Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Bible_Highlighter said:

While there could be more that I can recall, there are 21 things I have changed theologically on over the years. Some of these were doctrines, and some of them were my understanding of certain verses. So I am open to being corrected. If the Bible says it, then I accept what it says. But it naturally has to be in line with God’s love, logic, and goodness.

As for the reporting:

A person stealing photos of my family and posting them on the forum without my consent might warrant a report in my book.
However, while I find your pics spiritually disturbing, your pics are not offensive enough to warrant any kind of report.
It is the farthest thing from my mind. I am not even remotely tempted to do that.
There are levels of indecency, and I know it would do more harm than any kind of good.
I do strive to love and pray even for my enemies.
Why? Because Jesus told us to do that.

Are you referring to those carnal graphics with scriptures imprinted?




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Blue155 said:
Tell Magenta I ate some apple pie earlier, thought of her, and it was so good that it was “irresistible” 😉
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Apple pie is good. Especially when it is hot right out of the oven with a scoop of vanilla ice cream. But my all time favorite is hot peach pie and a scoop of vanilla ice cream. Granted, I am on Keto, and so that will have to wait for a long while (At least until I get down to my target weight).


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Bible_Highlighter said:
While there could be more that I can recall, there are 21 things I have changed theologically on over the years. Some of these were doctrines, and some of them were my understanding of certain verses. So I am open to being corrected. If the Bible says it, then I accept what it says. But it naturally has to be in line with God’s love, logic, and goodness.

As for the reporting:

A person stealing photos of my family and posting them on the forum without my consent might warrant a report in my book.
However, while I find your pics spiritually disturbing, your pics are not offensive enough to warrant any kind of report.
It is the farthest thing from my mind. I am not even remotely tempted to do that.
There are levels of indecency, and I know it would do more harm than any kind of good.
I do strive to love and pray even for my enemies.
Why? Because Jesus told us to do that.
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Well, you are a disturbed individual so being spiritually disturbed by colourful art that is
not offensive to anyone but those who want to pick at me for other reasons does not
surprise me any more than the the great lengths you went to trying to discredit it.
All while putting on your mister nice guy act.
 
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Bible_Highlighter said:
Apple pie is good. Especially when it is hot right out of the oven with a scoop of vanilla ice cream. But my all time favorite is hot peach pie and a scoop of vanilla ice cream. Granted, I am on Keto, and so that will have to wait for a long while (At least until I get down to my target weight).


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Bible_Highlighter said:
There is nothing improper about bashing the belief of Calvinism. Calvinists and Anti Free Will Proponents openly bash the belief of Arminianism and the biblical truth of human choice, so this is not a one sided issue. The victim card will not work here, and Jordan and NightTwister have already tried that approach. While I may call out bad behavior on occasion, that is not the focus here. The real issue is the doctrine itself.

Well, I believe that free will in choosing God exists within God’s divine enlightenment or enablement. God is the One who graciously draws, convicts, and opens the heart so that a person can truly understand the truth. Yet even with that divine enablement, the individual still must freely choose to believe or reject what God is offering. That choice is real, not forced, and not predetermined.

The issue is that God gives enough light and understanding to all men so that they can respond freely. That is why Scripture repeatedly calls people to repent, believe, seek the Lord, and receive the truth. These commands only make sense if genuine free will exists under God’s gracious influence.

In short, God enables, but man chooses. God enlightens, but man must respond. Free will is real, and Scripture affirms it throughout.

However, your approach in this thread is a mystery to me in this discussion, friend.
You appear to give likes to both sides.

Do you not understand the moral problem or evil in Calvinism?


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only in your head cuz it so easily believes anything it wants
 
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Jordon said:
it does if you dont stop baring false witness
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I am happy to be corrected if I said something a person did not believe. Granted, if a person said gravity does not exist, that would be another matter. You know, those folks out there who say they do not believe in Calvinism (or that they are not a Calvinist) and yet they turn around and later say they adhere to Calvinistic teachings? But really. I do desire to represent what a person believes but yet sometimes people believe things that run contrary to reality that they cannot see. But please feel free to give me post numbers of where you think I bore false witness and I will be happy to correct it (if it is truly a mistake on my part). I have misunderstood others before on Christian forums, and I have apologized before many times.


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reneweddaybyday said:
What the Lord Jesus Christ said ...

Matthew 15:8-9 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Scripturally, religious people are the ones who draw near to God with their mouth, honor God with their lips ... but their hearts are far from God because they teach the commandments of men while claiming the commandments of men are the doctrines of God.

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Yep anyone can be a religious nutcase

Especially those walking around with the fantasy war of free will going on in there head, the Calvies v the Arminians, which faith is better

Or free will being something to value in the unsaved over the views of the saved. Or the fathers will

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Bible_Highlighter said:
I am happy to be corrected if I said something a person did not believe. Granted, if a person said gravity does not exist, that would be another matter. You know, those folks out there who say they do not believe in Calvinism (or that they are not a Calvinist) and yet they turn around and later say they adhere to Calvinistic teachings? But really. I do desire to represent what a person believes but yet sometimes people believe things that run contrary to reality that they cannot see. But please feel free to give me post numbers of where you think I bore false witness and I will be happy to correct it (if it is truly a mistake on my part). I have misunderstood others before on Christian forums, and I have apologized before many times.


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I haven't seen you or your other authoritive friends correct anything you've said wrong to me yet.


It's just like all your right is right.

Well that's freewill for you, the law of sin thinks it's right
 
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Bible_Highlighter said:
I am happy to be corrected if I said something a person did not believe.
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You did that several times today, saying we have to accept or believe things we do not,
that were just stupidity from you, about the natural man resisting God, as if it were not
possible. It is like you have absolutely zero comprehension of what we are saying.
You act like you know what you are talking about and then say the most clueless things.

If your beliefs aligned with Bible truth you would know that is what the natural man does.
 
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Magenta said:
You read a lot into Scripture that simply is not there. That is a bad habit.

Try reading the Bible sometime without all your presups and false teachers talking.
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The sons of Seth view is pretty silly and simply does not work.
So you just like think these are normal giants?



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Magenta said:
You did that several times today, saying we have to accept or believe things we do not,
that were just stupidity from you, about the natural man resisting God, as if it were not
possible. It is like you have absolutely zero comprehension of what we are saying.
You act like you know what you are talking about and then say the most clueless things.
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I keep trying to stress verse 10 for you in 1 Corinthians 2 but it just doesn't want to stick in your mind for some reason.



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Bible_Highlighter said:
I keep trying to stress verse 10 for you in 1 Corinthians 2 but it just doesn't want to stick in your mind for some reason.
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Uh huh. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might
know the things that are freely given to us of God. So that is not the natural man. You are terribly confused.

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Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom (2 Cor ch 3 v 17). If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ (Rom 8 v 9b). The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him (from John 14 v 17). Those not in Christ are not free (see Heb 2 v 15). Praise God if He has rescued you from the dominion of darkness! (see Col 1 v 13)
 
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The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8 v 6-8 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 2 v 13-14
 
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Me_Clay said:
Are you referring to those carnal graphics with scriptures imprinted?
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Yes. But even so, I want to show the love of Christ. Those images can be difficult to look at, especially when I am just trying to scroll through and find regular typed replies.



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One of the fave Bible verses for free willers to ignore, contradict and deny is this one. They claim it does not mean what it says.

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The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians ch 2 v 14
 
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