Figure it out.
Kind regards,
Blue155
Edit: Anyone whose username is not Me_Clay
Simon says: sell me this power
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Simon says: sell me this power
John 3 verse 27~ “A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.” John 1 3 verses 12-13~ To all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God - children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God. John 6 3 verse 44~ “No man can come to me except the Father, which hath sent me, draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.” Romans 9 3 verse 16~ So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. Romans 8 3 verse 16~ The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
I believe the Scriptures. I believe Satan blinds people according to 2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV, and I believe 2 Timothy 2:26 KJV, which says, “And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.” These verses are true, and I accept them exactly as they are written.
If you want to ask me something specific about how these passages work within my belief or understanding of Scripture, feel free to ask. Just present the verse and then ask, “What do you think of this?” That is how a real Bible discussion works.
But when you insult me and refuse to stick with Scripture, it becomes difficult to continue the conversation. It also doesn’t help when the text is in purple font, because it’s hard to read. Once you stop hitting me with the verbal stick at every turn, I’ll be more than happy to have a normal, respectful Bible discussion. I only mention certain things you do that gets in the way of that like the strange pictures, etcetera. I see these as distractions.
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More of your hypocrisy. Since when is telling you the truth insulting you? You are a hypocrite.
You go on and on about things not Scripture.
I am simply asking that we stick with the Bible discussion in a kind and respectful way, without the hard-to-read purple fonts, the strange pictures, and the constant insults. Can we please talk about the Scriptures in a normal and polite manner?
Wanting a pure and respectful discussion is not hypocrisy.
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When are you going to stop taking about things not the Bible? Your double standard is revolting.
You are in denial. Typical. You want to talk about other things but claim I should not.
How does this help discussion? Guess what. It doesn't. So stop with your insults.
if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth
But you do not believe that the natural man will not come into the light, hates the light.
You think he has the ability to obey when Scripture says he does not.
Evidence of your hypocrisy. Don't demand something of me you refuse to do yourself.
I understand you are saying that I went off topic, and I want to be honest about it. I did briefly mention things that get in the way of having a normal Bible discussion, such as hard to read fonts, strange pictures, and constant insults. I also made one quick comment to another believer about food, and that was not directed toward you. Those were only small side chats, and they did not derail the real Bible discussion taking place here.
My goal has always been to keep the focus primarily on the Bible, even if there were a couple of brief side comments along the way. None of that changed the fact that Scripture has been my main focus in this conversation.
The Bible itself tells us how we should communicate. Colossians 4:6 says, “Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.” That is why I addressed the things that hinder a meaningful conversation.
Scripture also urges us to avoid unprofitable disputes. Titus 3:9 says, “But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law, for they are unprofitable and vain.” I am simply trying to keep us focused on what is spiritually profitable, which is the Word of God.
Proverbs 15:1 teaches, “A soft answer turneth away wrath, but grievous words stir up anger.” I am trying to follow that truth in the way I respond.
My goal has always been to keep the focus primarily on the Bible, even if there were a couple of quick side chats along the way. Those brief comments do not derail the real Bible discussion that is taking place here, nor do they change the fact that Scripture has been my main focus in this conversation. So, lets talk Bible. If not, may the Lord Jesus Christ bless you.
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Blue155
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Ok. I’ll tell him that you, Solitude, asked the wrong question. I’ll tell him I tried to tell you the right question, but you kept asking the wrong question. Ok?
Your phony smile is creepy.
LOL. You minimize your part and magnify the other. See the post above
yours. LOL @ Brief. You went on and on over a number of posts.
I probably did not even display them all...
But I cannot force you to be honest. That has to come from you. So far? No dice. <= that's a saying.
May the Lord Jesus Christ get all the glory for your false slander against a happy time with my family.
You said:
If you don't understand conversations can be fluid, then it is time to move on.
My primary goal is to talk about the Bible here. But to communicate in side chats is not a complete derailment from that goal. Conversations or words can be imperfect to communicate what we desire.
Yes, I did have a problem with others posting endlessly with no Bible verses in regard to this topic and all they did was heckle or punch random words in a keyboard with no context (where it led different people to ask what they were talking about). This is a far cry to a brief side chat or having a few posts desiring you to discuss on having a normal Bible discussion. The things I mentioned to you were things that got in the way of a normal Bible discussion. If a person complained to me that I was doing something that distracted them from a Bible discussion, I would try to change my tactics, and I would even apologize if I felt it was wrong.
But seeing you are lowering yourself to attack a pic of me in a family photo, the possibility of having a friendly and loving Bible discussion is not possible at this time with you.
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OLDBUTNEW
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It would help if you gave the actual words, rather than simply giving their biblical coordinates.
For example?
For you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you,
are you not carnal and behaving like mere men? 1 Corinthians 3:3
In essence. In their carnal state, they function just like the natural man. If it becomes habitual?
They can not receive Bible teaching other than the very basic doctrines they had already understood.
They can quote Scripture like any cult can.
They are stuck in growth.
Making them spiritually retarded.
Ever try reasoning with someone who is retarded?
It can be quite daunting.
What they believe, they believe.
And, you are the dumb one for thinking different.
Keep in mind...
God's approval in the evaluation will not be for all believers.
Only those who overcome. They, will be granted to reign with Him.
Non overcomers are saved, and will receive their resurrection body.
No rewards to share in the glory of God.
But, in time?
They are now proving themselves to be untrustworthy with their mishandling of the Word of God.
To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne,
just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne." Rev 3:21
Some come here to reveal that they have overcome the false teachings that others boast about, even cling to for dear life.
For now. Excuse me.
I have an errand to take care of.
Maybe Bluey is a licensed occult practitioner, which accounts for how he's so knowledgeable (supposedly) on such things.
But He's not revealing one's true desires according to Reformed/Calvin doctrine because you are totally depraved and could never love God of your own free will. He is only revealing His own desire and that is to save some and damn the rest.
One has to be free to reveal oneself and according to you and others here, He has to stop you being you by giving you a brand new nature otherwise you won't ever love Him freely.
Your love is contrived, not freely given.