Is Michael Another Name For Jesus?

[Branch]

“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: A sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:1-9‬ ‭

a you see what effort Hebrews begins with by making a distinction between the son of God and angels

“For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.

But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? Or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; Thou crownedst him with glory and honour, And didst set him over the works of thy hands: Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels;

but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:5-11, 14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

again you see a clear seperation between angels and Jesus angels and men are different creatures angels aren’t born nor do they live in a body of flesh and blood a mortal life on earth

they aren’t worshipped , never called Gods children never made in his image and he never took upon him the nature of an angel.

The son of God

“For unto us a child is born, ( angels aren’t born in the flesh and blood man is born ) unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:6-7‬ ‭

no angel is ever called the mighty God , or everlasting father the father has children

“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: ( father )

But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


see how the angels don’t have an inheritance The heavens are the lords and the earth th belongs to man his children the angels are Gods servants and ministers to mankind to help man be saved and serve Gods spiritual will
In earth spiritual servants of god and messengers to man in the ot

“But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.”

Angels are his spiritual servants and messengers and ministers to mankind.

this is who Jesus is brother he created angels

“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:15-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Simply jesus is God made flesh not micheal Made flesh

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭

micheal isnt the creator

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1, 3, 10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

these things said of Jesus the lord could never be said of an angel it’s only true of God himself

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then Jesus came into the world

“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”

In the end

“that thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: which in his time he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of Lords; who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭6:14-16‬ ‭

Micheal is a servant of Jesus the lord tbis is Jesus

“Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭44:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is Jesus after he lived and died for us

“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:8, 17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus is God who came in the flesh who returned to heaven

“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Micheal Is an ot figure

Dear Brother, I love reading your work-ups; each one is a valuable and blessed sermon. God bless you. Amen.
Different Christian traditions view Michael differently: some, like Seventh-day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses, identify Michael with Jesus as a title or pre-incarnate role. However, this view is biblically mistaken and considered wrong according to what the Bible clearly teaches. The Scriptures distinctly separate Jesus from Michael, showing that Michael is a created angelic being and servant of God, whereas Jesus is the uncreated eternal Son of God, the Creator, and Savior.

To explain this distinction: Michael being a created angelic being means he was made by God as one of His spiritual messengers and servants, tasked with special roles like protecting God's people and engaging in spiritual battles. Being created, Michael is not divine by nature, does not have eternal existence independent of God, and is subordinate to God.

In contrast, Jesus is the uncreated eternal Son of God, meaning He has existed eternally with God the Father, is fully divine, and is the Creator of all things. Jesus alone is worthy of worship, holds sovereign authority, and took on human flesh to accomplish salvation as both God and man.

 

[Branch]

“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: A sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:1-9‬ ‭

a you see what effort Hebrews begins with by making a distinction between the son of God and angels

“For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.

But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? Or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; Thou crownedst him with glory and honour, And didst set him over the works of thy hands: Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels;

but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:5-11, 14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

again you see a clear seperation between angels and Jesus angels and men are different creatures angels aren’t born nor do they live in a body of flesh and blood a mortal life on earth

they aren’t worshipped , never called Gods children never made in his image and he never took upon him the nature of an angel.

The son of God

“For unto us a child is born, ( angels aren’t born in the flesh and blood man is born ) unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:6-7‬ ‭

no angel is ever called the mighty God , or everlasting father the father has children

“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: ( father )

But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


see how the angels don’t have an inheritance The heavens are the lords and the earth th belongs to man his children the angels are Gods servants and ministers to mankind to help man be saved and serve Gods spiritual will
In earth spiritual servants of god and messengers to man in the ot

“But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.”

Angels are his spiritual servants and messengers and ministers to mankind.

this is who Jesus is brother he created angels

“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:15-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Simply jesus is God made flesh not micheal Made flesh

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭

micheal isnt the creator

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1, 3, 10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

these things said of Jesus the lord could never be said of an angel it’s only true of God himself

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then Jesus came into the world

“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”

In the end

“that thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: which in his time he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of Lords; who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭6:14-16‬ ‭

Micheal is a servant of Jesus the lord tbis is Jesus

“Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭44:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is Jesus after he lived and died for us

“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:8, 17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus is God who came in the flesh who returned to heaven

“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Micheal Is an ot figure

Dear reader,
In contrast, Jesus is the uncreated eternal Son of God, meaning He has existed eternally with God the Father, is fully divine, and is the Creator of all things. Jesus alone is worthy of worship, holds sovereign authority, and took on human flesh to accomplish salvation as both God and man.

The Bible supports this clear distinction. For example, Jude 9 shows Michael calling on the Lord to rebuke the devil, indicating he is not the Lord Himself—Jesus rebuked Satan directly, showing divine authority. Hebrews 1 contrasts Jesus' superiority to angels and His divine Sonship. Jesus is called “King of kings and Lord of lords,” titles never ascribed to Michael, who is called “one of the chief princes.” The name Michael means “Who is like God?” highlighting his created servant status, unlike Jesus who is uniquely God incarnate.

Thus, mainstream Christianity and many biblical scholars maintain that Michael and Jesus are distinct beings. Confusing Michael with Jesus ignores fundamental biblical truths about their natures and roles and is biblically wrong according to the clear testimonies of Scripture. God bless you. Amen.

 

[Sipsey]

Dear Brother, I love reading your work-ups; each one is a valuable and blessed sermon. God bless you. Amen.
Different Christian traditions view Michael differently: some, like Seventh-day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses, identify Michael with Jesus as a title or pre-incarnate role. However, this view is biblically mistaken and considered wrong according to what the Bible clearly teaches. The Scriptures distinctly separate Jesus from Michael, showing that Michael is a created angelic being and servant of God, whereas Jesus is the uncreated eternal Son of God, the Creator, and Savior.

To explain this distinction: Michael being a created angelic being means he was made by God as one of His spiritual messengers and servants, tasked with special roles like protecting God's people and engaging in spiritual battles. Being created, Michael is not divine by nature, does not have eternal existence independent of God, and is subordinate to God.

In contrast, Jesus is the uncreated eternal Son of God, meaning He has existed eternally with God the Father, is fully divine, and is the Creator of all things. Jesus alone is worthy of worship, holds sovereign authority, and took on human flesh to accomplish salvation as both God and man.

I didn't know Jehovah’s Witnesses were ever considered Christians.

 

[PennEd]

I didn't know Jehovah’s Witnesses were ever considered Christians.

They are not Christians.

 

[Branch]

I didn't know Jehovah’s Witnesses were ever considered Christians.

Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves Christians, as they adhere to the teachings and practices of Jesus Christ, including baptism in his name and praying in Jesus' name. They believe in the authority of the Bible and the importance of living according to its teachings. However, they differ from mainstream Christianity in several key beliefs, such as the nature of God, the person of Jesus Christ, and the concept of the Trinity. Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in the Trinity, and they interpret certain scriptures differently, which leads to significant differences in their beliefs and practices.

 

[presidente]

My understanding is that Eastern Orthodox theology, which relies on many authors in the first centuries of Christianity, accepts the idea that certain 'angel of the Lord' passages apply to Christ. In more recent times, Michael Heiser has promoted this view.

Another alternative is that angels can prophesy like humans can. So if the angel of the Lord speaks the Lord's message.

It is still a leap to go to the idea that some or all references to the angel of the Lord are references to the pre-incarnate Christ to the idea that Michael is the pre-incarnate Christ, and then it's a much larger leap to go from that to think a reference to Michael in a New Testament book which mentions Jesus Christ also refers to Jesus Christ. And the angel of the Lord struck Herod also after the people praised him as if he were a god. Is that supposed to refer to Jesus?

I don't know of any ancient authors who thought Michael was Jesus. I think the Baptist preacher Miller, who emphasized the Second Coming and whose teaching influenced the Adventist movement (the Seventh Day Adventist being the most famous, though he didn't hold to their seventh day or kosher law positions, apparently) and the founder of the Jehovah's Witness movement. I've read that Miller taught that Michael was He Who would be known as Jesus, but I don't know of anyone before who taught that.

Hebrews contrasts Jesus with angels, 'For to which of the angels said He at any time, Thou art My Son. This day have I begotten Thee.' Paul used that verse in reference to Christ's resurrection. This verse is one that seems to argue against accepting the idea of the 'angel of the Lord' as references to the preincarnate Jesus.

Also, if Michael is not Jesus, is it blasphemy to teach that He is? If the angel of the Lord passages do not refer to Christ, is it blasphemy to say that they do?

 

[Blade]

Jehovah's Witnesses..not to get off topic, would it not be the same to say all Christians are saved. Very unwise to just lump all together not knowing the heart. Why would they come here seeking maybe.. look how some talk about them

As for Michael.. oh just want to meet him. Oh man would he have some stories

 

[Branch]

Dear Sipsey,

Thank you for the conversation. I want to be honest: I would never step foot in a Mormon, Jehovah’s Witness, or even some Pentecostal churches because, based on what I've seen, I sincerely believe their doctrines aren't truly based on the Bible—especially what’s found in the King James Version.

Whenever I’m around someone from one of these groups, I try to talk about what the Bible says and encourage them to look at Scripture carefully. I know their churches teach some different beliefs—for example, Jehovah’s Witnesses say only 144,000 people go to heaven, while Mormons believe in additional scriptures and a Godhead of separate divine beings. Pentecostal churches sometimes pick and choose Bible verses to support their doctrines, and some preachers admit they don’t believe the Bible is 100 percent true. I've argued with a Pentecostal pastor on this, but as far as I know, he chose not to accept what the Bible says.

I’ve had conversations with a friend who is a Jehovah’s Witness, explaining that Scripture teaches salvation is open to more than just the 144,000 as the bible says the gentiles aren't numbered. She accepted that she won’t go to heaven but believes she’ll inherit the earth instead. I once said to another Jehovah’s Witness, “Why settle for inheriting the earth when the Bible speaks of heaven?” I explained it’s like receiving an old microwave as a gift compared to something much better. They believe millions will be resurrected and live happily together on earth after God restores it over a very long time, but according to my understanding, that teaching misses the fullness of biblical salvation in Christ.

I haven't had much success convincing people to change their doctrine—they stay in the Jehovah’s Witness or Mormon church—but I make it clear that they know their doctrine is wrong, it doesn’t line up with what is said in the Bible, but they typically choose to stay in their church or choose not to believe what the Bible says. I don’t cut them off. I want to keep showing people—whether Mormon, Jehovah’s Witness, Pentecostal, or anyone else—what the Bible teaches. We’re called to speak truth in love because that’s the heart of Jesus' Gospel. My hope is that people won’t miss out on heaven and God's promises by following teachings that aren’t truly biblical.

 

[Sipsey]

Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves Christians, as they adhere to the teachings and practices of Jesus Christ, including baptism in his name and praying in Jesus' name. They believe in the authority of the Bible and the importance of living according to its teachings. However, they differ from mainstream Christianity in several key beliefs, such as the nature of God, the person of Jesus Christ, and the concept of the Trinity. Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in the Trinity, and they interpret certain scriptures differently, which leads to significant differences in their beliefs and practices.

Maybe they do, but historically they have always been viewed as a cult, till recently. Heck, I heard a news article recently that called the Mormons a Christian sect.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Someone reminded me of this post from the early pages of this Adventist thread. So I'll repost it here. I'm glad that others recognize this fact too.

We are only supposed to try the spirits and will someday judge angels. However we are not to pray to them.


“Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.”

Answering a 7th Day Adventists that apparently was banned at some point.
Go back to the gospels and we find that Jesus was tempted of Satan in the wilderness. Each time the Lord Jesus rebuked the Devil with His written word.

Michael the Archangel referred to His Authority, The Lord, as the One to rebuke the devil. All of the devils that Jesus met were rebuked and cast out of those possessed.
He proved that He was truly the Lord throughout His ministry.

I look forward to that time when Jesus, Who is NOT Michael, will judge Satan's wicked soldiers. Because we have judgement in common, does NOT make us Jesus. Christians should not use that kind of false reasoning as the false religions do. We will judge the remaining elect angels while Jesus will have them cast the fallen into Hell.
Jesus Christ is King of kings.

 

[Sipsey]

Dear Sipsey,

Thank you for the conversation. I want to be honest: I would never step foot in a Mormon, Jehovah’s Witness, or even some Pentecostal churches because, based on what I've seen, I sincerely believe their doctrines aren't truly based on the Bible—especially what’s found in the King James Version.

Whenever I’m around someone from one of these groups, I try to talk about what the Bible says and encourage them to look at Scripture carefully. I know their churches teach some different beliefs—for example, Jehovah’s Witnesses say only 144,000 people go to heaven, while Mormons believe in additional scriptures and a Godhead of separate divine beings. Pentecostal churches sometimes pick and choose Bible verses to support their doctrines, and some preachers admit they don’t believe the Bible is 100 percent true. I've argued with a Pentecostal pastor on this, but as far as I know, he chose not to accept what the Bible says.

I’ve had conversations with a friend who is a Jehovah’s Witness, explaining that Scripture teaches salvation is open to more than just the 144,000 as the bible says the gentiles aren't numbered. She accepted that she won’t go to heaven but believes she’ll inherit the earth instead. I once said to another Jehovah’s Witness, “Why settle for inheriting the earth when the Bible speaks of heaven?” I explained it’s like receiving an old microwave as a gift compared to something much better. They believe millions will be resurrected and live happily together on earth after God restores it over a very long time, but according to my understanding, that teaching misses the fullness of biblical salvation in Christ.

I haven't had much success convincing people to change their doctrine—they stay in the Jehovah’s Witness or Mormon church—but I make it clear that they know their doctrine is wrong, it doesn’t line up with what is said in the Bible, but they typically choose to stay in their church or choose not to believe what the Bible says. I don’t cut them off. I want to keep showing people—whether Mormon, Jehovah’s Witness, Pentecostal, or anyone else—what the Bible teaches. We’re called to speak truth in love because that’s the heart of Jesus' Gospel. My hope is that people won’t miss out on heaven and God's promises by following teachings that aren’t truly biblical.

Thank you for responding. It is not my nature to be rude to anyone, and I know several folks that grew up in a Jehovah’s Witness church. It was more of a cultural thing with them. Their parents raised them in that setting and they assumed their parents and friends had the correct perspective on God. I researched and talked to several folks who had left that church and whose mission was to share the truth about their errant beliefs.

The man who began that religion hated the concept of Hell and set about persuading others to agree with him. He claimed he was able to translate the underlying Greek text of the Bible, but when taken to court could not read or explain any of the Greek text presented to him. He was a fraudster who didn’t like what the Bible teaches, so he had a the New World Translation published that changed several verses to reflect his personal beliefs.

 

[mailmandan]

I see a clear distinction in the power and authority of Jesus and Michael the archangel when comparing Matthew 4:10 where Jesus rebukes Satan and in Jude verse 9, where Michael the archangel "dared not bring a judgment of blasphemy" against Satan and calls on the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus is Lord and is God incarnate (Romans 10:9; John 1:1,14) yet Michael the archangel is only an angel.

 

[Mwestton]

Friday 1-20-23 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Tevet 27 5783 31st. Winter Day

Written by Biblical Research Institute

What biblical evidence supports the teaching that Michael is another name for Jesus?

The name Michael is used five times in the Bible to designate a celestial being (Dan. 10:13, 21; 12:1; Jude 9; Rev. 12:7). He is nowhere explicitly identified with Jesus, but some Christian writers have equated the two by carefully comparing the role played by Michael with that of Jesus. Any comparisons yield not only similarities but also dissimilarities, and both should be taken into account. We’ll start with the passages in which Michael is mentioned and then broaden the horizon to include several passages that are conceptually related to His person and experience.

1. He seems to be an angel: Michael is identified as “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13), “your prince” (verse 21), “the great prince” (Dan. 12:1), and “the archangel” (Jude 9). “Archangel” implies that He is the prince of the angels, suggesting that Michael cannot be another name for Jesus because He is divine and angels are created beings.

Part of the problem is that the noun “angel” is taken to designate a creature, while in the Bible it designates a function. In other words, an “angel” is a being who functions as a “messenger” of God. In most cases they are created beings, but there is an exception.

In the Old Testament there are several references to the “angel [messenger] of the Lord” in which He is equated with God (e.g., Ex. 3:2, 4; Judges 6:12, 14). It is not that the Messenger is identified with the One who sent Him as His representative, but rather that the Sender functions at the same time as the Messenger. Many Christians have identified the Angel of the Lord as the preincarnate Christ. This Christological interpretation seems to be biblically valid.

2. He is leader of the angels: The phrase “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13) could give the impression that He is one among many princes. But according to Revelation 12:7, Michael is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels, or “the great prince.” When necessary, He personally assists angels in their assigned tasks (Dan. 10:13), yet the angelic hosts are under His command (Rev. 12:7). He is indeed the “archangel” (Jude 9). This title is mentioned in one other place in the Bible: 1 Thesselonians 4:16, in the context of the second coming of Christ. He returns “with the voice of the archangel,” suggesting that Michael is most probably another name for Jesus.

3. He protects God’s people: Michael is described as the Prince of Israel (Dan. 10:21), the One who protects Israel (Dan. 12:1). This protection is described in military terms and portrays the Prince as a warrior. In practically all the passages in which He is mentioned there is a conflict between God’s people and their enemies, and Michael is present to defend them or fight for them. The protection can also take the form of judgment in which Michael stands up and defends and delivers God’s people (ibid.). Those are functions of Christ in the New Testament and confirm the suggestion that Michael and Christ are the same person, involved in leadership in the heavenly and earthly realms.

4. He is Prince of the heavenly hosts: In Daniel 8:10 there is a reference to a celestial being who performs the daily services in the heavenly sanctuary. There is only one other passage in the Old Testament in which this being is mentioned. Joshua had an encounter with a being who identified himself as the “captain [commander] of the host [army] of the Lord” (Joshua 5:14). He ordered Joshua to remove his shoes because the ground he was standing on was holy, similar to God’s apparition to Moses. The context makes clear that this being was the Lord Himself (Joshua 6:2). This Prince is the same person called in other passages Prince Michael, and therefore we can identify Him with the preincarnate Christ.

So even though the Bible does not clearly identify Michael with Christ, there is enough biblical information to warrant the view that They are the same person. The name Michael stresses the fact that Christ is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels and the defender of His people as warrior, judge, and priest.

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My name is Michael. In the Greek ,it means, the definition "who is like God'. So I say no Michael is not another name for Jesus.

 

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Friday 1-20-23 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Tevet 27 5783 31st. Winter Day

Written by Biblical Research Institute

What biblical evidence supports the teaching that Michael is another name for Jesus?

The name Michael is used five times in the Bible to designate a celestial being (Dan. 10:13, 21; 12:1; Jude 9; Rev. 12:7). He is nowhere explicitly identified with Jesus, but some Christian writers have equated the two by carefully comparing the role played by Michael with that of Jesus. Any comparisons yield not only similarities but also dissimilarities, and both should be taken into account. We’ll start with the passages in which Michael is mentioned and then broaden the horizon to include several passages that are conceptually related to His person and experience.

1. He seems to be an angel: Michael is identified as “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13), “your prince” (verse 21), “the great prince” (Dan. 12:1), and “the archangel” (Jude 9). “Archangel” implies that He is the prince of the angels, suggesting that Michael cannot be another name for Jesus because He is divine and angels are created beings.

Part of the problem is that the noun “angel” is taken to designate a creature, while in the Bible it designates a function. In other words, an “angel” is a being who functions as a “messenger” of God. In most cases they are created beings, but there is an exception.

In the Old Testament there are several references to the “angel [messenger] of the Lord” in which He is equated with God (e.g., Ex. 3:2, 4; Judges 6:12, 14). It is not that the Messenger is identified with the One who sent Him as His representative, but rather that the Sender functions at the same time as the Messenger. Many Christians have identified the Angel of the Lord as the preincarnate Christ. This Christological interpretation seems to be biblically valid.

2. He is leader of the angels: The phrase “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13) could give the impression that He is one among many princes. But according to Revelation 12:7, Michael is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels, or “the great prince.” When necessary, He personally assists angels in their assigned tasks (Dan. 10:13), yet the angelic hosts are under His command (Rev. 12:7). He is indeed the “archangel” (Jude 9). This title is mentioned in one other place in the Bible: 1 Thesselonians 4:16, in the context of the second coming of Christ. He returns “with the voice of the archangel,” suggesting that Michael is most probably another name for Jesus.

3. He protects God’s people: Michael is described as the Prince of Israel (Dan. 10:21), the One who protects Israel (Dan. 12:1). This protection is described in military terms and portrays the Prince as a warrior. In practically all the passages in which He is mentioned there is a conflict between God’s people and their enemies, and Michael is present to defend them or fight for them. The protection can also take the form of judgment in which Michael stands up and defends and delivers God’s people (ibid.). Those are functions of Christ in the New Testament and confirm the suggestion that Michael and Christ are the same person, involved in leadership in the heavenly and earthly realms.

4. He is Prince of the heavenly hosts: In Daniel 8:10 there is a reference to a celestial being who performs the daily services in the heavenly sanctuary. There is only one other passage in the Old Testament in which this being is mentioned. Joshua had an encounter with a being who identified himself as the “captain [commander] of the host [army] of the Lord” (Joshua 5:14). He ordered Joshua to remove his shoes because the ground he was standing on was holy, similar to God’s apparition to Moses. The context makes clear that this being was the Lord Himself (Joshua 6:2). This Prince is the same person called in other passages Prince Michael, and therefore we can identify Him with the preincarnate Christ.

So even though the Bible does not clearly identify Michael with Christ, there is enough biblical information to warrant the view that They are the same person. The name Michael stresses the fact that Christ is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels and the defender of His people as warrior, judge, and priest.

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I believe this was said, Michael is termed as a question," Who is like God?" not Who is like God. This is important because Michael was sent by God to those who thought they were like God. Michael was the warring Angel who God sent to prove they were not.


The Prince of Persia, Daniel 10:13, who is also called" Michael, one of the chief princes," which in Hebrew is: prince, ruler, leader, chief, chieftain, official, captain

Chief:
first, primary, former

1. former (of time)
   1. ancestors

Michael, in his action, could be a type of Christ. But his name is not Jesus.

 

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Friday 1-20-23 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Tevet 27 5783 31st. Winter Day

Written by Biblical Research Institute

What biblical evidence supports the teaching that Michael is another name for Jesus?

The name Michael is used five times in the Bible to designate a celestial being (Dan. 10:13, 21; 12:1; Jude 9; Rev. 12:7). He is nowhere explicitly identified with Jesus, but some Christian writers have equated the two by carefully comparing the role played by Michael with that of Jesus. Any comparisons yield not only similarities but also dissimilarities, and both should be taken into account. We’ll start with the passages in which Michael is mentioned and then broaden the horizon to include several passages that are conceptually related to His person and experience.

1. He seems to be an angel: Michael is identified as “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13), “your prince” (verse 21), “the great prince” (Dan. 12:1), and “the archangel” (Jude 9). “Archangel” implies that He is the prince of the angels, suggesting that Michael cannot be another name for Jesus because He is divine and angels are created beings.

Part of the problem is that the noun “angel” is taken to designate a creature, while in the Bible it designates a function. In other words, an “angel” is a being who functions as a “messenger” of God. In most cases they are created beings, but there is an exception.

In the Old Testament there are several references to the “angel [messenger] of the Lord” in which He is equated with God (e.g., Ex. 3:2, 4; Judges 6:12, 14). It is not that the Messenger is identified with the One who sent Him as His representative, but rather that the Sender functions at the same time as the Messenger. Many Christians have identified the Angel of the Lord as the preincarnate Christ. This Christological interpretation seems to be biblically valid.

2. He is leader of the angels: The phrase “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13) could give the impression that He is one among many princes. But according to Revelation 12:7, Michael is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels, or “the great prince.” When necessary, He personally assists angels in their assigned tasks (Dan. 10:13), yet the angelic hosts are under His command (Rev. 12:7). He is indeed the “archangel” (Jude 9). This title is mentioned in one other place in the Bible: 1 Thesselonians 4:16, in the context of the second coming of Christ. He returns “with the voice of the archangel,” suggesting that Michael is most probably another name for Jesus.

3. He protects God’s people: Michael is described as the Prince of Israel (Dan. 10:21), the One who protects Israel (Dan. 12:1). This protection is described in military terms and portrays the Prince as a warrior. In practically all the passages in which He is mentioned there is a conflict between God’s people and their enemies, and Michael is present to defend them or fight for them. The protection can also take the form of judgment in which Michael stands up and defends and delivers God’s people (ibid.). Those are functions of Christ in the New Testament and confirm the suggestion that Michael and Christ are the same person, involved in leadership in the heavenly and earthly realms.

4. He is Prince of the heavenly hosts: In Daniel 8:10 there is a reference to a celestial being who performs the daily services in the heavenly sanctuary. There is only one other passage in the Old Testament in which this being is mentioned. Joshua had an encounter with a being who identified himself as the “captain [commander] of the host [army] of the Lord” (Joshua 5:14). He ordered Joshua to remove his shoes because the ground he was standing on was holy, similar to God’s apparition to Moses. The context makes clear that this being was the Lord Himself (Joshua 6:2). This Prince is the same person called in other passages Prince Michael, and therefore we can identify Him with the preincarnate Christ.

So even though the Bible does not clearly identify Michael with Christ, there is enough biblical information to warrant the view that They are the same person. The name Michael stresses the fact that Christ is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels and the defender of His people as warrior, judge, and priest.

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YuP !

 

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Friday 1-20-23 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Tevet 27 5783 31st. Winter Day

Written by Biblical Research Institute

What biblical evidence supports the teaching that Michael is another name for Jesus?

The name Michael is used five times in the Bible to designate a celestial being (Dan. 10:13, 21; 12:1; Jude 9; Rev. 12:7). He is nowhere explicitly identified with Jesus, but some Christian writers have equated the two by carefully comparing the role played by Michael with that of Jesus. Any comparisons yield not only similarities but also dissimilarities, and both should be taken into account. We’ll start with the passages in which Michael is mentioned and then broaden the horizon to include several passages that are conceptually related to His person and experience.

1. He seems to be an angel: Michael is identified as “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13), “your prince” (verse 21), “the great prince” (Dan. 12:1), and “the archangel” (Jude 9). “Archangel” implies that He is the prince of the angels, suggesting that Michael cannot be another name for Jesus because He is divine and angels are created beings.

Part of the problem is that the noun “angel” is taken to designate a creature, while in the Bible it designates a function. In other words, an “angel” is a being who functions as a “messenger” of God. In most cases they are created beings, but there is an exception.

In the Old Testament there are several references to the “angel [messenger] of the Lord” in which He is equated with God (e.g., Ex. 3:2, 4; Judges 6:12, 14). It is not that the Messenger is identified with the One who sent Him as His representative, but rather that the Sender functions at the same time as the Messenger. Many Christians have identified the Angel of the Lord as the preincarnate Christ. This Christological interpretation seems to be biblically valid.

2. He is leader of the angels: The phrase “one of the chief princes” (Dan. 10:13) could give the impression that He is one among many princes. But according to Revelation 12:7, Michael is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels, or “the great prince.” When necessary, He personally assists angels in their assigned tasks (Dan. 10:13), yet the angelic hosts are under His command (Rev. 12:7). He is indeed the “archangel” (Jude 9). This title is mentioned in one other place in the Bible: 1 Thesselonians 4:16, in the context of the second coming of Christ. He returns “with the voice of the archangel,” suggesting that Michael is most probably another name for Jesus.

3. He protects God’s people: Michael is described as the Prince of Israel (Dan. 10:21), the One who protects Israel (Dan. 12:1). This protection is described in military terms and portrays the Prince as a warrior. In practically all the passages in which He is mentioned there is a conflict between God’s people and their enemies, and Michael is present to defend them or fight for them. The protection can also take the form of judgment in which Michael stands up and defends and delivers God’s people (ibid.). Those are functions of Christ in the New Testament and confirm the suggestion that Michael and Christ are the same person, involved in leadership in the heavenly and earthly realms.

4. He is Prince of the heavenly hosts: In Daniel 8:10 there is a reference to a celestial being who performs the daily services in the heavenly sanctuary. There is only one other passage in the Old Testament in which this being is mentioned. Joshua had an encounter with a being who identified himself as the “captain [commander] of the host [army] of the Lord” (Joshua 5:14). He ordered Joshua to remove his shoes because the ground he was standing on was holy, similar to God’s apparition to Moses. The context makes clear that this being was the Lord Himself (Joshua 6:2). This Prince is the same person called in other passages Prince Michael, and therefore we can identify Him with the preincarnate Christ.

So even though the Bible does not clearly identify Michael with Christ, there is enough biblical information to warrant the view that They are the same person. The name Michael stresses the fact that Christ is the supreme leader of the heavenly angels and the defender of His people as warrior, judge, and priest.

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Is Michael Another Name For Jesus?

Love, Walter and Debbie

This is written through the lens of an organization with its own set of issues. The Biblical Research Institute (BRI) is an official department of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.

 

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Michael is not another name for Jesus.

And Michael is not Jesus.

The Bible describes Michael as an angel.

But Jesus is described as God showing a visible image of Himself to the Hebrews and has a glorified body.

Jesus dwells in the light that no person can approach unto and no person has ever seen Jesus, and no person will ever see Jesus because He is an invisible God.

The angels worship Jesus as well as all people will for all people will confess Jesus as Lord whether on earth or the wicked at judgement.

Michael receives no worship and is not known as Lord.

God's name reveals His character, and attributes, to mankind.

In the Old Testament the name Jehovah was revealed meaning physical deliverance, and all the blessings pertaining to the physical covenant.

In the New Testament the name Jesus was revealed meaning spiritual deliverance, and all the blessings pertaining to the spiritual covenant.

The name Jesus is the name above all names not only in this world but in the world to come, and is above the name Jehovah but includes the name.

Jesus is the highest revealed name to mankind.

There is no purpose for Michael to be another name for Jesus for He is God, and His name represents salvation, and His name is the highest name revealed to mankind.

Is God going to have an inferior name applied to Him.

But we shall call Him Jesus the greatest name of all revealed to mankind.

Dan 10:12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Michaēl
mikh-ah-ale'
Of Hebrew origin [H4317]; Michael, an archangel: - Michael.

Michael is one of the chief princes which means there are others.

Jesus stands alone and there is no being that is His equal.

Michael and his angels fight the fallen angels and cast them to earth so Michael is an angel fighting along side the other angels.

Michael is way inferior to Jesus both in name and being.

Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting, no beginning.

Even if Jesus is a created god He would be greater than Michael in name and being.

But Jesus is God that has no beginning and Michael is an angel with a beginning.

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone,

and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

The angels desire to look in to the salvation of the saints for they will have a glorified body like Jesus, and rule in the millennial reign with Jesus, and have a name given that no one knows but them, and will have a higher position in heaven, and the angels are ministers to the saints.

Even a saint will be greater in name and being than Michael.

1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Isa 40:17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isa 40:18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?

Michael is nothing compared to Jesus in name and being.

 

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Michael is not another name for Jesus.

And Michael is not Jesus.

The Bible describes Michael as an angel.

But Jesus is described as God showing a visible image of Himself to the Hebrews and has a glorified body.

Jesus dwells in the light that no person can approach unto and no person has ever seen Jesus, and no person will ever see Jesus because He is an invisible God.

The angels worship Jesus as well as all people will for all people will confess Jesus as Lord whether on earth or the wicked at judgement.

Michael receives no worship and is not known as Lord.

God's name reveals His character, and attributes, to mankind.

In the Old Testament the name Jehovah was revealed meaning physical deliverance, and all the blessings pertaining to the physical covenant.

In the New Testament the name Jesus was revealed meaning spiritual deliverance, and all the blessings pertaining to the spiritual covenant.

The name Jesus is the name above all names not only in this world but in the world to come, and is above the name Jehovah but includes the name.

Jesus is the highest revealed name to mankind.

There is no purpose for Michael to be another name for Jesus for He is God, and His name represents salvation, and His name is the highest name revealed to mankind.

Is God going to have an inferior name applied to Him.

But we shall call Him Jesus the greatest name of all revealed to mankind.

Dan 10:12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Michaēl
mikh-ah-ale'
Of Hebrew origin [H4317]; Michael, an archangel: - Michael.

Michael is one of the chief princes which means there are others.

Jesus stands alone and there is no being that is His equal.

Michael and his angels fight the fallen angels and cast them to earth so Michael is an angel fighting along side the other angels.

Michael is way inferior to Jesus both in name and being.

Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting, no beginning.

Even if Jesus is a created god He would be greater than Michael in name and being.

But Jesus is God that has no beginning and Michael is an angel with a beginning.

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone,

and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

The angels desire to look in to the salvation of the saints for they will have a glorified body like Jesus, and rule in the millennial reign with Jesus, and have a name given that no one knows but them, and will have a higher position in heaven, and the angels are ministers to the saints.

Even a saint will be greater in name and being than Michael.

1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Isa 40:17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isa 40:18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?

Michael is nothing compared to Jesus in name and being.

Revelation 22:8-9.

 

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Maybe they do, but historically they have always been viewed as a cult, till recently. Heck, I heard a news article recently that called the Mormons a Christian sect.

It is with deep concern and sadness that I write regarding the Christian Broadcasting Network's decision to allow the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (commonly known as the Mormons) to broadcast on CBN. This decision marked a turning point that many consider a mistake, as it granted a form of endorsement to a group still widely regarded by many Christians as a cult due to its severely flawed doctrines.
The Mormon faith, founded by Joseph Smith, was built on controversial claims and a pursuit of control and wealth by its leaders. Joseph Smith’s life ended violently when he was killed by an angry mob in Carthage, Illinois, in 1844 after being charged with treason for declaring martial law in Nauvoo, the city he founded for his new church. His establishment of a powerful militia and assertion of religious-political control alarmed many, increasing tensions with state authorities.
Moreover, Joseph Smith faced multiple assassination attempts before his death. His growing influence and the expansion of the church sparked fear and hostility in neighboring towns and states. These communities viewed his leadership as a threat, and his associates, at times, were accused of violent actions against perceived enemies. These factors paint a troubling picture of the dangerous and divisive environment surrounding the church’s early days.
After Smith’s death, his wife Emma Smith briefly led parts of the movement, but the church soon fractured, with many followers eventually rallying under Brigham Young, a man focused on expanding power and wealth. The church’s troubling origins reveal a pattern of control, deception, and financial exploitation by its leadership, painting a picture of a movement far removed from biblical Christianity.
CBN’s acceptance of Mormon advertising and programming, reportedly in exchange for significant financial support, gave a powerful platform and implicit approval to teachings inconsistent with historic Christian doctrine. This has contributed to confusion and heartache within the Christian community, especially among faithful viewers who look to CBN for sound biblical teaching.

 

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Dear reader,
In contrast, Jesus is the uncreated eternal Son of God, meaning He has existed eternally with God the Father, is fully divine, and is the Creator of all things. Jesus alone is worthy of worship, holds sovereign authority, and took on human flesh to accomplish salvation as both God and man.

The Bible supports this clear distinction. For example, Jude 9 shows Michael calling on the Lord to rebuke the devil, indicating he is not the Lord Himself—Jesus rebuked Satan directly, showing divine authority. Hebrews 1 contrasts Jesus' superiority to angels and His divine Sonship. Jesus is called “King of kings and Lord of lords,” titles never ascribed to Michael, who is called “one of the chief princes.” The name Michael means “Who is like God?” highlighting his created servant status, unlike Jesus who is uniquely God incarnate.

Thus, mainstream Christianity and many biblical scholars maintain that Michael and Jesus are distinct beings. Confusing Michael with Jesus ignores fundamental biblical truths about their natures and roles and is biblically wrong according to the clear testimonies of Scripture. God bless you. Amen.

i think your missing the part of the man who is the mediator between God and men

jesus is definately God manifest in the flesh , but I think your missing the man who he became the one intercessor and mediator between God and man the high priest and son of God.

I think your kissing this part ehoch is essential to Jesus Christs identity

“And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭1:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Again so you don’t misunderstand Jesus is God the creator manifest in the flesh of mankind , a son ehonis the fulfillment of Gods promises throughout the Bible that he himself would become flesh and dwell among men and become the man of God who can mediate a relationship for us the only one actually

Your missing this part

“The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You can’t rightly say “ God is Abraham’s son “ or “ David’s son “ because the promise was for a man who would be born from Abraham’s promises and David’s promises . But obviously the gospel is about the son of God , that promise being fulfilled so we could have a mediator

To understand the gospel we have to acknowledge the man as well as God

“For there is one God,

and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God is eternal and everlasting but he promised a son of man would be born and he would be glorified among us in him and he would be exalted as king

“Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:5-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Have to acknowledge Jesus the second n who was born in the manger this day a savior is born ….Gotta also acknolwedge Gods to own of salvation that’s what the gospel is about the promised son of man. Son of Abraham son of David ect the king and high priest Jesus … we need him and his mediation and intercession or we can’t be saved

“Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house. For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭3:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s okay to acknowledge the things it says in the Bible about Jesus you don’t have to “ deny his divinity , in order o acknowledge his humanity “ he became a man who we needed. It he actually became that man