No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

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Jn 6:44

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ. That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill,

It also means that no man has the ability to believe on Christ for Salvation. Because Christ equates believing on Him with coming to Him. Jn 6:64-65

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


What about those Jesus says to them Jn 5:40

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Thats answered in Jn 6:44 they simply will not come because they cannot come unless the Power of God draws them and makes them willing

Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

If and when one comes to believe on Christ willingly, the credit goes to Gods Power !
 
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ. That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill,

So very wrong! Being called does not equate to being saved.


Joshua, Chapter 24:

15And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

Nice try though......


 
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God Father and Son won for us all to choose to believe God or not in risen Son for the new life to begin in each one that chooses to believe God and stand in that, no matter what happens, good or bad from that time forward. Father steps in, see Ephesians 1:13, seals each that believe God, then, each get to see truth over the error(s) here in this world still going on. It takes willing listening to God not the self or anyone else anymore, to me at least, thank you Father and Son as Won for me and all the world. 1 John2:27.
God and Son together as Won (One) has called us all to choose to believe God, receive new life from God in risen Son. for them or not, being new in love and mercy to all not just a few anymore.
Today, choose, life or death, God is life, and death is dead, God is not a God of the dead, and Jesus is alive risen from the dead for us all to choose to believe God is love as in 1 Cor 13:13, that goes on forever, and to see the mercy seat in appreciation, see 1 Cor 13:4-7. Beleive God in that and ask God for that to get imputed in you by God for you through risen Son Jesus to you, thank you. Believe, receive and see new in this love and mercy for you through Son to you too. Renew the mind, see from Father's view through Son to you.
Love all others as I, Jesus have loved you first!
Wow, Thank you Lord
 
Jn 6:44

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ. That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill,

It also means that no man has the ability to believe on Christ for Salvation. Because Christ equates believing on Him with coming to Him. Jn 6:64-65

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


What about those Jesus says to them Jn 5:40

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Thats answered in Jn 6:44 they simply will not come because they cannot come unless the Power of God draws them and makes them willing

Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

If and when one comes to believe on Christ willingly, the credit goes to Gods Power !

Well, it seems hyoid have made this choice, and so I see free will, don't you?
I guess you a puppet, controlled by others, evil or good, hmm, how cannot having free choice ever be love to all, from God to all?

Thanks God loves us all equally, thank you
 
Jn 6:44

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ. That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill,

It also means that no man has the ability to believe on Christ for Salvation. Because Christ equates believing on Him with coming to Him. Jn 6:64-65

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


What about those Jesus says to them Jn 5:40

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Thats answered in Jn 6:44 they simply will not come because they cannot come unless the Power of God draws them and makes them willing

Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

If and when one comes to believe on Christ willingly, the credit goes to Gods Power !

From New Life in Christ Jesus - Everything We Need for Life and Godliness:

Man’s singular role in salvation has always been to believe in Jesus Christ. This does not detract from God’s sovereignty. He is the one who decided, without any counsel from man, to offer Jesus Christ as the Savior of mankind. And it was solely His decision to offer forgiveness of sins and eternal life in exchange for trusting in Jesus (1 Cor 1:21). He created the paradigm, and He broadcasted it to the world. Whenever people hear His message, believe it, and respond to its call by entrusting the safekeeping of their souls to Christ, God honors His side of the bargain and saves them.​
In the midst of one of the most intriguing dialogs concerning the salvation of mankind (John 6:22–71), Jesus told the crowd several important truths that confirm this paradigm.​
First, He said, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him” (John 6:44). Lost people do not seek after God (Rom. 3:11). Instead, God is the one who seeks out the lost to save them. And though we do have a role alongside God as His ambassadors to a lost world, we must always keep in mind that God Himself is always actively working in people’s lives to draw them to Him. God Himself is the primary one who implores them to be reconciled with Him, and no one turns to God apart from God acting upon him directly.​
Second, He said, “It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me” (John 6:45). This is an important facet of our own salvation and the salvation of every other person. Namely, when we turned to Jesus to save us from our sins, our turning was the direct result of us having heard and learned from God.​
What exactly did we hear and learn from God? We heard and learned everything necessary to convince us to turn to Christ to save us from our sins. I don’t have a complete list of the particulars, but those things include the knowledge that we need the salvation that Christ offers and the understanding that Jesus has the power and the will to save us from our sins. And God does not send people to any other person for salvation. He sends them only to Jesus.​
Third, He said, “The one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out” (John 6:37). This final point is the closing of the deal. When God seeks out a lost person to save him, teaches him that he needs a Savior, and convinces him that Jesus is willing and able to save him, then, when that person learns this lesson from God and turns to Christ for salvation, under no circumstances will Jesus turn him away (John 6:37). If God ever did turn one person away, He would be a liar, and His lie would be the cruelest lie ever told. But God is trustworthy and honors His promises. He has declared it, and He will not change His mind: “For ‘whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved’ ” (Rom. 10:13).​
If you are not a child of God but want to become one, then you should know that the path to becoming a child of God is through trusting in Jesus Christ. If God is drawing you to Him and is urging you to trust Jesus Christ with the safekeeping of your soul, then do it right now. Receive the forgiveness that God offers you in Jesus Christ. John 1:12–13 says, “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” If you place your trust in Jesus, He will make you His child.​
 
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I’ve checked your selected verses Deut. 30:19-20; John 7:17, Gal. 5:16-17, Rom. 10:9-10.

Not a single one of those verses teaches that man’s will is what brought him eternal life!

“The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world. He was in the world, and the world came into being through him; yet the world did not know him. He came to what was his own, and his own people did not accept him. But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God, who were born, not of blood or of the will of the flesh or of the will of man, but of God.” (John 1:9-13)

The saved believe because they had been born by the will of God, not the will of man.

I will take you from the nations, and gather you from all the countries, and bring you into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. A new heart I will give you, and a new spirit I will put within you; and I will remove from your body the heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. I will put my spirit within you, and make you follow my statutes and be careful to observe my ordinances.” (Ezek 36:24-27)

I see the will of the Lord GOD in that prophecy, but I do not see this being attributed to the will of man!
 
therefore we the people are not creators, we are responders, yet seem to contemn ue to try to create, I see to be a responder not a creator any longer.
Hey God, I believe you in Son for me, thank you. I do not understand this mystery or your mysterious ways from day one in the fall of the first Adam.
I see, me "I" am not perfect, thank you for Son as perfect in my place
I believe you see us all as worthy of love and mercy, otherwise Son would not have ever got Called to do your will for us all?
I love now, only because you first loved me and all others also as said in 1 John 2:1-27 and chapter 4 as well
This is amazingly not understandable to my flrst born flesh for sure, seeing this world full of evil doings, as I have experienced and done myself as well. I want to be taught new by you as in Phil 3 tells me about it from Paul who was under Law and misunderstood being under Law and saw to let go of being under Law to win the risen Son and you to work new through him in love and mercy to all, thank you
 
People confuse free will with ability. No man can come to the father of himself because there is nothing in him to know the way; therefore he has no ability, ie, power, even if he wills to know God. However, once the holy spirit teaches people of the father, those who hearken and respond, learn the way and can approach the father of their own free will because now they have been given the ability. Paul talked about this conundrum that is answered in Christ

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. Romans 7:18
For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Romans 7:22-25
 
Jn 6:44

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ. That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill,

It also means that no man has the ability to believe on Christ for Salvation. Because Christ equates believing on Him with coming to Him. Jn 6:64-65

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


What about those Jesus says to them Jn 5:40

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Thats answered in Jn 6:44 they simply will not come because they cannot come unless the Power of God draws them and makes them willing

Ps 110:3

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

If and when one comes to believe on Christ willingly, the credit goes to Gods Power !

When Christ was crucified he drew everyone, but everyone has the ability to ignore or resist God’s grace. (1Tim. 2:3-4, Matt. 23:37).
 
No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ. That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill,


That is NOT WHAT THIS MEANS --FOLKS

Your Quote here is WRONG ----
No man can come here means no man has the ability to come to Christ.

This is what the Scripture says -----

John 6:44 (ESV)
44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

Greek word DRAW

Lexical Summary
helkó: To draw , lead ,​

to draw by inward power, lead, win over to myself the hearts of all, John 6:44;

I say ---------This is all about a Heart Change and if we will accept God's drawing to have our heart changed

No human can change their hardened heart to an acceptable heart ---only God can do that ---Folks


NOW WE HAVE FREE WILL TO ACCEPT THAT LEADING ---Drawing __OR__REFUSE IT ______


Many still refuse God's Drawing cause there is a lot of unsaved People living in this world ---so they freely choose to stay away from God ----and refuse His pulling on their hearts -----


This is saying that Sinners do not ever seek God ----cause sinners are away from God and don't want in their lives ----


Romans 3:11 AMP B
11
“There is none who understands,
There is none who seeks for God.


Their hearts are hardened toward God ----so God has to lead the Person to change their hardened heart to soft heart -so when they read the Gospel Christ's Saving Faith is inbirthed in them ----which bring the person to Salvation -------


I say ---------God is Drawing on Peoples hearts every minute of every Day to accept His drawing -----He wants all people saved ----- But the People are refusing His drawing ----

Ezeckiel 36:26

Amplified Bible
Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you, and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
 
If a man becomes self-aware that his heart is hardened against coming to God, and in spite of that hopes on the name of Jesus to be saved anyway, don't you think he'll still be saved?
What do you think this saying means; Luke 16:9—"I tell you, make for yourselves friends by means of unrighteous mammon, so that when you fail, they may receive you into the eternal tents."
 
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"That cancels out the myth that man has a freewill, "
"It also means "

No..both of these is how you personally interpreted it. God never said it.

When someone replied with scripture you said "Rabbit trail "

Then others.. praise GOD
 
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