through being told what not to do like this group

“knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane,

for murderers ( thou shalt not kill ) of fathers and murderers of mothers, ( honor your parents ) for manslayers, for whoremongers, ( thou shalt not commit adultery ) for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, ( thou shalt not lie ) for perjured persons, ( thou shalt not bear false witness ) and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

or we can repent and beiieve the gospel and follow Jesus and his word that’s made for the children of God who are meant to receive his spirit and follow after his word teaching them his word about how to actually live to please him

If we are struggling with killing and commiting adultery and bearing false witness or worshipping idols . I’d venture to guess we haven’t listened to the gospel be preached by the lord or heard the things he actually said when he came forth

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

To learn from Jesus and his word to believers in him is what we want to do the ten rocks and being told what not to do can’t save us . This doesn’t give us the right and permission to kill and lie and cheat of course

But Jesus teaches us how to walk upright and live other people which …..upholds the law by a single commandment “ love thy neighbor as thyself “

if you learn to love like Jesus taught you will never in your life ever need to be told “ don’t kill other people you murderer “ you won’t need to be told “ don’t commit adultery you adulterous man “ because Jesus teaches us what to do how to live in peace with other people teaches us to help and do and speak good . Even when insulted or offended ect

If we listen to Jesus we don’t need those laws for murderers and thieves and adulterers because we learn for instance “ when you start looking at another with lust in your mind and heart or hate or a grudge or greedily it’s then that we can avoid ever getting to the “ don’t kill this guy “ and “ don’t sleep with this woman “ regulations that were given to unholy people with corrupt minds and hearts

once Jesus arrives there’s sinply no need for ten rocks representing the lords word he came and spoke in the flesh and not through angels to Moses or from sinia as a trumpet and thunderstorm but as a humble man among us


We don’t follow rocks scribed with gods fingers but living words from his own mouth

 

[TMS]

And fortunately at least one has explained that the Sabbath law was not recommanded in the NT because it had fulfilled its purpose
of separating the Jews from the Gentiles until the advent of Messiah, at which time it was replaced with Messiah's command to love
one another.

There is no Bible verse to say the sabbath was done away with.. removed, stopped.

In Christ's day He said..... (knowing the the beginning from the end)....

Mat 24:20-25
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened... 25 Behold, I have told you before.... Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

The context is clearly talking about the second comming..

Why did Jesus say PRAY THAT YOUR FLIGHT BE NOT ON SABBATH if Jesus knew that the sabbath would be removed or made void?

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

And why did Jesus make these points if He knew it was about to end.

The old testament is full of verses that reveals that the 4th commandment was very important to God.. Nowhere in the new Testament does God say anything different.

History reveals why the change (not keeping the sabbath but sunday instead) happened and it was not from God.