Acts 2:38 Comparison: Evangelical vs. Oneness / Baptismal-Regeneration View

[lrs68]

Not just Jesus’ name:

“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28‬:‭19‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

I Love this Verse but what is the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit?

I ask this because we never say in the Name of the Son be Healed. We say in the Name of Jesus.

Matthew 28 is using Son and we know that Name is Jesus. The Son is the Title for the Name of Jesus. So Matthew 28 is referencing Titles and indicates there's a Name that is applied to them all.

 

[TruthDefender]

I Love this Verse but what is the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit?

I ask this because we never say in the Name of the Son be Healed. We say in the Name of Jesus.

Matthew 28 is using Son and we know that Name is Jesus. The Son is the Title for the Name of Jesus. So Matthew 28 is referencing Titles and indicates there's a Name that is applied to them all.

Do you think I rewrote this verse? Lol
Yes, the Son always refers to God’s Son (Jesus).

 

[Blue155]

@LightBearer316, have you answered any and all questions or responses to you WITHOUT using AI to which @ChristRoseFromTheDead asked you? Did you answer them honestly? Can you HONESTLY say you have NOT used AI to formulate responses on here?

 

[lrs68]

Do you think I’m rewriting this verse? Lol

Lol no.
But I am just showing the fact that we always use Jesus for healing, casting out demons, accepting Jesus as Savior, and many other things.

We never however say get behind me Satan in the Name of the Son. It's always in the Name of Jesus.

So Matthew 28 is 100% referencing Titles only.

 

[Blue155]

Lol no.
But I am just showing the fact that we always use Jesus for healing, casting out demons, accepting Jesus as Savior, and many other things.

We never however say get behind me Satan in the Name of the Son. It's always in the Name of Jesus.

So Matthew 28 is 100% referencing Titles only.

Suppose someone was mute in the first century, but had the power to cast out demons but couldn’t speak. Would they then not be able to cast out a demon or baptize someone due to not being able to say the words “Jesus”?

 

[LightBearer316]

@LightBearer316, have you answered any and all questions or responses to you WITHOUT using AI to which @ChristRoseFromTheDead asked you? Did you answer them honestly? Can you HONESTLY say you have NOT used AI to formulate responses on here?

Projection — that’s exactly what this is. You’re the ones relying on AI-style copy-pasted talking points to prop up the unsound Oneness / “Jesus-Only” / UPCI system.


Those of us standing on Scripture don’t need algorithms or emotional appeals — the Word of God is sufficient on its own.
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” — 2 Timothy 3:16 KJV

Grace and Peace

 

[Blue155]

Projection — that’s exactly what this is. You’re the ones relying on AI-style copy-pasted talking points to prop up the unsound Oneness / “Jesus-Only” / UPCI system.


Those of us standing on Scripture don’t need algorithms or emotional appeals — the Word of God is sufficient on its own.
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” — 2 Timothy 3:16 KJV

Grace and Peace

@LightBearer316, have you answered any and all questions or responses to you WITHOUT using AI to which @ChristRoseFromTheDead you? Did you answer them honestly? Can you HONESTLY say you have NOT used AI to formulate responses on here?

 

[TruthDefender]

Lol no.
But I am just showing the fact that we always use Jesus for healing, casting out demons, accepting Jesus as Savior, and many other things.

We never however say get behind me Satan in the Name of the Son. It's always in the Name of Jesus.

So Matthew 28 is 100% referencing Titles only.

Ok thanks.

 

[LightBearer316]

@LightBearer316, have you answered any and all questions or responses to you WITHOUT using AI to which @ChristRoseFromTheDead you? Did you answer them honestly? Can you HONESTLY say you have NOT used AI to formulate responses on here?

Now you are just trolling... Posting repetitve troll posts.

 

[LightBearer316]

Having a meaningful theological discussion with those in the Oneness / “Jesus-Only” / UPCI system is almost impossible, because their theology is built on a defective and unsupported framework. When Scripture challenges their assumptions, the pattern is usually to deflect or shut down the conversation rather than engage with the text itself. Same MO repeating itself over and over again.

Grace and Peace

 

[Blue155]

Now you are just trolling... Posting repetitve troll posts.

Do you not want to answer the question?

Y’all see what’s happening @studier and @ChristRoseFromTheDead?

I have asked him “have you answered any and all questions or responses to you WITHOUT using AI to which @ChristRoseFromTheDeadyou? Did you answer them honestly? Can you HONESTLY say you have NOT used AI to formulate responses on here?”

And he refuses to answer. Any answer he gives isn’t answering the question.

 

[LightBearer316]

Do you not want to answer the question?

Y’all see what’s happening @studier and @ChristRoseFromTheDead?

I have asked him “have you answered any and all questions or responses to you WITHOUT using AI to which @ChristRoseFromTheDeadyou? Did you answer them honestly? Can you HONESTLY say you have NOT used AI to formulate responses on here?”

And he refuses to answer. Any answer he gives isn’t answering the question.

I don't answer trolls.

 

[Gideon300]

If the WORD (John 1:1) was manifested into flesh it means He is Spirit first and foremost. So how do you not know when it says the Spirit in Genesis 1 was not talking about the WORD who would have been Spirit during that time?

The Lord is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17. The Holy Spirit is not Jesus. The Holy Spirit did not die and rise again. Jesus is the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world. Revelation 13:8. Explain all that to me. You can't. No one can. That's because it is beyond human understanding.

 

[Mem]

I'm baptized in the Amen and God recognizes His own image.

That statement belongs in the Potentially Profound thoughts, except that it's not only potentially profound.

 

[Blue155]

The Lord is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17. The Holy Spirit is not Jesus. The Holy Spirit did not die and rise again. Jesus is the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world. Revelation 13:8. Explain all that to me. You can't. No one can. That's because it is beyond human understanding.

Does 2 Cor. 3:17 mean Jesus is the Holy Spirit?

 

[Gideon300]

Does 2 Cor. 3:17 mean Jesus is the Holy Spirit?

I believe so. Let me explain. Lord Jesus is a material being. I won't say physical, but he appeared on earth in a recognisable form. He cooked fish; was so normal that two disciples thought that they were speaking to an ordinary man.

We know that Jesus lives in the believer. It cannot be in His material form. So it must be in the form of the Holy Spirit. Beware of the false interpretation of 2 Corinthians 3:17. Some are teaching that the Holy Spirit has replaced the Lord Jesus. This demonic deception began in the 1990's as a result of the so-called Toronto Blessing. The Lord is the Spirit. The Spirit is not Lord.

 

[LightBearer316]

@LightBearer316, did you answer the questions without using AI that @ChristRoseFromTheDead asked you? Did you answer them honestly?

I don't answer trolls.

 

[LightBearer316]

I believe so. Let me explain. Lord Jesus is a material being. I won't say physical, but he appeared on earth in a recognisable form. He cooked fish; was so normal that two disciples thought that they were speaking to an ordinary man.

We know that Jesus lives in the believer. It cannot be in His material form. So it must be in the form of the Holy Spirit. Beware of the false interpretation of 2 Corinthians 3:17. Some are teaching that the Holy Spirit has replaced the Lord Jesus. This demonic deception began in the 1990's as a result of the so-called Toronto Blessing. The Lord is the Spirit. The Spirit is not Lord.

That post confuses the indwelling presence of Christ with the Person of the Holy Spirit—a common Oneness error that collapses the distinct roles within the Godhead.

First the context of 2 Corinthians 3:17

“Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” (KJV)​

Paul isn’t saying Jesus is the Holy Spirit in personhood, but that the Lord who brings liberty is operating through the Holy Spirit. The phrase “the Lord is the Spirit” points to functional unity, not personal identity.
Paul had just contrasted the old covenant (written on stone) with the new covenant (of the Spirit). In other words, the same Lord who gave the law now gives life through His Spirit.

Second distinction between Jesus and the Spirit!

Scripture repeatedly distinguishes the two Persons:

• John 14:16–17 — Jesus says, “I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter…even the Spirit of truth.”
  >>> “Another Comforter” (allon paraklēton) literally means “another of the same kind,” not “Myself in another form.”
• John 16:7 — “If I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you.”
  >>> The Spirit’s coming depends on Jesus’ going — proof they are not the same Person.
• Romans 8:34 — “Christ…is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.”
  >>> Meanwhile, the Spirit intercedes within us (Romans 8:26 KJV). Two intercessors, not one.

Christ’s Indwelling Explained
When Scripture says “Christ in you” (Col. 1:27 KJV), it refers to spiritual union through the Spirit’s presence—not that Jesus and the Spirit are one and the same. The Spirit mediates Christ’s presence in believers (Ephesians 3:16–17 KJV).

Basically...
2 Corinthians 3:17 KJV isn’t teaching that Jesus is the Holy Spirit as the same Person. Paul’s point is that the Lord’s work of transformation happens through the Spirit. The same Lord who gave the Law now brings liberty through His Spirit.
Jesus and the Spirit are united in purpose and essence, but distinct in person. Christ intercedes in heaven (Rom. 8:34 KJV), the Spirit intercedes in us (Rom. 8:26 KJV). That’s perfect harmony, not identity.
Reducing them to one Person confuses the relationship Scripture consistently maintains between Father, Son, and Spirit.

Grace and Peace
Acts 17:11 (KJV)
“These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”

 

[Ouch]

Projection — that’s exactly what this is. You’re the ones relying on AI-style copy-pasted talking points to prop up the unsound Oneness / “Jesus-Only” / UPCI system.


Those of us standing on Scripture don’t need algorithms or emotional appeals — the Word of God is sufficient on its own.
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” — 2 Timothy 3:16 KJV

Grace and Peace

Coming from a person who don't even know we need to get rid of ours sins to be save or know how we get rid of them.

Then you tell us what HIS word is suppose to mean which is not what it says.

Do you really think people will pay any attention to you?

 

[Blue155]

I don't answer trolls.

but you had no problem answering me all other times. Thanks for answering my question without answering it. You have confirmed the hunches of me, @ChristRoseFromTheDead, and @studier correct. If you did the same thing that you answered all other previous times, you’d have to admit that you had been using AI this entire time. Thanks for proving our point.